Morning Glorys 2005 #12

Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

jmg 2

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number 3

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JMG 4

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Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

JMG 5

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JMG 6

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Heavenly Blue (like the angle on this one?? LOL)

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Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

another

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Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

couple of flying saucers, these just keep getting bigger across they are so neat!!

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Willoughby, OH(Zone 5a)

Emma,Your blue is very much like the flower we have been referring to as 'Akathoukinoumi',(as it was sold to us from e-bay) or as you wrote more correctly-Akathuki No Umi....same thing,word just squished together.
BUT..one of my daughter's friends who took Japanese, stopped by yesterday and I was showing him the names of Japanese MGs and he told me that there was NO 'th' in Japanese.I checked Yuriko's website and found no 'th' in any name.Interestingly enough,Heian No Akatsuki looks like what many of us have been calling 'Heian Akathuki'. But following this line of reasoning and exchanging the 'th' for 'ts' gives us ..'Akatsuki No Umi' which we all no is a dark blue purple with white throat.
So we are possibly left with another Morning Glory with no name.
Are you following this?
Here is a link to Yuriko's site,and a pic of my 'Akathouki No Umi'
http://lionnet.fc2web.com/JMG/MGsell1.html

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Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

tiny tiny little Shibouri

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Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Emma - The Toukan and the Yosoii would be interesting to see right next to each other in the same picture...one of thses days we should line up all of the different pink ones and do some side by sides to see what the differences are...
That unusual Koukan bloom is very unusual because not only is it producing a lighter color,but seems to have the lighter color over a wider area of the flower than when the Koukan blooms are the usual color...most times a dilution will cover less area than the darker color that it is derived from...but,obviously there are exceptions...That lighter bloom reminds me of an oversized purpurea...are the sepals on that vine shorter than on most of your other nils...

I like the reflective particles...just think they look nice...actually in the torrid zone(s),where different 'wild' species that are subjected to alot(!) of direct sunlight,the reflective particles help to prevent the bloom from being fried in the sun,thereby assisting the bloom to lose less moisture and stay open longer...form following function...


Joseph - Glad you got the article on the thrips...looking forward to your thoughts on the matter...

Janis - That Blue one of yours just keeps on producing different patterns...you and Emma need to cross that one with the blue henka type she started with and we'll never see the end of what can come out of that (!) combo(!)...
Are the leaves on that Blue one you have got the single smaller upper lobes or the double smaller upper lobes that kind of look like MG cotyledons...My Royal Robes have the double upper small lobes...

Akathuki...is that what you get when you try to say Akatsuki with your tongue kept sticking out in between your teeth...

TTY'aLL

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Gail - no need to exchange the 'th' for 'ts'...just the 's' for the 'h' will do...

Willoughby, OH(Zone 5a)

Well,actually in Japanese syllabary it's "tsu".But it STILL means that our light blue Mg has no proper name,now,because it is NOT our well recognized Akatsuki No Umi.

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

The 'tsu' is part of the Japanese kana translation into the way it's spelled in Romanji

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Willoughby, OH(Zone 5a)

En Garde,Ron. Did you know that other languages that use syllabaric writing include Native American languages such as Cherokee?

I'm starting to giggle

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Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

All the more reason for me to move to TX Ron :) LOL I'm moving in to Emma's Dining room. Not sure yet what I'm doing with DH and the kids, have to take my vines and seeds with me LOLOL

You mentioned possible thrips on my flowers earlier, not sure, I wondered too when I saw that picture and your posts about them I know we have little ants all over them. I'm definately gonna have to do some reading and learning and get a magnifying glass.
I'm not really sure what you are asking me about the leaves. I did post pics of the leaves back on the other thread
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1689831
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1689832
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1689836

Some of them are weird shaped... I dunno.

I need to maske lunch for the kids bbl. Here is another of the Flying Saucer mutants from this AM, forgot to post it earlier

Janis

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San Antonio, TX(Zone 9a)

EmmaGrace, I'll take it, I'll take it, I'll take it. LOL

Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

Here are both together

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Gail, you are cracking me up!

Dundee, OH(Zone 5b)

torn from last nights rain, but here is Fujishibori from the latest co-op I was in.

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Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

OMG I want them all.

When I started buying MG's this spring, I had no idea there were so

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Janis - Yes,that is what I was asking you about the leaves,but the first link you posted shows the leaves having single upper lobes,and the second linked picture shows them having the double upper lobes...is that plant continually displaying both types of leaves ot has it settled in one or the other type on the newer foliage

Gail - I don't know what the En Gaurd or the giggling is all about or even the relevance(!) of mentioning syllabic languages in American Indians ...I post a chart that I thought was relevant(!) to the Japanese we are trying to figure out and you mention some relation to Cherokee...I'll concern myself with Cherokee when I get 'Cherokee' MG's,and am trying to figure out Morning Glory names written in Cherokee...
The people and nations that developed the most technologically,were the ones who not only wrote everything down precisely,but had a very precise way of writing their language...and although there are many aspects of the American Indians way of life that I admire...their lack of having a precise written language is considered to be one of the foremost reasons,by military analysts, that they failed to develop technologically and consequently lost their land and have had their culture almost totally destroyed...by people who did have a very precise way of keeping(on) track...


Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

I'll go out in a bit and look Ron. I have a houseful of kids right now :((

Janis

Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

I have been gone all morning and haven't even read what's going on today -
EXCEPT that I noticed the word 'Cherokee'.

I am part 'Cherokee' Indian *_*
from the 'Real' Cherokee Indians from NC.

Also part Irish [Red hair and all],
does that make me a half-breed....lol

Had to throw that in

Edited
forgot to say that the Cherokee Indians from NC is in Cherokee County.....
I presently live in Cherokee County, Texas





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Dundee, OH(Zone 5b)

EMMA You are a hoot!!!!!!!!!!!

Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

OMG Emma. I am part Seminole (my grandfather is buried in a Seminole burial ground in FL) and part irish LOL

Janis

Willoughby, OH(Zone 5a)

Well,then,you guys should be able to speak Japanese!

Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

rofl yea ok :P

Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

Hilarious!

Japanese, Cherokee, it's all Greek to me. LMBOOOOO

Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

ROFL Joseph :)

I lost a package of seeds I got yesterday :( Not mg's but dang :((

Janis

Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

Laurrie,
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1703703
This is AWESOME.
Looks like more of the 'Pink' color variation,
which I've been getting in different patterns from Solid to Frosty to Streaks
all in different shades of Pink.
Here is one of the 'Mauve Frost' blooms to compare
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1688821

Janis,
You are STILL making me laugh -
Seriously - Come on!
I'll clean out my seed room just for you.
BTW, Beautiful Blooms you posted today.
This one is amazing
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1703805
And this one as well - Gorgeous Color in this one too
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1703807

Gail,
OMG!
Then maybe it is the correct name?
'Akathoukinoumi'
is what was on the packet, but dummy me thought it was
'Akathouki no umi'
with the letters run together. duh!
So - that is why I didn't think it was the correct bloom
because the 'Akathouki no umi' is darker.
This IS the way you spell this one isn't it?
Joseph?
Ok, am I confused here or are these two DIFFERENT JMG's?????

...and to go further -
with your comment:
"checked Yuriko's website and found no 'th' in any name.Interestingly enough,Heian No Akatsuki looks like what many of us have been calling 'Heian Akathuki'."
Funny thing is that I'm still trying to get all of the names straight as I'm growing these out,
or seeing blooms from others, and I've noticed these two different spellings,
wondering if it was only a 'typo',
AND, have made myself a major big note to check further into this.
So, Thanks for this info.

...and ANOTHER POINT
'But following this line of reasoning and exchanging the 'th' for 'ts' gives us ..'Akatsuki No Umi' which we all no is a dark blue purple with white throat'
Is another thing that I've wondered about, knowing that 'Umi' means 'The Sea' - which to me describes 'BLUE',
and couldn't understand why a purple/plum bloom would be called 'Akatsuki No Umi' ! ! !

And, Yes, "I'm following this", because I have had these thoughts.
Hmmmmm
Japanese, very interesting !

dang! gotta go run an errand and haven't read the rest of this thread yet.

Willoughby, OH(Zone 5a)

Ok,Emma,if you notice,'Akatsuki no Umi' means 'the sea at dawn' when of course it would appear dark blue or purply blue,in the low grayish light of dawn.
What I was trying to say was I think you were CORRECT in separating 'Akathoukinoumi' but that that 'Akathouki' isn't in the Japanese language.(I don't think) so I think it's a madeup name for our lighter blue flower.

Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

A-hah!!
Gail, now that makes sense.

Willoughby, OH(Zone 5a)

Oh lord,I hope so.

Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

Emma where are you?LOL

I didn't go out and bag any of the mg's today... I need to, got like a dozen buds that I can see, and God only knows how many hidden. I made the drastic error of taking an 8YO, a 6YO and a 3 YO school shopping this afternoon :((
What a headache. LOL Got the girls some really cute stuff and stayed under budget :)

I will look through and find Ron's post on keeping them from cross pollinating and see what I can do :)

Hugs,
Janis

Dillonvale, OH(Zone 6a)

Ok. LOL I am gonna show my total newnes to gardening in this question. Can someone direct me to a site opr draw me a picture of what the different parts inside the flower (an MG obviously) are? I have beem looking and I can find definationsa, but I need a picture (I am blushing so big right now you have no idea)

Thanks in advance

Janis
*who is going to watch TV and hide for a while*

Willoughby, OH(Zone 5a)

Huge Akatsuki No Murasaki today

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Dundee, OH(Zone 5b)

LOL My Murasaki today and Golgi, didn't you want a side view?

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Dundee, OH(Zone 5b)

Murasaki frontal view

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