I'm a bubbler, he's a bubbler, wouldn't you like to be...

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

You're right Gita, but when I really like a particular brug, and something really awful happens, I feel badly, because often, the cause could have been prevented, if I had only known. And, I'm not sure the ones I really want can be purchased, they are scarce...like the beauties Monika crosses and grows...

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Sherry,

In almost 20 years of working in Greenhouses, for Growers, and in 2 BIG reatail stores, ("Franks" and "HD"), I have NEVER even seen a Brug for sale here!! Some people go, "Oh, Yeah!" when you say "Angel Trumpet", but a "Brugmansia"--NO! They have NO clue! I did not know either until I started "messing around" in Daves. The rest is history--as they say.

I agree that they must be hard to find, at least here on the East Coast. I have seen a couple of Daturas for sale, but that is about it.

I have NEVER been in contact with Monica, even though I have read all her Posts and think she is awsome! I would not dream of ever owning anything she has hybridized! After this year, though, if the majority of my Brugs are PINK, I may want some other colors. I'll be

That means, of course, that some of the ones I have will be up for grabs. I have NO space to speak of to house or plant any more than the 6 Brugs I have now!!! It was a "stretch" to find a spot for these as it is! I have a pretty shady yard. SO! Be forwarned!!!!------

*****If you live in the immediate Baltimore area, most of my "MAMA" plants will be up for grabs! I have NO place in my basement for more than, maybe, 2 Brugs to winter over!!! I have not yet decided which 2 I will choose....I have yet to see what color blooms the "Species" or the "ForeverMorr" has. I know the rest by now.
I plan to keep one cutting of each for next year. The rest will be given away to friends here--In the BIG pots they are now in my beds--(HUH???? You have a WHAT???)--or will have to be chucked. I hope not!!! Someone must have space for a 8'-10' Brug around here!!! If you do--send me a D-Mail!

Either way, I will let you all know when the time comes. I may advertise in out local "Pennysaver"----maybe.....

Like--$25--You dig--You haul! Gita

Zion, IL(Zone 5a)

Depending on what it is... 8 -10 people would probably be most happy with a 12" a piece to root, start and grow their own monster next year.

I appreciate ya'll letting me just put my 2cents out there. Just a different perspective.
Boy I sure agree with checking around if you can. As long as I can just get the input an move on. Then distill it all down to what I think is the answer and try it.

Winter is coming. You may have a little time for reading. I still like book about Sam Walton. I like and try to pursue one of his approaches. Don't want to know what you're doing wrong... I want to know what you're doing right.

Horsewoman - you like salmon? Fall season starts next month. Surely you've done a little crabbing down there in North Kakalake. If you want to slip over to the coast and get a bucket of blue crab I'd send you a box of fresh salmon. :)
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SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

What are those babies and how do you prepare them?? One time we came home from a trip and found a huge red snapper, size of a big turkey, in our fridge, had been there 24 hours, so we had to cook it, we threw it in the biggest oven, with lemon, parsley, maybe garlic, and it was the best fish I've ever eaten. Next day, my Golden had what was left and from there forward, for the next 13 years, he hit a tight sit right under that oven, every single time baked fish was on the menu...just in case you wanted to know...

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Those are gorgeous Blaine. Did you catch them on flies? What was the pattern? You really must come to the west coast to visit that relative you have that sent the pictures. I hve tried the blue crabs, oysters, clams and shrimp of the east coast and other than the shrimp, the rest don't hold a candle to the West coast. LOL

But to catch something like those 2 fish on flies would be a dream.

Jeanette

Zion, IL(Zone 5a)

Sherry - 2 larger ones are Chinook (King) salmon and the smaller one is a Coho salmon. Cook 'em any way you want. Baked, steamed, fried, deep fried, blackened. However you like to eat your fish. :) Red Snapper? Oh yeah. See I grew up just freshwater ponds. I got spoiled from 20 years in the Navy on seafood. The size and variety!! When I was down in Corpus Christi TX I brought home a LOT of speckled trout. Like to had a heart attack when I caught the DW culling the catch and tossing the smaller ones to a pair of pit bulls I had. The old fishbone stuck in the throat thing. Nope, she'd been doing this for over a year.

Jeanette - Most I catch are caught on spoons, late in the season I'll start using spawn because the steehead show up then. The salmon come into shore to spawn in the fall and spring so I can catch them from piers and jettys. So no fly action here but at least I go as light as possible on the tackle. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz---zzzzz---zzzz

Aberdeen, NC

Blaine, That sounds good to me!! I lived in AK for a while and got spoiled on some of the West Coast seafood. Seeing salmon spawning in the rivers is a sight to see!! The best was getting the Alaskan King crab right off the boat.
I have done some crabbing, but was not to successful. Most of the crabs I got, I had to throw back...to small.
I like she crab soup and the soft shell crabs which this part of the country is known for ;) I am about 2 1/2 hrs. from the coast so don't get a chance to enjoy the salt very much.
Karen

Zion, IL(Zone 5a)

What? I drove 4 hours just to drop off a brug. You want to swap houses? I'd be over to Wilmington or Moorhead city a lot. Well... with gas sneaking up on $3 per gal maybe not. Oh yes I would. Motorcycle will do just fine. All you need is a couple of turkey necks, some string and a gunny sack will do for crabbing.

(Linda) Winfield, KS(Zone 6a)

I just purchased a Tropical Sunset off EBay. It arrived bare rooted. It had been in soil. When I got it I washed off the roots real good and put it in a container with a bubbler. Will it survive in the container with the bubbler or should I go ahead and plant it in soil?

I did put some drops of superthrive in the water with it. Was that a mistake? Or should I add h202 to the water. The problem is after I first got it (Thursday) I put it in spring water with the superthrive and placed it in a dark place and the wilted leaves perked up and looked real good. Then today the leaves are starting to wilt. I moved it to the window and placed the bubbler in it. The window is a south window but there isn't any sun today, very cloudy.

I could use some help from the experienced bubblers out there.

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Harlem, GA(Zone 8a)

NICE sized plants/cuttings 2puggie, I am no expert so I'll leave that to Scooterbug or somebody else, but I think they look GREAT! Keep us posted of how they do :-))) I love your set up, it's so neat and tidy. :-)

Hugs
Julie

(Linda) Winfield, KS(Zone 6a)

Thank you Julie.

Linda

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

Linda, is there a reason you didn't want to just repot it in a pot and let it grow in that all winter? You can keep them in very small pots. They stop growing more or less until you pot them up.

(Linda) Winfield, KS(Zone 6a)

Kell: I was kinda wanting to try keeping them in water with a bubbler all winter, in hopes to help eliminate having gnats and maybe cutting down on the spider mites. That is the only reason for it.

Linda

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Kell,

Are you suggesting that she use them as house plants all winter? Or, keep them somewhere with lights on them? She is almost as low a zone as I am. Just curious.

Jeanette

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

Linda, those mosquito dunk crumbles are supposed to work for gnats, one application is supposed to last a year...

(Linda) Winfield, KS(Zone 6a)

Sherry where do you get the mosquito dunk crumbles. I had heard from another gardener that she uses mosquito dunks. I had them so bad last year that they would land on my computer screen. I got scanmask but by the time I started using it I think they had taken over my room. Of course I only had about 30 plants in my room, all under lights.

But I haven't had any problem with them outside or even with spider mites. I guess I have been lucky.

Linda

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

Gee, do bubblers stop mites? LOL. I wish. I have one in a bubbler right now with mites. I have been to lazy to spray. I must spray them all now for I have procratinated so long.

I always have small ones of my best brugs on my windowsills all winter. I just do not pot them up bigger till they go outside in spring so they stay small. One I did pot up bigger a few times over winter, it was my RK when I first got it. I thought it was all that and heaven too. It grew pretty good for being inside.

The only one that hated inside was my Maya. It dropped all its leaves in protest till I moved it back out. It preferred the cold, wet winter.

(Linda) Winfield, KS(Zone 6a)

No I don't know if being in the water would stop the mites. But I thought mites didn't like the water. But a girl can have a wishful dream can't she.

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

Oh yes, LOL. I wish there was a way to stop mites. They are really the only thing that makes my life miserable with brugs!!

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

Linda, I got my original mosquito dunk crumbles online, google it, but I got them at Lowes and Walmart, earlier this season, but those stores, in my area, did not replenish them. Lowes has the Bayer Mosquito Granules, and I wonder if they will work on gnats too?? Of course the Mosquito dunk crumbles does not, to my knowledge, mention gnats either. I wish some that might know would tell us. Lowes/Walmart both have the Bayer...but I think each store is different...

(Linda) Winfield, KS(Zone 6a)

I have a small plastic tub going with bottled spring water. I now have 9 Brugs and 3 Hibiscus cutting starting. I have about 1 1/2 gal. of water in it. Should I put some h202 - 3% in it, and how much should I put in. I did have them in 4 glass containers, and I did notice that the water was turning colors. We are going to be gone about 5 days in Sept. and I wanted them in a bigger container so they wouldn't run out of water. With the water turning green I was wondering if the h202 would help with that problem.
I am sending a picture of my set up.

Linda

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Clinton, CT(Zone 6b)

Hi, Linda - I've now added H202 to mine (thanks to Sherrylike for getting me started on that). I bought the 35% food grade and I added about a 1/2 dropper full of the straight 35% to the water - there is probably about a 1/2 gallon of water in there. I worried it would be too much but it's been 5 days and the water is crystal clear with no problems at all. I am seriously looking into the benefits of this magical elixer (h202) for a miriad of applications both gardening and otherwise. Here's a link to a guy that uses the stuff on himself and at the bottom of this article is some VERY interesting stuff about how he uses it in his garden:

http://www.landrights.com/Hydrogen_Peroxide.htm

Diane Krny

(Linda) Winfield, KS(Zone 6a)

Wow Diane what a neat link. I am like you I think I may get me a nasal spray pump and give it a try.

I did put about a 1/4 cup of 3% in my water. I think I will go to a beauty warehouse and get me some of the 35% or the 40%. My friend is a license hair dresser. So she should be able to get it without any problem.

Linda

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

You guys please be careful. That stuff is pretty powerful. Sherry knows how to use it and has been using it for a long time. I use it to get rid of the gnats on my brugs by spraying the top of the soil. But I only use the 3%. I also spritzed my brugs for the spider mites. I don't know if it helped but it made me feel better. LOL

Jeanette

Clinton, CT(Zone 6b)

Good advise, Jeanette. I'm real careful as I do realize the 35% food grade is very potent stuff. I only bought it that way for it's purity and have now diluted some of it with a gallon of Distilled water down to 3% for general use. I will mix up a smaller batch of 8% for use on plants as that seems to be the magic strength recommended on a few sights I've read. Also..anyone else getting the 35% -- do be extremely careful handling it..even a few stray drops when transferring it will damage just about any household surface quickly in it's undiluted strength so clean it up very quickly and avoid getting it on your skin. I bought a very small bottle that holds about 2 oz of the undiluted with an eye dropper and I keep that near my basement garden center for diluting there for use. The gallon of 3% solution I keep upstairs in a dark linen closet for household use and the 35% solution I keep secured in the back of my freezer where it will keep without degrading at all for over a year. Even at room temp it will only degrade 1% per year.

diane

RICHMOND, VA(Zone 7b)

Always fascinating reading!

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

In order to appreciate the strength of 35% hydrogen peroxide, get a piece of dark blue or black (cotton -any dark color) material, and drop a single drop of 35% on it and it will bleach out white in a flash. Do the same with 1% or 3% and there will be no bleaching. Last Feb, after I broke my ankle, the water evaporated in one of my bubblers and I had a bunch of rootings covered in slime/algae, etc, and I washed them gently, then put them in a 35% hydrogen peroxide and water solution and they turned white, like they are supposed to look and rooted up quickly when they were put in soil...I also use 35% for washing clothes, bedding, etc, instead of bleach, and in addition to cleaning and bleaching the items, the peroxide prolongs the clothing and does not rot like bleach often does...

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

It is interesting stuff but you almost have to be a chemist to use it. LOL, Jeanette

(Linda) Winfield, KS(Zone 6a)

Can anyone tell what is the difference between the 35% Food Grade hydrogen peroxide and the 30% or 40% hydrogen peroxide (clear developer) that is used by hair dressers for bleaching out hair?

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

I don't know what the cost is of the peroxide hairdressers use, but the 35% food grade is expensive. The major reason I use the 35% is that I use it for my dogs, for cleaning purposes, and in my kitchen for washing vegetables, fruit, etc. So the human grade is what I buy. I don't know a thing about the product hairdressers use, and I hope someone will come along and tell us...

(Linda) Winfield, KS(Zone 6a)

I was at Sallys warehouse yesterday and they had it in a 16 fl.oz. for a little over $2.00. Thats why I was asking. It's ingredients is : water (aqua), hydrogen Peroxide, phosphoric Acid. In the 3% it's ingredients are: water, hydrogen peroxide.

(Linda) Winfield, KS(Zone 6a)

Sherry I found this you can get a qt. for around $16. and Shipping of $8.75. Where did you get yours?



http://www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm?OVRAW=%20difference%20between%20clear%20developer%20and%2035%25%20Food%20Grade%20hydrogen%20peroxide&OVKEY=35%20food%20grade%20hydrogen%20peroxide&OVMTC=advanced

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

That is where I bought mine Linda, I bought a gallon, I think, and I consider it well worth the investment, I use it with my dogs, for cleaning grooming tools, towels, table covers, whelping pads, etc, and for washing vegetables, fruit, lots of other stuff. Linda, my brugs are in the ground and I don't use it on them. I understand it is good for brugs in pots. I do not think, if I had not wanted it for my dogs that I would have purchased it just for the brugs. But, since I did, I do think it is good for the bubbler cuttings and freshens the water. However, I could not see a big difference because I used food quality H202...

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