Morning Glories 2005 #28

Then you have to include impulse purchasing on ebay. Oy!

After organizing the seeds I have received in trades, from eBay and Yoriko, I ended up with about 45 types of MG, mostly Japanese. Now I am trying to figure out how many trellises and tomato cages I can fit in my garden, my mother's garden and the neighbor's garden. Sure am glad I'm not addicted like some of you!

Here is a very interesting link about the use of ao for both blue and green in Japan. And also the difference between ao and midori.

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=2714785427875&lang=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE9

Susan

lincolnitess,...........guote: .Sure am glad I'm not addicted like some of you!......ROTFLMAO you are as bad as the rest of us lol...................(if not worse)
since you where the one that started everyone to even more addictions with your last buy *smiling big time*

Darell welcome in to our madness called the Morning Glory forum and all its beauties
Janett

lol, Joseph, you should become an expert on the subject!

LOLOLOL

I got so I wouldn't buy anything but Heavenly Blue. If I couldn't find Heavenly Blue, I wouldn't buy anything. It's on my list of seeds to buy every spring.

This one that you've posted is a beauty. I've googled it and I'm not able to find a source for the seeds. Oh well.

Thanks.

Bumping it up here - so we don't get lost in the traffic.
BESIDES IT IS ALMOST 2006!

Thought I'd post a couple of photos of my Ipomoea ochracea that I 'almost' got blooms from this month. Guess the cold weather stopped it in its tracks. These photos were taken after our first freeze when I had to move my container into my outside building.

This is a late blooming perennial and now at least I know I am capable of getting blooms in my zone.

HEAR THAT CAT!

Next year I plan to move it to a much larger container and put it into more direct sun and see what my vines will do for me then, knowing this species LOVES THE HEAT!

Emma

Closer photo of the bud

And while we are on the 'Yellows',
here is what I found when I was digging up some of the rooted runners from my
Yellow Chinese Morning Glory
Unknown Species

Tuberous roots/rhizomes????

They were growing horizontally and shallow - no more than 1" under the soil.

I still haven't dug up one of the mature plants to over-winter and plan to do that this weekend. Can't wait to see how large that one will be.

I have four vines growing and Ron has suggested that I leave the other three in the ground. One I will not mulch at all, and the other two I will mulch heavily to see if either or all will survive my mild winter.

Wouldn't that be fabulous if they do and we can see some blooms next year!

Perry,
Did your vines survive that I sent you?
Just wondering how well they transplant when young without the roots as we now know they form?

Emma

Here are the blooms from the site in China where my seeds came from of the Chinese Yellow MG to show what they look like.
Very Pretty!
Wonder how large the blooms are?

One more photo of the Chinese Yellow MG

So nice to hear from you again, your bud looks promissing. The yellow flower looks beautiful.
Janett

Hey Everyone! Long time, no see!

Let me start by saying that those "Summer Skies" that are for sale on eBay originally came from me, and I told the person that I didn't think they were SS, given the descriptions that I'd read and from what Ron had told me. BUT, one must market what one wants to sell, so I guess after consulting some "experts", he decided that was good enough for him, and is using that name anyway. I prefer to think of them as "Baby Blue". I plan on trying to grow them again this spring and figure out the secret to getting mine to set seed earlier than just right before frost here. This will make the second season that I've lost I. tricolor seeds to the cold before they had a chance to fully mature. This year it was 'Wedding Bells'. :-(

I also had a vine produce some Hige/Sunrise Serenade flowers, bought from a certain person on eBay as 'Gypsy's Bride'. I seedling turned into 'The Vine From Hell That Would Not Bloom'. All summer I kept threatening to cut it off the fence, and I either 1.) didn't get to it as soon as I wanted to, or 2.) my husband would talk me out of it since it was so lush. It had been making buds all summer long, but they never would grow, just turn yellow and fall off. After the weather cooled down, the buds started maturing, and WOW! it turned into a beautiful vine! The forming buds looked more like little pinkish-green roses, and there were hundreds of them! They would develop into heavily feathered flowers, but I found that little seed was set due to the stamens being converted to petals. There were a few that were actually singles, and I did get some seed from it before frost hit. I think this is going to be one I'll have to plant in afternoon shade if I want to get better results from it, since obviously it prefers cooler weather. I think this may also be the issue with my I. tricolors.

Soooo, that being said, does anyone have some tradeable seeds for Gyspy's Bride?

Over and out,

Stacey

Stacey =
I NEEDED MY MORNING LAUGH....
Thank You For That!

All you have said is way too much fun!
However, You have me beat....
I also grew Gypsy's Bride and ALL I got was lush, huge leaves.
Not even a bud, much less a bloom.
And,
GREAT observation about the I. tricolors, because I was wondering the same thing. If it was just 'me', or the cool weather. I got very few seeds off of mine too. Flying Saucers only a few pods. Heavenly Blue 'one pod'. Also very few pods of Wedding Bells. At least the Wedding Bells is giving me a few more pods because I had it planted in a container and drug it into my outside building. Zero seeds from my Pearly Gates that FINALLY started blooming in November.
Wonder what the secret was on Heavenly Blues blooming in NW Houston, Zone 9, that I noticed 'covering' a fence!
Just loaded with blooms and seeds were forming. Hmmmmmm

A-hah ! ! !
All you said about 'Summer Skies' got pretty deep on my boots here in Texas.
Sort of makes one want to go put that boot somewhere in NC, huh!.....lol
And, now that you mention it, I do remember your photos from last year of the two different colors of your Heavenly Blues - and never even thought any more about it except that I remember how pretty the lighter one was.
Sooooo, 'Baby Blue' IT IS! Or, at least let us know what you will name yours!

Hi Janett,
No Blooms for me this year on the I. ochracea.
My first bud that I got
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1895659
did not open.
I am posting photo of what it did -
it never did open up - just shriveled and drooped down.
Same, exact thing on the buds posted last.

Emma

According to Ron's information, I probably should call them 'Clarke's Original Heavenly Blue' (vs. the 'Improved Extra-Early Strain'). Personally, I like them both, mainly because the colors are vivid and unusual.

When I grew HB back in 2000, I grew them on a fence where they got afternoon sun, and I think it was too hot, because I didn't get any seed from them at all. I did grow some in 1994 when we were living in a garage apartment, and the were going up between the building and the neighbor's shed where they were shaded from the afternoon sun. Those were the healthiest, biggest flowers I ever got, and I had lots of seed, but I didn't collect them. I never put 2 and 2 together before this fall. DUH!

I got some wild seed from a trader in Guatemala this past fall, and I'm planning on growing it this spring. It has more of a light violet-blue color to it, probably closer to what the typical natural color for the species is. Ron has told me that he's seen it in various shades, even one with a shimmer, so I can't wait to see how they look!

Emma, the Chinese Yellow vines you sent were potted and put inside before the freeze, but to date have shown no activity. Will have to wait until Spring comes and see if they will come out then.

HI Perry,
If they don't I know where you can get more - that is assuming mine will over-winter ok.

Thanks,
Emma

That Chinese thing went all over the place here too. After I draped it over the the fence back and forth about 5 times, I gave up and let it go. I had runners easily 20 ft.+, taking off amid the watermelons and green beans. Not the first flower, but boy was it enjoying itself! Right before the first frost hit I cut it back to the fence, and you should've seen the pile of runners I collected! Some of them had rooted in, but all were still on top of the soil. They had to be, or they wouldn't have gotten sun, otherwise. There is one joint (or was, I haven't checked to see if it froze) that is sitting on the top rail that looked like it was cristate (mutated to a flat,fan-like formation) that had no less than 8-10 vine buds on it! I think someone should name the thing "Chinese Dragon": it's hairy, quilted like it has scales, sinks claws into the dirt, and has an unbelievable 'wingspan', not to mention the maple-looking bat wing leaves, which are tinged red. Supposedly it has yellow flames, but no one has seen those yet! I hope the flower is worth all the work it's giving us! Oh, did I mention it thrives on heat??

It appears that some have the red pigmented leaves/stems and some do not...I prefer the red colored version...I'd bet the red colored version has a darker yelow flower too...we'll see...

gotta have one that like heat
cause boy do i have that in summer here

Emma,
I just posted some picture of i. ochracea that just started blooming for me in a separate thread.
Jan...

SB/L update:
for those whoasked about the SB/L (skyblue/lavender) JMG seeds, I'm up in Rhode Island writing this and Am pleased to say that I have enough seeds of this and everything else for tons of trades (particularly Ipomoea purpurea ( I have aomurasakizyouhatensibori, Star of Yelta "Mayzie", and a pale blue one.)

Budgielover,
awesome Ipomoea ochracea. I just started one from seed here :)

Emma,
poor ochracea. :( I had my indoor "heian no freaky" vine do this to me a few times.


-Zem

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!

Feliz Año Nuevo

Emma

Happy New Year to you Emma and to Everyone else on DG!

Hello Everybody,

I thought I'd add a few general links to some things that some might find interesting...


The small yellow Ipomoea species being called "keniaki" in Japan
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/ryu/aruba-garden/asagao/keniaki2.jpg
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/ryu/aruba-garden/asagao/keniaki1.jpg
http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/ipomoea/yellow-doc/Ipomoea-yellow.jpg

'gypsy's bride ' displayed by a Japanese gardener
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/ryu/aruba-garden/asagao/higezaki.htm

Ipomoea batatas pollen in fossilized dung...this species has been around for awhile...
http://memorias.ioc.fiocruz.br/98sup/5p02.html

which came first that 'dung' or this map
http://www.vegefund.com/shouhishsayasai/shouhisha-zukan/sweetpotato/swetpotato9e.GIF


Growing a sweet potato for fun page...one of the best photo series that I've seen on this activity
http://photoalbum.datafox.org/gallery/batata

Sweet potatoes and coleus nice combo
http://www.ag.auburn.edu/hort/landscape/images/congar18.jpg
The ornamental types were discovered in the Philippines in the early 1980's

On The Hawaiian Island of Ni'ihau the Sweet Potato plant is called by the name of 'Uala,which is also the plant form of the mischievous pig-god, Kamapua'a.
Medicinally, 'uala was used to induce vomiting and to cure asthma or sleeplessness
The storage roots, leaves and shoots are all edible vegetables.The leaves are most commonly eaten in SE Asia and in many of the Pacific Islands as a raw sald green or as a stir fried vegetable.Where the leaves of Sweet Potato are consumed,it is also considered to be a natural aid to insomnia as a mild soporific,as are the leaves and shoots of Ipomoea aquatica.
While the ornamental types of Ipomoea batatas can produce a tuberous root that is edible, it is not highly rated, and rarely eaten.
The storage root is not actually a tuber even though it looks like one, since it develops from root tissue, rather than stem tissue as true tubers do.Root tubers are formed by secondary thickening in adventitious roots Some botanists describe it as a tuberous root
High Nitrogen favors lush leaf growth and high potash produces healthy disease resistant roots.
Soil rot is favored as soil pH rises above 5.2.
Ipomoea batatas can produce seeds,but since most plants are self-infertlie clones,seeds are usually not produced.
Ipomoea batatas will not usually 'come true' from seeds,so plants that are produced from seeds offer gardeners an oppurtunity to experiment in producing plants that show interesting and perhaps different novel features.
These are things that inquiring minds want to know...


moonflower opening in real time...it's B&W,but,maybe someone here can post an updated color series
http://www.moonlightsys.com/themoon/moonpop3.mpg

Cemolobus ipomoea the Morning Glory Bee a rare species of Bee that has been found only on Ipomoea pandurata and some other Convolvulaceae species

Determining the relative abundance of a bee species, and especially whether it is truly rare, requires considerable study
Cemolobus ipomoea Rb. was found only on Ipomoea pandurata by Robertson, on which he listed it as abundant; he speculated that it was an oligolege. We collected this bee only on that plant. Any sampling effort ignoring this plant would most likely miss this bee. .Today, this species is generally considered rare (Michener et al. 1994:156).

the Morning Glory Bee Cemolobus ipomoea information was extracted from the following sources
http://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/savanna/plants/ws_potato.htm
http://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol5/iss1/art9/
http://www.culturaapicola.com.ar/apuntes/02_htm/art1/main.html
http://www.earthscape.org/r2/coneco/vol05/issue_01/con_eco_05_01_05.html


butterfly or a plant
http://thierry.jouet.free.fr/images/CLERODENDRUM.jpg

giant pink rabbit in Italy...and some of you thought you had 'free time' on your hands(!)...wooo(!)...
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1541732.html


TTY,...
Ron


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Wow Ron, thanks :)

Didn't expect to crawl out of bed to info like that this AM.

Love the bunny btw

Janis

Supposed to "make you feel 'small'", huh? Am taking this bunny right over to the Healthy Living forum ... nice to put on one's frig door ROFL Imagine how many MGs this bunny could support :)

Ron, Gardenwife thoughtcha might like to enjoy your pink bunny from another angle:

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=z014ba4so5o9?method=4&dsname=Wikipedia%20Images&dekey=Hase%20Colletto%20Fava.jpg&sbid=lc03a&linktext=

Now, any suggestions as to what Italian aria or opera our bunny might be singing? Maybe he's intoning a medieval chant from earlier days in Rome??? Raindrops Falling on My Ears?

More like 'zoning out' to the Cuckoo Waltz or Mendelssohn's Spring Song dreaming of catching butterflies...maybe rabbits go in for sweet potatos...what would his great grandfathers Caligula be thinkin' of...nah,just 'Harvey' making sure we can all know some sort of a 'familiar' nature spirit guide and that they're not just 'visible' to Jimmy Stewart....

Me,I'm waiting for the Calystegia here to pop up it's first exploring tendrils...that's how I know when it is safe to keep the MG's outside...

TTY,...


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Am not up to producing more than an appreciative bovine moo for such a lovely bucolic sentiment - too many buckets of earth, stone and water today. The things we do for the sake of our imaginations!

Ron,

Calystegia is perennial in Netcong, NJ? Cool trick, btw, on sensing environment!

Joseph

Yep,the Calystegia is certainly perennial in Netcong,NJ...The days have been sunny,but at night cold fronts can move in really fast and the temperature can just drop(!)... I have a patch of some wickedly invasive legume and I've been watching the Calystegia and the legume for the past few years battle it out for the territory...the legume has been hanging tough(!),but I think the Calystegia is steadily gaining on it...The Calystegia doesn't seem to like mint though...I think there is something in the mint and it's root secretions that is inhibitory to the Calystegia...I'm still observing the interaction...

TTY,...

Ooooooo cool interaction on the competition between mint and Calystegia. Interesting ecological tool, chemical warfare between plant species.

Oh dear. Ron and Gerris2, regarding your April 19, 2006 11:23 pm and Apr 20, 2006 5:45 am posts respectively on "chemical warfare" between Calystegia and mint, do you suppose that could be why the Ipomoea leptophylla I grew from a seed from Ron expired among a peppermint patch? I had thought it would be pretty coming up through the mint, but... So, Ron how did your Calystegia do among your mint this past summer?