Coffee and...Part 29...! :-D

Session #29 (Started September 6, 2005)
Anyone lurking in this thread is cordially invited to join us. Our previous "invitation" got a few lurkers to come on inside...why not *you*?

Here's our previous session...
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/540986/

~julie~

Hi everyone! I'm still involved with watching the updates on the situation in the Gulf Coast regions...but I'm getting myself back into the reality of what needs to be done here around my own place. This morning I ordered a few new bulbs to plant so I have something to look forward to early next spring.

I'm trying to get myself into the mood for making various plant cuttings, gathering seeds, getting my plant stands cleaned off from last years fiasco and preparing to get all those pots and cell-packs washed out, organized and stored before the snow flies. (That's a real weird thought, considering we're supposed to have temps in the mid 80's here today!)

Do any of you guys grow dahlias? I'm looking for someone interested in swapping named Daylilies for various larger Dahlias. If you're interested let me know...or if you have a suggestion as to the best forum to post in...I'd be happy to know that, too.

Better get my behind in gear!

~julie~

Julie,

I think you should contact Daisyruffles. She has a lot of Dahlias and I believe she's looking to increase her DL collection.

Molly
:^)))

Thanks Molly. I really appreciate the info.

~julie~

Julie - I have dahlias, but I am sooo bad at keeping them named. So I doubt if you'd want any of mine!! I just dig them up in the fall and replant them in the spring. I am always surprised at what blossms where!!

I still havent' called the dentist (I know- shame on me) But DH came home from work and said - 'man, do I feel awful - my teeth hurt, fact hurts and tooth that he had filled months ago is throbbing!) Hey, I thought, that is what is wrong with me~~

I'm watching Oprah right now - good show on the "katrina nightmare"

SARV = WHY didn't you call the dentist????? BAD! Or for goodness sakes go to another one.....they all handle these kinds of emergencies - or should. You're suffering for nothing!

I'm gonna have to whoop up on you!!!!

M. ;-)

Yes Marcia I agree. Now everybody, all together now

'''''''''''''BAD SARV, CALL THE DENTIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''''''''''''''''''

SARV!!! You're beginning to act like my DH...complain about being in pain and then DO *nothing* to get it fixed! Honestly! Some people's kids. ;-) (Don't just sit there! Or we'll *ALL* be on your butt!)

~julie~
Oh...PS...LOL Sarv, you sound like I used to be with all my plants. Now I'm better and my garden looks like a miniature graveyard in the winter with all those little markers. hehehe

Sarv, can I bribe you with a mystery plant gift? It's ruffled, fragrant, long blooming and very cold hardy. I have 6 pieces. If you will see a dentist within the next 24 hours, I will send one each to you and 5 other GOBs. For every day beyond the next 24 hours that you don't go to see a dentist, one less piece will be sent to a deserving GOB. Soooo, if you don't see a dentist, then you will be depriving all these other GOBs of this wonderful plant.

To think, that in order to meet another Big Baby of my personal magnitude, that I would find my soul mate in a group of Grand Old Broads! Sarv, if you and I lived closer together, sooner or later, we would probably pass each other on the road tied to the roofs of our respective family cars, driven by our DHs to a tooth appointment.

Pleeeeze?

rotflol

:^))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

HI..Glad to be back..have been "otherwise engaged" for a bit-means have so many things up in the air that I am dropping stuff all over the place--literally--you should see the place--NOT.
Love the bribe, bluespiral. You all should see my dentist..He will give me nitrous-they use cookie dough and chocolate mint flavored stuff to clean my teath and I talk chocolate with the tech and flowers with the tech/office manager (dentist's wife) I have no problem going there..now the eye doc..different issue..office chairs make the torture chamber proud.!!
Have missed checking in and will do so more regularly., even if it eats into my mess cleaning time.

Karen...I'm ROTFLMAO at that one! Imagine! Sarv...you're keeping THING GOB from getting something nice from Karen. GET WITH IT, ALREADY! :-D

Marcia G!! It's SO good to see you back amongst us! I was worried that you'd fallen into Lake Mendota and couldn't get out. LOL (can you get ME an appointment with *your* dentist? It takes 6+ months to get into one here in this area...and that means *even* with an "emergency"!)

~julie~

Marcia, "mess cleaning time"?? Freshly bathed by the vet where they had roosted for 1 1/2 years and 3 months respectively, St. Ray and JT have just moved in and are sporting cobwebs on their manicured whiskers. I can't tell ya how great it is to hear the sound of purring and scampering paws around here again. In 2 hours, those two have made themselves quite at home.

What do I do instead of vacuum? One thing, Marcia, is working on getting together those images of morning glory Japanese woodcuts and paintings from other cultures and times. Hope to figure out the DG journal thingy so I can post them there - have many other flowers to do this with. I got into this when my back kept me out of the garden for a couple of years and injuries to my arms kept me off the piano.

Well, St. Ray's freshly manicured tail just sprouted another cobweb.

hellooo, Sarv?

One thing that helps is that by the most auspicious accident, we have wound up with a dentist that specializes in pediatric medicine. He has quite a bag of magic tricks and jokes - very good at distracting Big Babies.

Sarv, you don't get any extra jewels in your crown by enduring needless pain!! I know what you mean DH usually comes down with the same thing I have complained about for days. Go figure. Power of suggestion? Now would you deprive any GOB's blue spiral's offer of a mystery plant?

Blue Spiral, don't worry about cobwebs, on cat's tails, just let them do the dusting for you!! Since I have a cat (part persian) and a dog in the house, when I run my Rainbow I have enough hair to make another animal, if I could just get the bones and muscles. If anybody comes up with a plan whereby I could "make pets" I will share the profit from the sales.

I am still working on my mom's neglected flower bed. Did the round up thing last week and tilled it tonight. With any luck, I will be planting it tomorrow. I took up all the plants I planned to save, and am dividing hostas to add. Anything will be better than the grass and weeds that were there.

Julie I grow Dahlias, but unfortunately all my bulbs came as gifts from people who didn't care about names. So therefore, I don't have white gravestones in that area of the garden!!

Well as I type, I am yawning, so that means that I sould head to the bedroom. The chiropractor has helped with the pain in the neck and arm, so therefore I am sleeping better. He has suggested that I sleep on my back with a pillow under my knees for support. Since this is a new position for me, I find it hard to make it through the night in this position. But when I turn to my former position, (right side), arm soon lets me know that I need to turn over.

Night All, I made zuchinni bread tonight, so help yourselves.

I don't need a guilt trip!!!!!!! Tempting me with flowers is unfair......sobb sobbb

I want to give you my meds chart ( I have to do this so I remember when I took things LOL)
Tues.
9:30am 2 ibupro
3:45pm 1 sinus tab
9:00pm 1 sinus tab

Wed.
7am 1 sinus tab

I am not in pain now, just a weird sensation (like a sinus infection) I know, I know, I should get ahold of the dentist, but I won't unless I am in real unbearable pain.

Today I have to be at youngest DS house at 9am - to wait until they get carpet installed. I am going to lay around and read and snooze. But since DIL is a terrible housekeeper, I may just clean some. She laughs about it and says she just loves it when I come over!!

Man, I Just heard on the news that they are going to force (handcuff if needed)people to get them to leave NO. Sounds like it will be an ugly scene.

defoe - I used to think chiro's were quacks, but I had a disk buldging on a nerve and I was in agony. After trying two weeks of the meds stuff, I frantically called a chiro. He is my hero - I went for several weeks (actually months) but ohhhh the relief... We have friends that routinely take their whole family for adjustments - every month! They must have good insurance LOL

Blue - if my pain returns with a vengence, you have my VOW that I wil call the dentist, but as long as it is managealble with light meds, I will continue with them. I am a TOTAL wussie and only want MYYYY dentist...he knows I need extra oxygen etc so as not to freak out. I tried that laughing gas ONCE and ended up screaming...not a pleasant sound!!

Sarv - did you ever consider that the sinus infection could be from your tooth? I have an aunt that was hospitalized with a raging blood infection because she waited to have her tooth fixed. Be careful.......the pain could be subsiding because it's killed the tooth root.

And - we've already determined you're a "total wussie", LOL! Just be careful.

LOL, Sarv, to have pains is not a very amusing matter but the way you write about it does make me smile just can't help it, so sorry you have to go through all that and I do admire the the way you keep on going the way you do.
Maria

Hello again everybody. Anybody want some peach cobbler with a crunchy oatmeal/brown sugar topping. Wonderful warmed up just a little with vanilla ice cream on it.

I've been gone over the weekend, left Friday morning and got home yesterday. We (2 horses and me) went to a 3 day endurance ride. I rode Can Do, my mare, the first day and Patch the 2nd day. The saddle I use on both of them made their backs sore so now I need to get a different saddle. It's always something. The third day I volunteered to help with the running of the ride, it takes a lot of people to put these things together and make them run smoothly. Usually I am riding so I take my turn whenever I get a chance. We were in the Owyhee desert and mountains of south western Idaho. One day we climbed to 6500 feet and had a view into Oregon, Idaho and Nevada. There was a plume of smoke we could see and later we found out that it was a forest fire near the home of some of the ride volunteers who had gone home quickly to remove valuable papers, computer, etc, wet down everything and move their animals out to safer places. The next day they were back at the ride doing their jobs since the fire had been stopped right across the road from their place!

Today I am catching up with laundry and watering. Time to change the sprinkler in the yard and relocate a couple of pipes that carry water from the spring overflow to the vegie garden rows.

Back from DS"s house - their new carpeting is all installed. All the banging and pounding scared their two cats! For the longest time I couldn't find them , then I remembered DS telling me that they had torn the underside of their mattress out , sure enough, that's where they were!! I tempted them out with a little taste of cat nip. Poor pussies...

I am not going to be speaking of my tooth anymore. But I will tell you when I do see the dentist!! Yup, I am a total, 100% wussie, but do have a very high pain tolerance. I once had to have my cervic stretched (long story), and the doc kept inserting bigger and bigger cones. He kept asking if I was ok - yup I kept responding. When the proceedure was all over he said he had never had a patient go thru that without being in severe pain and asking for some type of pain relief. I am not sure it it is a blessing or a curse to have the high pain tolerance!!

I do remember my DDad suffering terribly with cancer, but whenever anyone asked how he was doing '- he always replied ' oh , just fine' We so admired him for not burdening others with his suffering. He never complained about a thing!! Well, I guess I don't take after him, because I AM a complainer!!

Turned the sprinklers back on - even tho I sprinkled yesterday, things are still crisp. And our poor lawn - totally brown. This has happened before and I know it will come back, but man does it look awful.

Pass that peach cobbler...I have a peck of peaches on the counter, but if I make a dessert, it will all end up on my arse...and I certainly don't need that!!

ps DIL's house was totally picked up, so I sat and read cookbooks and read for 4.5 hrs - nice little vacation for me!

OK Sarv, that's it. Since you won't respond to bribes, we will have to resort to threats. How about if none of us post anything until YOU GO TO THE DENTIST!! You are asking for a world of trouble if you don't take care of that offending tooth right now, and more trouble down the line if the infection spreads, which I suspect it has already done!! Dope yourself up, and GO. Tolerance of pain is not a virtue, it allows problems to progress until they become huge!! Now, are you listening? Don't make me come over there!!

On the lighter side, I have gone quite mad....cleaned the living room from top to bottom, cleaned under the refrigerator and freezer (the cat toy storage area...where all the twist ties and odd bits end up after a vigorous game of floor hockey, swapped locations for a couple of furniture items and cleaned the dust bunnies that were nesting underneath. Since I can't possibly be pregnant it must be the harbinger of an early winter. Let's see if I can find a wooly worm and see how thick it's coat is.

Our back lawn looks like the desert too, in spite of watering almost every day. It takes all day to do the back, the flower beds are another day, and the front....well you know what the front looks like!! We don't have the newspaper etc. down yet, it's too darn hot to work out there!

Hooray, the car hauler is gone back to it's keeper, it's been in the driveway for the better part of two weeks for road trips, and it's really hard to back out and get past that monster. Patted it good bye and told it I would miss it. Not.

Guys are actually here putting the siding on the garage!! Finally. Just a little late, supposed to be done in July. We had to wait because they didn't have a match to our house so we special ordered and I don't think they gave us what we ordered. Not my problem. What do you think? I think it's lighter and not as blue as the gray on the house.

Enough of my whining..... SARV CALL YOUR DENTIST OR GET A NEW ONE!!





This message was edited Sep 7, 2005 4:04 PM

If we don't posst until Sarv gets her butt in gear then I won't be able to tell you I got my perm done this afternoon. :-( ) I'm happy with it, so far. But then *anything* would be better than what I was living with. Good ole DH...It was like that commercial on TV..."Honey, does this dress make me look fat?" "You betcha." (He's working at his model building table...I'm standing on the stairs knowing full well he couldn't SEE me. LOL)

I spent the morning trying to work out some "Dahlias for Daylilies" trades...thanks to Molly, I think me and the Doc's wife are going to be planting dahlias in the spring. (Thanks, Molly! That was a great lead!)

After I got my list of stuff together and spent a long while reading threads in the Dahlia forum, I *had* to get outside and get the watering done. Somewhere just before I was supposed to be in the beautician's chair I turned around to check out another flower bed...and just tossed the hose. There was no way I was going to get it ALL done. :-( Poor plants will die if we don't get rain tonight. ~sigh~

Oh Well...

Now SARV *please* just it fixed!

I think I'm ready for some of those treats now...and maybe a second helping after I'm finished with the lasagna cooking in the oven as I type. (I don't normally do seconds...but I'll make an exception this time. I *love* zucchini bread...and simply cannot pass up peach cobbler.

Oh...I was going to tell you guys with the dahlias...if you have some pics of what you have, I might be able to get y'all some DLs too. How about it? :-)

~julie~

meezer - no, it isn't a perfect match - however, since the overall tone is the same, it gives a perspective effect that works for me.

sarv - I have had MANY sinus infections that caused toothaches. When I cleared the sinus problem - it cleared the tooth problem. Yes, I went to my dentist, and he agreed that it wasn't my teeth that were the problem. Moral of this tidbit is that I DID get it checked out!!!!!! GO SEE SOMEONE!!!!!

I cannot tell you all how wonderful it is to be here and feel like there is a normal world still out there after all the horror of the last weeks. (-not humor "at your expense" sarv, just "being with you" in your pain). I feel like there is a future. During the last three weeks, the last week in particular, I wondered sometimes.

DGers will SURVIVE!!!!

God bless
ginni

I DO make time to read the updates here but feel very much MIA as I devote my time to Katrina Victims.

MaryE, the cobbler sounds wonderful!

Ginni! It's SOOOOOOOOOOOO *good* to see you *here*!! I read about your communication in the Katrina Check In thread...and was more than just relieved. ALL my friends down there have been in my prayers, my thoughts (and my nightmares!) (((( ~ HUGS ~ ))))

Hi Darius! We know where you are...and don't feel badly about not posting here. We'll still be here when you need a cuppa and a snack.

~julie~

'Lo evr'body, glad that's cyber peach cobbler so I can have a bowl of it too. Is there ice cream in the freezer Julie? oooh good. perfect.:))

Still busy here on the remodel front. Son cutting crown molding for the kitchen today. He's good at that too, for somebody who's never done much of it before, he's downright artistic.

With one eye on the weather station watching Ophelia, I'm catching up with y'all. Mary, moving a hose from the spring overflow makes me smile, I've a friend who has that blessed water just that way.

ginni, good to have you here. It feels like a safe place compared to the real world these days. and I agree - sinus infection and toothache often go hand in hand. and no way to tell which is feeding the other without GOING to the DENTIST. LOL

(((hugs))) to everybody, gotta go make me a real life deli rare roast beef sandwich. ~Blooms

Hello GOBS, that peach cobbler sounds really good, and ice cream to go with it. Thanks.

Today has been a really busy one. I posted last week about reclaiming a flower bed at my DM's. The first step was "round up", then yesterday tilling, and today raking and cleaning up dead grass and weeds. Raking again to smooth the bed. Then I divided some hostas I have and took some there, and she had lirope and sedum. Divided that and replanted. Also got different variety of hosta from DMIL. Then the clean up. All in all I worked about 5 hours, and I still have to get the mulch and get it down. She is so pleased with it that she asked me to make 2 more beds in the front yard where she will be able to see and enjoy them. So I am one tired puppy tonight.

Got the local papers today and many articles about our area receiving Katrina victims and telling their ordeals. Have many volunteers that have gone to help. I admire all who have special skills and are willing to travel and help out.

Have an appointment tomorrow to have my hair cut. Of course there is a Home Depot and Lowes in that town, so will probably cruise by there to see what they have!!

I am lobbying for 3 more flower beds at my house,and as usual DH is stubbornly putting me off.This is in an area that needs his tractor and plows before I can take my little tiller in to do the working and leveling the ground. I don't plan to do anything with it until next spring, but wanted the ground broken now to over winter. I figure by starting now, I may have convinced him to do this by spring. I live in a rural area and in the spring there are plenty of tractors with plows that travel our road. If necessary I will sit by the side of the road and flag down those people and offer to pay them to do this for me. Then endure the hissy fit he has over that!! LOL. DGD was here last weekend, and she asked DH if she could do something, and he sort of grumbled about it. The rest of the weekend she called him GRUMPA!! He didn't get it for awhile, but then told her he knew what she was doing.

Our big fish fry is Saturday night, so will spend the day Friday getting all utensils and supplies together. We are expecting about 90 people. I have hired 2 people to come in to help set up tables and to do last minute prep, and then to help clean up. Enjoy it ever so much, but it is a lot of work.

Well have to get to bed as my aching body is crying out for rest. Have a good night, and will see you in the morning.

Did you know that 4 o'clocks have a lovely fragrance?

I gathered a very few seeds before the hurricane of the white ones. Been out looking daily for more seeds. Went out there today, leaned over and pulled a couple weeds, and wow, something smelled so sweet. I never thought it would be the 4 o'clocks. Well I stuck my nose into those flowers and by george, it was them!!!

They are blooming every day around 4?....okay late afternoon. Looking for seeds and expect will have more in the next month.

I remember you Julie, M5 and Sarv.

Nite now, work tomorrow....

Molly
:^)))

Would love peach cobbler-won't put the # on that the doc wants me to take off!
Trying to focus on getting projects done-got my napping project done this evening after dinner-heading off to bed--I have priorities you know!
Hugs to all

I wouldn't mind a peach cobbler with a little cream for breakfast...just like a bowl of cereal only better! I don't even feel like cooking food, let alone baking! It was hot here yesterday too but supposed to cool off today. We got a small sprinkle of rain with a lot of thunder. I would have preferred the opposite. No such luck.

DH has been home all week, so it's been breakfast, lunch and dinner for the most part. You'd think he might offer to go out at least once. I think when he retires, I'm going to look for a sit-down job just to get away from the kitchen!!

DS and DIL went to look at another house last night but I haven't heard a word about it, so I'm thinking they were disappointed with the neighborhood or that something was wrong with the house. The pictures looked nice.......we checked out one this week that's about 3 miles from us, but it's way over their budget. The house is a gem though, on just over an acre of land, very well kept up, it's been on the market for at least 4 months because one offer fell through.
Along those lines, they will also have to keep cutting the lawn, etc. because the house is standing empty, and before long there will be snow to clear.....then if they lower the price again ,...maybe....LOL

Thanks for remembering the four o'clocks Molly, looking forward to them! I used to go out with a dust pan and shake seeds off my red and yellow ones ....back at our previous house. A few finally came up for me this year, but not white ones!! I had two french lavenders planted along the north side of the house, which have self-seeded and spread along the walkway, and now have become five. I swear, if not for the volunteer flowers this year our flower beds would be pathetic. Next year the volunteer snaps army will be doing battle for territory with the volunteer lavenders!

Enjoy the day!

Meezer, I love all that greenery up your steps,. I think many of us had problems with most flowers this year, simply not enough rain and watering seems not to be the same.
Have to put in some 4 o'clocks for mext year, I love flowers with a sweet scent.. We have another beautiful day, very cool in the AM but it will get warmer later up into the 70's
Maria

Blooms...those group hugs are *the* best! And for some reason it really felt good this morning!

Molly...I'm looking forward to those seeds, too! (You wouldn't want some Nicotiana seeds, would you. They're the sylvestris (TALL - up to 4 1/2 feet - and gorgeous fragrance!) I have TONS of them! Also have lots of Malva Zebrina seeds...supposed to be perennials, but bloomed this first season for me (YAY!!!).

I've got too many things going at once right now...I think I need to go water my coleus plants...IF they're still there. LOL (No! It hasn't rained!)

~julie
P.S. HELLO to everyone!!

Good morning. Granola anyone?

Darius, my condolences on the passing of your mother. Keeping busy helping hurricane victims will help you through this hard time. What plans have you for moving or staying in your rented quarters? Has your landlord come through with a different heating system?

Dcat, maybe if you told your DH you planned to sit out by the road and hijack a farmer and tractor next spring..... he might see that you ARE determined to do this flower bed project and decide that he should do it himself to avoid the embarrassment.

A couple of years ago I bought what I thought was a lavender, well it turned out to be Russian sage, a rather big plant that reseeded in my lasagna bed and now I have lots of them. My neighbor wants some of them for a dry spot along her fence next to the road that is hard to keep watered, so we will be digging them up as soon as the days get cooler. I have some volunteer wild rose bushes she wants too. She is in a rented place and can't put much money into it even if she wanted to, so I offer her all my excess this and that and she takes a lot of them home.

The elderberries are starting to look ripe. I just need to get them picked before the birds decide to do it.

Have a great day everyone. Count your blessings.

Well back from getting my hair cut. Stopped at Lowes and they had some pretty fall plants, and the worst looking mums you ever saw. I have a friend who raises mums for sale, so I will visit her soon.

Mary E, my husband does not know the word embarrased!!. He would just think he had gotten out of a job, and would complain that it was in the wrong place!!

My full day at my DMs yesterday has left all my muscles and joints aching. Couldn't sleep last night because of the aches. I got up to take some ibuprophen, and didn't have any in the house. So finished up the night on the couch, as I wanted to read. Turned on the tv, it usually puts me right out. I finally dozed some, but feel very tired today.

Well, i am going to prep food for supper tonight. Then maybe a nice nap.zzzzzzzzzz

Hi GOBs,
Its good to see you all back here again. It has been a very depressing time for all of us, but letting ourselves get low isn't going to help anyone else.
Monday I dragged my bum away from Katrina on the TV, and DG, and got out in the dirt. The weeds needed me!! I stayed out there till I started to feel rough - the temp here was high 90s. Did the same on Tuesday. Yesterday I couldn't move my left shoulder and moving my right arm made the left shoulder hurt like >>!!!! So I guess I over did it :>)
I couldn't even type yesterday, as for fastening upper body garments- forget it. Its much easier today, though still sore, but at least I can move, and type. Still can't hit all the right keys but then some things never change!!
Sarv GET TO THE DENTIST!!! My DIL has a tooth problem - her gum is all swollen and she can't eat hard stuff - she is being stubborn too. I sympathise, I'm a first class WOOS too, but it won't get better till you get and deal with it. So DO IT you hear now.

Love and hugs (((((( y'all))))
Carol

Hey Sarv, Have you had enough ! Are you going to the Dentist ? Better do it or I'll send those Viking marauders to yank it out for you. Had a molar once, with a pocket twixt it and a neighbor. Always sore, dentist finally said it had to go. When it came out there was the cutest big sac of abscess gunk you could imagine. Antibiotics didn't do much. Sure felt better when that was out. But now that MY tooth doesn't hurt I'd sure like a piece of that peach cobbler.

Ewwww...Robert...must you get SO graphic? LOL

~julie~

Sorry Julie, I guess the moral of the story, if there is one, is that abscesses and other infections can remain hidden and create havoc in the body. Speaking of creating havoc, the Eastern Washington peaches are coming on the market. I haven't even made the apple pie (or crisp) and here it is time for more peach stuff. What's a poor body to do ? On top of that I ate all the Biscotti. Woe is me, putting on weight to hibernate through the long winter is really tough.

I know I only lurk around here and probably don't have scolding rights, but I am tired of all this nonsense with SARV48.

The saddest wedding I ever attended was a dear friend that was married while in his hospital bed. He had an infection of the pericardial sac around his heart that was caused by an infected tooth. He was dead three days later.

This is NOT all that unusual. If you have any heart problems any reputable dentist will give you antibiotics before you have work done. I have a friend that has to take them before she has her teeth cleaned!

I too have a high pain thresh hold, but I am not stupid enough to think it is any kind of deterrent to disease. I know my turn will come to die, but I don't want to die of something that I could have done something about.

I apologize if I have offended anyone by being outspoken, but I DON'T apologize for caring enough to speak.
Pati

Yay, Pati!!!!

Ooooh OUCH. I just busted my middle toenail stubbing my sock footed self. Ouch - I think the whole darn nail is gonna come off. Oh, well, it's an excuse to sit down here for a while. I took my sandals off cause I stayed out digging weed grasses while it started to rain.

It starts out raining drops ten inches apart, and some days that is all we get. This turned into an nice tenth of an inch over about 20 minutes and I got pretty wet before I decided it 'meant' it. LOL the desert dweller never believes it's going to rain. Did get a large portion of that patch dug up and disposed of tho. It will lQQk a lot nicer out there when I finish.

defoe, aint' it strange how we think we can do a whole garden and not have our muscles holler on us? Usta could do that, howcum I can't anymore. Well even in the best of times one-sided work like weeding would always cramp up the whole arm some days.

Pati, all advice welcome here. Whether or not it gets taken is on an individual basis. Just like life. ;-)) yu yourself should be in your barka with ?ice? on your knee... not sure you still need ice at this point.

Ouch, now my elbow [the other point that hit on the way down] is hollering owie too. Darn. Well, I'll be back -- as they say. ~Blooms