Gardening with Texas Native plants @ Wildflowers. Part 3.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Bettydee, those Herbetia blooms sure are pretty, you are lucky to have such a wonderful variety of plants growing wild.
The Passion flower that comes up in my yard here and there, usually has no roots, but I find that if I take the new shoot and pot it for two or three weeks, it will develop plenty of roots, and then I set the plant in the place I wanted and it does fine.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Htop, the plant you are describing might be Redbud, (Menodora heterophylla) I found it in
Wildflowers of Texas page 209. I seems to fit your description about the bud being a different color than the flower.

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

Frostweed, thanks. It might be it, but I don't think so. The bloom petals are shaped just like a buttercup and overlap like a buttercup. They are not separated nor elongated on the ends. I don't believe that the leaves are lobed either, but I will have to take a second look. I will try to take a photo if I have time to drive back out there today.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

htop, take a look at page 213 of Wildflowers of Texas. The Missouri Primrose has blooms up to 4: in diameter. Its flowers fade to a reddish color. We haven't had much rain this month and the leaves may be slightly dehydrated.

Josephine, thanks for the information on P. incarnata. I'll get the shoots I dug out in pots.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Here is my little Desert Willow, ( Chilopsis linearis ) pollarded to keep it small and fresh.

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San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

bettydee, thanks for your help. I don't think its Missouri Primrose because its bloom buds are not salmony red or deep peachy red (the color is hard to describe). However, the faded blooms are about the same color. From a distance (speeding along in the car), with the blooms being bright yellow (not fading yet) and the large buds being a different color, it looks like 2 plants growing together with 2 different blooms.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

This is Honey Locust, ( Gleditsia triacanthos) this tree is native to the eastern half of Texas.
It has trememdous thorns at least 3 inches long,on the branches and all along the trunk.
We remove the thorns from the trunk, and keep it pollarded to keep it under control, but the foliage is lacy and beautiful.
Here is a picture of the tree in the winter, in all it's terrible beauty.

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Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Here is the Honey Locust as it is right now, pollarded and under control.

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Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

A picture of Salvia Guaranitica, normally blues don't turn out too well in my pictures, but I thought this one was quite nice.

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Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

The Mexican Hat ( Ratibida columnaris ) a Texas native.
The first bloom of the season, isn't it lovely?

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Lockhart, TX(Zone 8b)

konkreteblond---I love the toad in the frogfruit. I dont know wether to call that appropriate or ironic! I love toads, hes a cutie!

and frostweed---thanks for posting the pic of the autumn sage! I've been trying to find out for ages what the plant was they always call "hummingbird bush"!

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Hello Frankentrina, wellcome to the thread. You never know when a picture you post will be of help to someone, that is why we should post as many as possible. There is allways something new to learn, and lots of surprises, if you look all around you.
Josephine.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Here is a lovely native plant that is usually plentiful around this area, Lance-leaf Coreopsis,
( Coreopsis lanceolata ) It is a perennial and it blooms all season, so it is a very desireable plant. Coreopsis is a combination word from Greek and Latin, meaning looking like a bug.
It refers to the looks of the seed head, which looks like a beetle. Another common name isTickseed.

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Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

This is Plains Coreopsis, ( Coreopsis tinctoria ) This is native annual that is also very prevalent in Texas. It is very delicate and lovely and forms showy borders along roadsides.

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Conroe, TX(Zone 9a)

Josephine,

I was at the Wildseed Farms recently, and I got to wondering: just the fact that the range of a wildflower includes TX doesn't mean it is a TX native, does it? Sometimes I get confused about what is native or what is not (with any plant) when the decriptions simply mention a range that includes TX.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

The Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center defines a native as one that has not been artificially introduced nor one that is cultivated. That definition is almost the same as is mentioned in the introduction to Wildflowers of Texas. If we chose to discuss only those plants endemic to Texas, it would narrow the list considerably. I, personally, don't have a problem going with the broader definition including escaped plants that are making it on their own. It makes it more interesting that way.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Hello Maggiemoo, good to hear from you. I have wanted to go the wildflower farm and haven't
made it yet, you sure are having a lot of fun.
I think that when they say Texas native they mean that the plant was found in Texas, when the
plants first were recorded and cataloged by the botanists. However the fact that a plant occurs
in Texas naturally, and is a native, doesn't mean that it doesn't occur in other states as well.
So a plant could be native to Texas, but also to Oklahoma, Louisiana ect.
However, when a plant occurs only in Texas, they call it Endemic to Texas. The only plant that I can think of right now that is endemic is the Texas Bluebonnet, but I am sure that there are many many more.
It would be interesting to find out how many plants that are endemic to Texas we have in the state.
Why don't we all do a little research and see how many we can come up with?
I think it would be a lot of fun.
Josephine.

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

The list seems large: http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/cgi/endemics_taxa_page2?all=yes

Conroe, TX(Zone 9a)

Oh, John! You were just waiting for that question, weren't you?
:-)

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

John! I am flabbergasted! Wow! I guess it just had never occurred to me to look just for those.
Now I wish they had the common names too. Is that asking for too much?

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

I found that sight difficult to use. But, I guess it could serve as a checklist.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

I have looked a little more and found this site;

http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/endemics/endemae.htm

It does list the common names, but there aren't many that are popular, although I did see some.
We will have to make a list of the popular ones, anyone up to the task?

Conroe, TX(Zone 9a)

Oy, vay! That looks like a job for John, for sure! (Like how I volunteered you, John?) ;-)

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

Notice how quiet I've been? LOL I'll give it a shot tomorrow. ;-)

Burleson, TX(Zone 8a)

Not me, I don't even know what Endemics is....lol...going to get the dictionary.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

That is going to be some task. Between TAMU's list, the USDA's lists and other books, it's a real mess. Names change. The lists may not be complete. TAMU's list & photos are identical to photos from Digital Flora of Texas Vascular Plant Image Library. I tried to find one flower. It took me 2+ hours to sort things out.

For example, I picked a plant that is blooming now. It blankets our pastures for several weeks. It's a member of the Iris Family. So far so good. All references I checked agreed on that. Texas Wildflowers doesn't list it at all. The photo in Wildflowers of Texas lists it as Herbertia drummondii (This photo is identical to what I have.) TAMU has photos of Herbertia lahue, almost identical, but not what I have growing here. It doesn't list H. drummondii. The USDA plant data files list 6 synonyms and 3 different flowers under the same name. The Pacific Bulb Society has photos of Herbertia lahue as well as photos of H. lahue ssp. caerulea (Identical to mine.) Now that I'm throughly confused I spend the next hour or so sorting through names and photos. Several of the names listed by the USDA plant data files are no longer accepted. This includes the name used in Wildflowers of Texas. One of those names, Alophia drummondii, has been given to another member of the Iris Family. After 2+ hours of searching and looking at photos, I found that Herbertia drummondii is no longer a valid name. It is now known as Herbertia lahue ssp. caerulea, a native but not an endemic wildflower. The common name mentioned by the USDA is propeller plant, TAMU calls H. lahue celestials and a PDF file on Coastal Prairie Flowers calls them prairienymphs.

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Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

Starting the day with a stupid migraine. Off to a late start!

Burleson, TX(Zone 8a)

Eeeekkk, sorry to hear that John! I have them and feel for you.

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

John and konkreteblond, I have migraines too, but hardly ever suffer from them anymore. I have a weird visual disturbance at the onset. Portions of my vision are blank (like looking at someone and their right eye isn't there, words are missing in a sentence, etc.) and I "see" a wriggling, pulsating, neon-yellow amoeba type thing. Fortunately, I know I am getting a migraine and I take my medication. It never develops into the horrible, wish you were dead, pain and nausea. I am still a little sensitive to light after the medication. If neither of you take a prescriiption for them, email me and I will let you know what I take and maybe you can talk to your physician about perhaps trying the medication out to determine if it helps. No one can even imagine what a migraine does to you unless they have experienced one.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Hello Bettydee, Wow, it seems that we have opened up a big can of worms. Now even the former approved names are not valid! You sure have a lot of patience and stamina to stick with it and sort through the mire, and you desrve a lot of credit.
Will you please post your picture again with it's full name as it is known at this time?
And don't forget to post it on Dave's plant files, your picture is very lovely, better tham the ones they have. Thank you again, I don't know if trying to identify endemics will be worth the trouble,
we shall see what comes up with all of our good detectives working on it.
But I don't really want it to become a pain, after all endemic or not, all plants are beautifull in their own way. Josephine.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Dear John, Konkreetblond and Htop, I hope those migraines go away for good.
Josephine.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

htop,

A few years ago,I had the symptoms you described. The effect lasted several hours. It was followed by a massive headache. And wouldn't you know it, it happened late Friday. On Monday, my GP referred me to a neurologist. I ended up getting an MRI 2 days later. I'd had a stroke. I've learned a lot about strokes and migraines since then. I was told those symptoms can indicate either a migraine or a stroke. I asked, "How can I tell the difference? Answer: "You don't, go to emergency. They'll tell you after tests. It's better to be safe than sorry." My migraines start with a halo of light. If I take my medication right after the halo, I avoid the worst part of the migraine. I've noticed, however, that over time the number of migraines has gone way down. I hope yours, John and Konkreteblond's migraines subside.
Veronica

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Does anyone know how long it takes for an entry to the PlantFiles to show up. I added Herbertia lahue ssp. caerulea, the information as well as a photo. When I tried looking for it, it didn't show up. What did I do wrong?

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Bettydee, it takes normally 3 or four days. I depends on how many pictures you have uploaded to the files. They usually go and post the oldest first, however, if there seems to be a question as to whether the imformation on your post is correct, they will hold it untill they have checked it and veryfied it. If you go to your home page on Dave's you can see how many pictures you have pending. If they seem to be passing a picture over, for a long time, you might want to contact them and see what the problem is, they will tell you why they are holding it.
I hope that helps.
josephine,

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Bettydee, I looked at your Dave's home page and your picture of Herbertia is not pending and it is not in the plant files. Evidently it didn't upload for some reason. you might want to try it again.

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

Josephine, thanks for hoping our migraines cease and desist. I really never have the pain and the visual disturbances subside after I take the medication. So, I am very lucky. If one waits too long to take the medication, there is not much that can be done to stop the migraine from intensifying.

Veronica, when I first started having the visual disturbances I was afraid I was having small strokes and saw a neurologist who, after conducting tests, diagnosed my problem as "Migraine Syndrome" in which the brain over reacts to light, sound and/or motion (I can see the flickering in flourescent lights, strobe lights make me want to pass out, ceiling fans drive me crazy, have motion sickness unless I am riding in the front seat of an automoble where I can see forward instead of the scenery passing to the side when in the backseat, have to wear dark glasses most of the time especially in flourescent light). My brain does not shutdown easily and that's why I am up at all hours of the night posting at Dave's. :o) My brother has the same visual symptoms. After taking the medication before the onset of a full blown migraine for several years, the number of migrains stedily decreased until I very seldom have them anymore. Thanks for the information.

Now back to the question about you PlantFiles entry. Look on your Homepage, click on My Info and it lists everything you have contributed including pending photos. I'll check it out like Frostweed did and see if it there now ... the plant entry is there, but no photo. Just upload the photo again as Frostweed suggested. Everytime I upload a photo, I check to be sure that it has been added by clicking on the "images that are pending" line just to be sure it uploaded.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

I looked for it this morning. It's in. I'll try to remember the "images that are pending" line.

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

I'll look forward to seeing the photo that you added.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Bettydee, the images are in the plant files, Congratulations!

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Hello Everyone, I counted the plants on this link,
Vascular Plants Endemic to Texas, A to Z and I counted 325. I dont know if that is all of them, I liked this one beause it gives the common name.

http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/endemics/endemae.htm

So far I haven't found many popular ones, I have gone through half of it and I have only found
12 that are recognizable, I will make a list of the ones I recognize, and put it up for everyone.
Josephine.

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