Debbie
Yes would love black prince- who could resist w/ that name. Your romas were good, I think romas have a different flavor not bad, just different. They aren't as flavorfull as table varieties but still good and have their place. I cut up a few in my vegetarian chille the other night and the night before had some in salad ( I generally don't use romas in salads, but they were fresh and home grown), they were fine- better than those in the store.
Anybody grow that pretty one that was on Parks Seeds catalogue? It was orange and green simillar to your zebra; have no idea how it tastes but it was pretty enough that I'd grow it for the looks at least once.
after the rain
OK a couple of hard rocks for you too. They would probably make it in a really, really big empty pot too. You know the one you can't decide what to plant in it? It'll take up the space until you decide.
Which one, Black Prince of Hard Rocks?
Hard Rock
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/118954/index.html
Black Prince is pretty compact though for an indeterminate. But not compact enough for a pot.
Deb
I don't know enough about tomatoes to fill a thimble, only that I love to eat them and have always been resistant to growing them because of the associated bugs....uggghhh! Determinate and indeterminate are really important terms, of that I know, but as to what it means to growing, have no idea.
I always buy some "patio" type for growing in a pot @ Lowes or HD- sometimes I get a few tomatoes, other times a few plus 2- but would like to try something more genuine- that's why I am anxious to try your zebra- any suggestions/help would be appreciated.
Thx
april, one last ? about your echies? are yours potted or planted inground?
I love roma tomatoes. I use nothing but romas for my salads. different strokes for different folks, huh?
Want some fall tomatoes Vossner while I'm "rooting' them? Hard Rock is really prolific. That one I didn't get around to yet. But I did get my rangoon creeper released from 'tomato bondage'.
Green Zebra gets big--I find less insect problems in the fall--just a race to get production before the days get too short and the wind starts whipping from the North. Which would be welcome this evening....
Deb, thanks, but no. I have more tomato plants/seeds than I can eat and neighbors start running now when they see me coming. I have reduced my veggie garden to almost nothing to give room to roses and bulbs, less work for me.
April, I also bought the pink pride of barbados seeds. Just now getting around to sowing one.
Voss
I wouldn't run! Mine are in the ground.
Let me know how the pink seeds work- I planted several and like I said one was completely yellow, nice, but yellow, 2 remaining haven't bloomed yet although all were planted last year around the same time. I still wonder how we can get the pink from seed since it's a hybrid, but what do I know? Will see what my last 2 do and let you know. I think the one in the photo has less of the light orange/yellow and more of the red than others I have had /known- I love it anyway, heck what's not to love w/ those colors?
oh man, I'm gonna be really dissapointed if it isn't pink. In fact, it is supposed to be a dwarf pink, got on ebay. I will cross my fingers.
Voss
I have to admit this is the 2nd time I have purchased- well maybe my daughter did the 1st time, and just now thinking that it wouldn't come true because it's hybrid- the 1st batch of seed didn't germinate and I believe my daughter had bought them from someone on Ebay- we just figured we'd screwed up but the seller contacted her and refunded money because they had found out the seed wasn't viable- not from us though. This seed I purchased from someone else- not on ebay, can't recall where and it germinated just fine even though the information suggested it would be slow to germ- not at all.
On another forum we were discussing a hybrid senna and someone who grows same one collects the seed and gets 50/50 - perhaps this is the same- I'd be annoyed if the seller had split them and I got the wrong 50 LOL. but oh well, will collect seed and see what happens. Also will cross my fingers for you and if it's pink I will be begging for seed!
April
I soak pride of Barbados seeds in as hot of water as I can handle for about 2 hours prior to planting....learned that trick from someone on the seed trading forum.
You can get hybrids from seed if the plant hybridizer knew what they were doing...think of all the hybrid zinnias and tomatoes, just to name a few that are hybrids you grow from seed. I got complete faith in you girls--they WILL be pink.
Debbie
I know what you are saying deb but some hybrids don't bloom true and I know I took all that science /genetic stuff in school but can't recall why some does and some doesn't- you know my 1st college major at ASU was Ag. then changed it to nutrition, then married, had a baby, moved and knew that I had to get a job to pay my bills so went into nursing, still had to take lost of science and genetics, just not plant genetics- should have stuck to my original plan!
Well, I still have complete faith in ya'll and your pink prides (which I never saw before).
I have never seen them in person but as a collector I feel obligated to have at least one of each!
That's me, plant collector--not a lick of garden design sense--but plant collector I am.
April--check this out:
http://www.soulofthegarden.com/dailymuse0606.html
Ever been up there? I hear they have 4 dates a year its open to the public...and just up the road in Hempstead.
I think I have decided I must paint my flower box on the back patio that color blue....
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That yellow Pride of Barbados with the long red stamins is likely a Desert Bird of Paradise. They grow wild in New Mexico and Arizona deserts. They are great for hummers.
trois
April-- they have pin cherries jubilee alamanda down at Cornelius for 7.99--about 2.5-3' high and in gallon pots--we must have missed them. Go to:
http://www.corneliusnurseries.com/
Click on Garden club--they will email you a $10 off $20 purchase coupon. I promptly went and spent mine. Got an echinacea Big Sky 'Sunrise' (big and looks really healthy--they had no sunsets), 2 Caladiums 'White Wing' and another one of those Plectranthus 'Mona Lavender' all in gallon pots for $14.00. The Caldiums and the Plectranthus I need for my back window box.
And the plants look good too.
Thanks for the link Deb! I had never heard of Peckerwood Gardens. We need to talk Dave into having the Roundup on the weekend of October 21st, since that is one of the dates that they are open.
The Ru is first weekend in Nov--otherwise would be too close to the Dallas RU.
I hadn't realized he had set it in stone yet. Oh well, just have to find time to get down there another time. :)
I don't think it is; but they wanted the 2 kinda far apart.
Deb that's what I paid when I got it at Buchannans- Gardino, on line has 3 gal pots for 25.00 which I 'd have been ok w/ but Andrea Gardino emailed me the shipping cost for this area and it would be an additional 25.00- that' not a good buy.
I have been to peckerwoood because immediately next door to it and open on the exact same dates each year is Yucca Do- ever been. I like them, but they don't give people in TX any break on shipping. They have unusual plants, some rare, almost all suited for TX- peckerwood is a walking tour and we chose not to go because they charge admission and we wanted to spend our money on plants. The guy who started Yucca Do worked for peckerwood so many of the plants are same/simillar. Frankly I have a hard time looking at someone w/ a straight face knowing they selected the name peckerwood- maybe it's just me.
Yes Trois you are right about the pride of barbados- I actually thought it was native or mexican, but it is gisellii (did I spell that right?) and the one that Buchanan's says is mexican or native (can't recall which they actually used) is the one that is all yellow- flower and stamens, and the petals do not have the nice little ruffle that the more common variety does. It's very plain. The nice thing about the yellow w/ red is that is smells nice and it is a prolific bloomer, even in pots! I have some seedlings if anyone is interested and could be talked into collecting some fresh seed w/ very little arm twisting.
I know--what's in a name..its not just you. I've been to yucca do--I just have never been into xeriscaping plants. But I'm slowly coming around to the idea--dragging hoses around the yard ain't much fun--don't even mention irrigation systems. That'll happen right after my patio gets a stone cover and I get a pergola overhead patio cover. And both of those things will probably happen sooner in my dreams. I'd settle for plywood cut for the windows--but that doesn't seem to be getting done either. I'm beginning not to let any of this bother me anymore.
Oh yeah don't let that kind of stuff bother you, really there are people out there w/o any plants, people who will go to sleep tonight w/o knowing the joys of weeding! LOL.
Some people are just not going to be pushed into doing things when you want them too either...speaking of weeds--I got those too. I grow a variety very well; nutgrass, quackgrass, bermuda grass, johnson grass....
Oh yes, I believe that I grow those as well- I am sure that I do it much better than you do! And don't you find it interesting that regardless of the severity of the drought or how many insects invade your yard, those weeds are never bothered! Where is the fairness in that?
My excuse for not finishing weeding/mulching the front tonight is it has to be watered--can't weed while watering can I?
Of course, I'm also cleaning the living room...haven't you noticed?
Yeah I am cleaning up the kitchen.
I still got about half the kitchen to go too--I have a short attention span...lol
I think that's because you are smarter than the average bear- I can't focus on one thing, it's just too boring for my mind!
This is a trait they haven't learned to appreciate at work--I hope they get over it this summer.
LOL well you have to admit that work in general gets in the way of important things, like planting...
speaking of bears--consider your arm twisted on those pride of barbados seeds.
Good deal- I haven't been letting them seed just because there are always so many of them. From my experience w/ seed that was over 4 yrs old, burried in a drawer, these suckers have 100% germ rate, and I soaked them in some water & Hydrogen Peroxide- just because they were old- in less than 24 hours in solution they had sprouted. All of the seedlings have been blooming like crazy, they were all planted last summer and most have been left in pots w/ questionable soil. Vry hardy and they do have a nice smell, one that I have is near my hose bib so in the evening if I am turning off or on hose I can't help but smell them, sweet but not sticky sweet, fresh very nice. The pods on this are fuzzy and the seed is identical in appearance to more common, though gorgeous, pride of barbados.
think you will like it.
I just soak them in nearly boiling water for about an hour....I'm not crazy about the plant but it makes a good plant to trade.
Yeah whatever! you know you want one
Wouldn't mind the solid pink--I've just got way too much yellow and red and orange back there.