surprise results

I bought these seeds as "giant japanese morning glorys" then I could see when they came up they weren`t really giant but slender vines and leaves growing 6-8 feet given support and flowers 3-4 inches. I saw one purple spoked flower and an abundance of light pink spoked flowers and collected all the seeds I could find.

This year I got out my saved seeds fully expecting light pink flowers from18 plants going and None of them are pink. They are dark blue,light blue,dark purple and light purple with five spoked flowers. Some given best growth condition have grown over 6 feet.

Here are some pictures. What are these?

Another:

Last but not least:

Mt. Fuji's?

They sure are gorgeous!!!!

Thanks, Now I need to plant seeds off these and see what happens. Where did the pink go? 90% of the flowers I got these seeds off of were light pink and only a few were light purple. I was disappointed with the lack of variety actually and then I save seeds and find quite a mix of four very beautiful colors.

I`m curious and I will label the vines and plant seeds from each color variety to see what colors come up next. I think testing the seeds helps be sure what to expect when you trade seeds as well.

I believe they are Mt Fugi and the leaves match the ones in plant files exept none of mine have variegation. I would love to share some of my pictures in plant files but really want the ID to be correct so I will ask on the forums for what kind some of my flowers are if I`m not certain.

I got a Chachamaru flower this morning but no time for a picture and I have many little patches planted I`m waiting for blooms. Some of these have the most beautiful interesting leaves and all have buds all over so I`m checking every morning early.

Morning glorys give me another reason to get out of bed in the morning and they are good company with breakfast and coffee. :)

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If these seed I would love to have a few to see what I get too! If you have any to spare! They are very beautiful!

I have some that are pregnant but will have to wait until the pods are ready. I want to grow more and in time by this fall I will have more seed. I will be sure to add what I get to my trade list!

I am interested in trading but need to get some things going.

Thanks!

That is interesting you didn't get any pinks! Very nice blues and purples however!

I had something weird happen with a perennial hollyhock, it was jet black the first year I planted it, then year 2 and beyond, it became pink. It's a nice pink but wondered how it could change colors like that. Maybe hollyhock can do that as does hydrangeas, based on soil pH?

Joseph

It sounds like you were growing a first generation hybrid. To get the kind of flower you were growing requires the crosspollinating of two different kinds of plants. Left to the bees you get something different.

My hollyhocks I grew a few years back went from double to semi double and singles and grew huge over 10 feet tall with tropical colors like hot pink,coral and canary yellow...way different from the ruffly cottage flower rose and burgundy blooms!Then I didn`t collect any more and we moved the dog over on that spot so that was the end of the tropical looking amazon hollyhocks.

As far as these Mt Fujis I`m seeing some of the vines have better flowers with more of a picot edge and some have some interesting flecking patterns so I`m going to do some selecting for my next crop of seeds maybe even try out hand pollinating and see if the color pink shows up again or if it got lost in the shuffle.

It will not be long and I`m going to be able to have a trade list. This year will be a good year I think.



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Oh yes,I have one more picture to add to my pot luck container of flowers. A cute little red star from this morning! This is such a little gem I love this kind.

If any more different pop up I`ll just keep going with this thread. :)

I wanted to include another of the first Mt. fuji flowers I posted about. This one has grown and developed more and it does have a nice shape around the edge and I did some reading and found out the elongated leaf shape is called a dragonfly shape. The one of the light blue posted above shows one of this kind of leaf.



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The results are coming in on generation three. The dark blue,lt blue and lavender are all breeding true. They are Exactly the same. I haven`t seen any pink ones yet.

I did some reading. Pink is recessive to blue. Seeds off pink will always flower pink unless they got pollinated with a blue flower. Blue flowers can hide recessive pink genes.

A couple of years ago I planted a similair purple one. The pic below is the volunteers last year... I wondered the opposite - why pink they were purple before...

I think what happened with me is there were more blue/purple flowers than I thought. Obviously, I did Not collect any pink pods (that were pure for pink)...or there Would have been pink flowers without a doubt. The only way I`ll see a pink flower from these is if one of the blues or purples is a carrier for pink. So far no pink but all the vines have not bloomed yet. I`ll post again if I get something different.

Forgive me if you already know this. I`m a newbie and unless the experts tell me I won`t know who they are. I`m a newbie learning as I go. Those purple flowers you grew carried for pink and it came out in the seeds. the pinks will always seed other pinks unless you cross pollinate with a blue flower. If the blue flower is pure then All the seedlings will be blue. If the blue flower carries for pink and is self pollinated then then the seeds will yeild 3/4 of the all the vines blues(of those(1/4 pure blues,1/2 blue carrying pink) and 1/4 of all the vines pink.

I bet you could use the pink flowers to test if one particular vine was pure for blue.

Cross pollinate the pink vine with a selected blue vine. If the blue vine is pure for blue all the seedings will be blue with hidden pink. If the blue vine carries pink then the vines will be 1/2 pink and 1/2 blue with hidden pink.

Then I guess you`d save all the selfed seeds on the vine being tested (hoping for the best) if you wanted for sure pure for blue seeds you would tie up the blooms and hand pollinate the flowers to self and tie them back up. Then when you grew out the test flowers of the pink crossed with the blue vine in question and all the flowers come up blue then it is very likely you got a pure for blue vine.



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