okay, Just how do you get rid of spider mites, i sprayed before i brought them in for the winter,
and about every two weeks i get them again, i spray and spray and still am having problems, do you really ever get rid of spider mites on Brugs or is it part of the territory?
do you ever get rid of spider mites
If you spray them with avid they will go away. Do you have your brugs growing inside or dormant? I think brugs and spider mites go hand in hand if you keep them growing inside the house during the winter. I've got all of mine tucked in the garage until spring. The only problem I get is aphids if the plant has leaves. Most of mine don't have leaves right now.
My Brugs are inside in a spare room, they were dorment, but they decided they didn't want to sleep any longer, started getting leaves again in January and sure enough the spider mites re-appeared. I will try to find Avid here and give it a try. Thanks datdog
Since Avid three years back, I have never had spidermites again.
You will most likely have to buy it online,
Guessing they are rampant in Ohio. They have been my biggest challenge since growing them for last 4-5 years. There are three types of mites, I seem to have them all. Broad/Cyclamin/Spider mites. Then there are aphids and whiteflys. Sigh.........
Have you tried Avid, Gloria? I had, with not much luck but perhaps I will try it again. No mites ever again is such a delightful dream. Does it kill all different kinds of mites?
So is Avid a systemic in that you do not need to get every inch of each leaf for it to still be effective? Any one know?
whiteflys are killing me!!!!!!!!!
no problem with mites thank goodness, had enough trouble with gnats but since using gnatrol they have gone
I have Avid. Used it 3 times in summer, the minute I wasn't looking(just as brugs were full of buds) the durned mites came back again, all buds dropped. Then used Neem oil, as that is supposed to smother them. Used it 3 consecutive weeks. Gone until next month inside, so it is never ending!
We have lots of fruit trees, ornimental bushes, strawberries, blackberries, etc. which is said to draw mites, so, possibly why I have such a problem.
Well i quess we will just have to start giving the little critters all names keep them arounds as pets. LOL I will put up with them for the sake of having my Brugs. Just have to control them from time to time.
I spray the Brugs with Avid before bringing them in the house in the fall and then in Feb when I transfer them to the GH I spray again.
I haven't seen a mite since I started using it about 2 yrs ago.
It's expensive but it's worth it because it works.
Guess I'm going to have to get some Avid. I only have a couple that are affected, but those that are have it BAD!
Floramite is also good, but it doesn't work on those mites that burrow into the leaves. Avid is really a good product. Just remember to follow directions and not use it more than three times in a row without using another product inbetween so the mites don't become immune to the Avid.
thanks all for the information, so can only get Avid online right?
I got mine from Ebay- expensive but I think the one bottle will last me forever. I use it with a fogger. Joelle
A fogger? How does tha twork? It sounds like it would take less water and you would have more control.
Here is a picture of it, It cost about $70. I use an oil based pyrethrin (sp)insecticide with a drop of Avid... I am certainly not recommending this to anyone. The fogger heats up and Avid should probably not be heated. This is a thing I do at my own risk and do not want anyone to get hurt. Can you tell I don't want to be responsible for anyone having troubles. I should have kept this to myself. Please don't email me and tell me that it is not a good idea.
Between you and me Kell- it works... Joelle who may blow up tomorrow- but no pests in the GH!
LOL. Maybe you should wear a mask!
You know mites so not like heat as in hot water. So it may help!!
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I don't have brugs (want some) but I do have a greenhouse full of tropicals. I use Isotox (acephate) twice on everything before bringing the plants inside in the fall, and then again if necessary during the winter. It smells awful, but is very effective on mites, scale, whiteflies, etc. and not anywhere close to the $$$$ that Avid costs. I usually do not have any problems all winter unless I get a new plant and neglect to treat it right away. Then during the summer, all kinds of little buggers show up from the surrounding trees and shrubs, and blow in from the south on the breeze, I think, LOL.
Be sure to use a respirator, goggle, long sleeves, etc. when spraying. Do not spray on a hot sunny day! Move the plants to a shady spot and spray early in the morning if you do not have any cloudy weather.
If you just have whiteflies or aphids, try Bayer's rose and flower insecticide...get the concentrate because the ready mixed is pretty expensive. It does not have any odor and so it is great to use in the home. I found some last year at Dollar General for only $3 a bottle!
Hope this helps a bit,
Susan
Hi Susan. Welcome to the Brug forum. Yes, you need some brugs. We need to get you addicted.
My problem with mites will be during the summer for the most part, when it gets dry and hot outside. Inside, I don't have big problems. Just little flare ups that can easily be taken care of if they don't get out of hand. Even then, a small bottle fixed up with Avid takes care of them.
Hi Susan! If you hang around here you will have brugs before you know it!
I used to use Isotox years ago. I haven't seenit lately so I thought it was long off the market. I will try it!!! Though I hate using spray. In one of my brug locations, my brugs are covered in mites. Avid just has not worked well for me. THANKS!!
Thanks for the welcoming words, folks. I am afraid I will get "brug fever" if I am on here very much, ha.
Actually, though, I would like some suggestions on what cultivar of brug would be best for me when I do finally break down and get one. We have hot humid summers and I have a small (full) greenhouse for winter. I am wanting one that flowers profusely at a young age, and stays compact. If it keeps a lovely dark green color in the leaves, that would be nice. I like the doubles, especially pinks and peaches. Any thoughts on what I should look for? I prefer advice from you'all over any old catalogs...when something is for sale, they try to tell you it is the best, even when it's not.
Kell, they changed the Isotox label and my bottle is in the GH right now so I can't tell you exactly what it says, but anyway Ortho makes it and the main ingredient is acephate.
I have spider mites bad, I have to spray once a week at least, they still come back, I was using malathion, it doesn't even help them, I'm really getting frustrated, I hope that avid does work, i'm thinking of trying it.
kathy
HOly cow it's $350 a quart, Jeese, I can't afford that stuff LOL
kathy
I am buying the 8 oz. Should be enough to last for years. Hope it doesn't get old!
Where did you order your Avid from Joelle? I thought you couldn't order stuff like that and have it shipped here. I'm interested in getting some. Am also interested in Imidacloprid and wondered if you could get that shipped here. Does anyone know?
Sandy
Sandy- I'll pm you.
I also was in shock to see $350 a quart and will probably research out from my local Nurseries to see if anything else will work first that is a big investment for me.
RIght now the Brugs are in the house and finally I think I don't have any spider mites but i know the little guys will be back LOL. Toxicodendron, you have have to get some Brugs so you can join in on the addiction like the rest of us. It only took one and how the night scents took over my mind, I haven't been the same since.
$100 will buy 8 oz. at Rosemania. When you only use a quarter teaspoon per gallon of water, it goes a long ways. http://rosemania.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page9.html Shipping is free to the lower 48.
Holy Moly! I could never afford to spend that kind of money! Ouch! I'd have to give up on my Brugs altogether if I had to do that! I'll stick with my Malathion!
I agree Karrie. When I bought mine, I shared the cost with a friend, but even at that, $50 is a lot of money. I thought about it, but found that I could go through a lot more than $50 worth of insecticides in a summer easily and my half has lasted over two years plus, I gave some to Arlene in Florida, and to Rootdoctor and Mailman. I've probably given more away than I've used and have enough left for this summer. I think it was a good buy.
Avid is the best hands down when used correctly. I bought it locally, it's my understanding that you must have a pesticide lisence in most states to obtain it. I got lucky and bought mine from a company named "Lesco". They deal mainly in turf related items and you have to open a acct. but that is easy.
In order to get rid of the mites is to be CERTAIN you cover EVERY PART OF THE PLANT. That is impossible IMO. Between me and my other friends, we've decided that spider mites eventually "evolve" and end up eating all other pesticides that used to kill them in the beginning.LOLOL Atleast Avid can keep them under control. It also pays off to understand the spidermites reproductive cycles and spray accordingly. They lay eggs that hatch in like 7 days etc. If I recall correctly, we had the best luck spraying 3 times timed to approx. 3-7 and 21 days apart. Avid can take care of them in 1 shot if done completely but every extra precaution helps. There used to be quite a few articles out there that tell all about the timing I'm talking about. The other benefits of Avid are no phototoxicity so your leaves don't get burnt from spraying in the sun/light like with most other pyrethrins etc..
There is another place you can buy smaller amounts of Avid online from "The african violet lady".
Saves your self time and your sanity and find some people to divide up a bottle. It will last you the rest of your life and "spidermite rage" will turn into a killing laughter. I've tried everything under the sun from neem oil, soaps, home made pesticides, diotomacous earth and voodoo!LOLOL AVID is where it's at period.
Goodluck and keep your plants healthy. Healthy plant's are your first/best line of defense.
JD
What is knat control? Those knats and those darned spider mites are the biggest nuisances (sic?) I've had my share of the aphids too Grrrrrrrrrr....I'm gonna break down and get me some Avid! It's on my priority list!
Long time, no see JD!! So good to have you back!!! SherryLike
JD
I went to the link for the The african violet lady, and I couldnt find where you purchase the 'Avid'???? Help!
Lots of activity on this thread.
I wanted to mention that the Isotox is now Ortho's Systemic Insect Killer. You can get it at Walmart. Look for acephate as the active ingredient. I think it costs about $12 a pint, and you use 3 TBSP per gallon, so it would not last nearly as long as Avid. I hate spraying, but I find that acephate kills spider mites, whiteflies, scale, aphids, and other hard to terminate pests better than anything else I have tried. Now I am lusting for some Avid, of course.
Avoid the pyrethrins, they really damage tender parts of plants in my experience.
I have a question, and I know it might sound silly.
Thinking about the spider mites, and what they like, which is hot, dry conditions. (and tasty brug flesh LOL)
Would it help if I used a humidifier in the room where I haven't forced dormancy?
It would probably help my houseplants and tropicals that winter over together w/the brug anyway.
Has anybody tried that? Thanks!
You know what Hellobebe, I thought about that last night! We are on the same page, if brugs don't love hot, dry conditions then why not add some humidity to the room ? Stands to reason. Not sure how it much it would work, but I'll try it anyway. Let's see if anyone tried it before...anyone out there?