Huge problem water logged flowerbed is rotting all plants.

Royston, GA(Zone 7b)

Help.

I am pretty sure you have seen my flowerbed before. It used to have iris's in it. I ended up having to move ALL of them because of the water problem. Here I am again, looking at having to move everything due to the water problem.

I have dusty millers, marigolds, saliva, daylilies, dwarf lily of the nile, and a chinese snowball bush planted here. Take a look at the pictures. Half of my saliva is dead, my marigolds are suffering and my dusty millers are weeping. Their roots are rotting and we continuously have rain every night here it seems. So they don't have time to dry out.

Please help. Should I move them? I have other places to put them thats for sure. We can't fix this flowerbed right now due to a money situation. And I hate to lose all those flowers because I can't afford to fix the flowerbed itself.

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Royston, GA(Zone 7b)

Here is another view

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Royston, GA(Zone 7b)

And yet another look at this poor bed.

Please advise.

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Lilburn, GA(Zone 7b)

magwar....I can't believe all the rain we're getting here in atlanta...it sounds like much the same where you are in GA also. I would go ahead and move your lovely plants. The only thing that comes to mind is "bog garden". I know nothing about this area of gardening....but it might be a new opportunity for you!

Royston, GA(Zone 7b)

I can't either, this is unreal. Normally during this time we are experienceing drought!! lol. I might just do that "bog garden" but the minute a drought comes our way finally, it will be a goner too!

Hubby says that once I get them moved hes just going to grade it out and resow grass there. He says its been too much trouble for me to get anything to grow. But heck the grass grows in the water you can see it by the pictures lol.

Hillsboro, OH(Zone 6a)

If you can't raise them or improve the drainage, I would move those plants, which most can tolerate being dry, and replace them with water lovers and leave the bed as it is. Is there not any way to maybe dig a trench to divert the water? That would be the quickest and easiest solution, aside from the back strain. :( What is causing the run off? There are lots of plants that love water (think bog garden) if you really want to keep a garden there. You could always fill it up with elephant ears, siberian iris, juncus, lots of things. Sorry about the water problem.

Jackson, SC(Zone 8a)

its ridicoulous. I am so sick of rain!!! its raining agian right now.

my plants are soggy. i am thinking next dry spot to start moving into garage the ones in pots that is.

this is so dang crazy. you are not the only one thats losing stuff. my flowers are looking terrible and my irises oh the white flys i have never seen such.

swimming in jackson Marie

Royston, GA(Zone 7b)

I moved everything today except the Chinese snowball bush. I am having to let my daylilies sit out because they were sitting in water litteraly. (you could easily pull up the entire plant roots and all just by shoving your hand in the soil.) I will be getting them back into the ground after the water in the soil dries out just a little bit in the morning.

I hate to hear that imzadi that you are having the same problems. I wish it would lighten up on the rain. I know my garden is just water logged and I don't want to lose those crops. =( I am used to dry weather around here. Rivers are overflowing, lakes are high and the humidity is horrible!!

Bad seed: My mother has some siberan iris's that she is going to give me next year, I am planning on putting them in the backyard where it washes so much. I think this flowerbed is just a goner lol. I have other room to place things though!!

Hillsboro, OH(Zone 6a)

I can send you some sibs too, if you need them. :) I'm sorry to hear you are having such problems. I suddenly developed an area like that and lost half my front gardens when my neighbors got the bright idea to dig a veggie garden in the rain run off ditch. When you live on a hill with run off ditches between each property and someone diverts the water....my side and front looked just like yours! Anything I do on that side of the house, I refer to as guerilla gardening. They are real weiners. I end up with unexpected prunings, fungal and mold diseases as well as round up disease. LOL

Royston, GA(Zone 7b)

Badseed: I might just take you up on that offer lol. I know the feeling on the ditches. Our back yard is a valley so we catch everything from the nieghbors

Salem, MA

Maybe this will be of use :-)

http://www.raingardens.org/Index.php

Royston, GA(Zone 7b)

Thank you cultivateweeds =) That was an informative link!! I appreciate it.

Brantford, ON(Zone 5a)

Magwar:
Your garden bed from what I can see looked exactly like mine before I too the bull by the horns and solved the problem.

Two years ago I bought half and acre of what I thought was a beautiful property. It was all grass, I dug beds in the spring, about April, and was most proud. Then the rains arrived. I had one soggy mass of knee deep muck.

My solution.

I made raised beds using deck boards, and filled with soil and got some garden last year eventually, when things dried out. This was temporary.

During the summer I dug about 300 feet of trench in various directions, directing the terminus to the nature slope which was towards the street to storm sewers. The trenches were 1 foot deep and a shovel width wide. Gravel about one-quarter inch diameter was placed in the bottom of the trench for about 3 inches. On top of the gravel I place flexible weeping plastic pipe, three inches in diameter. The trench was filled almost to the top with gravel covering the weeping tile. Sod was placed on top of the trench after putting a little soil on top of the trench. The trench is now almost invisible. This year I added another 100 feet along one fence to drain my raised bed there.

I held my breath waitng for the final test. Two day ago the test arrived in the form of about 10 inches of rain in one hour. The trenches performed perfectly. The run- off disappeared within about an hour and the garden if perfect as far as mositure is concerned.

I did all the work by hand. It took me about 10 days work over a period of time. The gravel I hauled in my van in 20 litre pails, ten at a time, since each pail weighed 85 pounds. Thirty eight 20 litre pails are about equal to a cubic yard. Since then I made a wooden box with a removal board end for hauling compost and gravel. It fits into the van and is easy to shovel into a wheelbarrow for offloading.
The box is in two section high since I can haul a half a yard of compost, since it doesn't weigh too much for the van. For gravel I can only take a quarter of a yard at a time-about 850 pounds.

The biggest problem was getting rid of the dirt removed from the trench. I bought a hand sod removal tool (this kick device can be rented) which, facilitates sod removal, then wheel-barrelled the dirt, and placed it along one side of my back fence. This I am in the process of making into flower beds.

I have now removed almost all the bed board and put nice trenches in place, still slightly raised, but more attractive. There is more to accomplish, which I will do over time.

It sound like a lot of work, but if the garden is important, the work if worth the effort. It sure gets one in good physical condition. In fact his year I find it difficult to find something physical to do.

If you are interested, I can dig up the pictures of the work and will post them for your perusal. This work could be contracted out at great expense, but then it is not your creation.

In England I read that some people dig several large holes about 5 foot square and about three feet deep and fill it with gravel, covered with grass. This they use for a sump into which the drainage pipes terminate. This is similiar to a septic tank tile bed.

Another observation. The trenches are a good drainage sump simply by being,since they take a lot of water before the depth of water is such that flow starts.

The solution is two-fold raised beds, and drainage. Often raised bed simply are not sufficient.

Durgan1


Santa Fe, TX(Zone 9b)

I had the same problem with my orange trees, so I dug a hole about 2 feet wide and two feet deep in the center of the problem area. I installed an inexpensive sump pump with a float switch. It has been working for 4 years now, no problem.

Brantford, ON(Zone 5a)

I thought of that, but 20 sump pumps are expensive, so I chose the other method. Avoiding the wiring while digging would also be a problem in my case. Inspection and trenching for the electrical made the sump pump idea out of the running. I am glad it worked for you though.
Durgan.

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