This is a work in progress; all information is subject to change. I have written this using lots of info from different people and sources. Previously it had been thought of as a new and different fungus which Monika called Stangelbrand but it now appears to really be phoma with or without other fungus (like Fusarium, Phomopsis, Verticillium etc) possibly invading the infected tissue also.
If anyone has additions or improvements please post here and then I will transfer it all over to the picture thread so we can keep the info all together on 1 thread for quick and easy reference.
Seemingly Truths:
1. Phoma is a fungus.
2. Once a plant has phoma there is no known cure.
3. Even a clean cutting from an infected plant will eventually show up with phoma and it will be contagious even though it shows no obvious symptoms.
4. Phoma lesions are dry rot. They often show up at the nodes of a stem. They are black and slowly dry to a dried scab that often has a black ring around it. The lesions are usually slightly indented.
5. Seeds from infected plants may carry it. I am unclear about this one. I do not know if the pollen is infected or not. Make sure you wash off all pod tissue from seeds. A 10% bleach rinse may be helpful.
6. Aphids, thrips and other sucking insects should be able to transmit it.
How Phoma Spreads:
1. Yellow multihybrids are very prone to catching phoma. They seem to catch it just by being in close proximity to phoma.
2. Brugs with Suaveolens genes also seem to be more prone to it than any other type of brugs.
3. All other brugs can catch it if directly infected with phoma by
A. using a contaminated pruner or a saw or any tool that has come into contact with the sap from an infected brug on it.
B. sharing contaminated water that has been used on an infected brug. Example: if they share a saucer together and water goes thru the soil of the infected plant to the saucer and then is drawn up by the other non-infected plants.
C. using phoma contaminated dirt
D. sharing a cup of water when rooting or a pot of dirt.
E. having your hands come into contact with an infected brug then to go on and touch other brugs without washing your hands well.
F. Insects can carry it thru out your yard.
Prevention:
1. Keep all new cuttings and plants apart from your other brugs for at least 1 year, preferably 2.
2. Observe your brugs carefully and frequently looking for any signs of phoma.
3. Always sterilize any tools that have been used on your brugs before going onto the next brug.
4. Never allow them to share the same saucer.
5. Only keep brugs from the same plant together in a cup of water, or in the same pot to root.
6. Sterilize all pots before reusing.
7. Do not reuse dirt, but if you must, be very careful which dirt you reuse. Never reuse dirt from an infected plant. Phoma lives in the dirt.
8. Use saucers under potted brugs to prevent contaminated water from draining into ground thus contaminating the ground under the plant. If not possible, use under highly phoma prone plants or ones that look suspicious. Realize this saucer then must be sterilized before using under another brug.
If You Have Phoma:
1. Take pictures of the lesions to share info.
2. If possible take a plant sample into your local Agricultural cooperative extension office for diagnosis.
3. Wrap rest of plant carefully and dispose of plant off your property; however you feel is the best way to prevent its spread. Burn if possible.
4. Wrap the dirt and pot if one and also dispose of the best way to prevent further contamination.
5. Sterilize all tools used in plant in boiling water for a minimum of 5 minutes.
If Plant Was in the Ground: in addition to above
1. Dig up plant and wrap carefully to dispose of off your property.
2. Clean and sterilize shovel well.
3. Realize the dirt where the plant was, is now contaminated. Wait several years before you replant a brug in the same place. And a hint: do not plant your best brug there! LOL
To Help STOP the Spread of phoma:
1. Notify the sender of the sick brug so they can take precautions and also notify anyone whom you sent brugs to since you received the infected brug.
2. Add type of brug, picture of lesions and state that you are in, on a thread set up for phoma tracking on your garden forum.
3. If you can, isolate all brugs that may have been contaminated from your other brugs.
4. Do not share cuttings or rooted plants from your collection for at least a year of being phoma free.
5. Only import Brugmansia from other countries with the proper paperwork for unfortunately phoma can be prevalent in different countries.
Please note: All of the safety precautions will also help you prevent the spread of viruses in your collections. In addition, sucking insects like aphids can transmit virus between plants.
This message was edited Apr 26, 2006 12:39 PM
Stengelbrand, a work in progress!
Good job Kell.
Picture came in now, was only a red X before.
I can't believe how much time I spend looking at stems, always looked for buds and flowers before.
This message was edited Mar 3, 2004 10:11 AM
Kell, that that's perfect. It will be great to have all the important info in one place and easy to refer to.
Nice job!
very good info, only one problem. fusarium and verticulitim are in the soil all over the world. if you grow tomatoes, you know why you get the resistant varieties --- one big reason is to prevent the wilts!
I have had this wilt, and personally i like calling it by the Americqn name. From what i read it was fusarium, though i didn't take it into a lab. fursarium is in soils all over the world. this is not an exotic disease that is only passed from plant to plant. it runs in families. if you pull out an affected plant, you can plant lots of things in the same soil that will never be affected.... can grow like crazy.
where are you, tomato growers?
I hope that people will quit treating this like leprosy. the fungal wilts are just that, nothing more or less.
i guess i was wrong, Monika, i thought you told me a couple of years ago that cuttings with this disease would not root?
The percentage of rooting success is very low, it depends on the stadium of infection of the Motherplant.
Verticillium is not a problem in my region but only of warmer parts of Europe. For that reason, Verticillium can be excluded.
You should not close your eyes before the fact arlene, that some of us were growing Brugmansias for more than 25 years and SB was unknown to us until 1995.
Great job, Kell! Lots of information we can all certainly use!
How long have you grown brugs for Monika? What a great life! I wish I had realized what fun hybridizing was years ago.
Kell and Monika, I think you are doing a great job at trying to stop whatever this is before it gets worse. I think that is an excellent write up so far!
I just got this.
The symptoms are suggestive of a fungal crown rot disease. I’ve seen the plant pathogenic fungi Fusarium, Phytophthora, and Botrytis each cause similar symptoms on other host plants. In those cases, the stem canker eventually girdles the stem resulting in wilt and death of the plant – is that happening with yours? Hopefully you are able to get the plant to the K-State lab for diagnosis. -Karen
Karen K. Rane
Plant Disease Diagnostician
I linked her to the start of this thread,to give her an idea of what we have going on.
Well, the German experts told Monika that it was "Fusarium spec. organism, which has not previously been found in Brugmansia before."
We will see!
I haven't seen any pics of these infected brugs wilting though. Are yours wilting Root?
No,not at all Kell.
kell, appr. about 27 to 28 years.
WOW! And well spent to see all your creations.
Monika ,how long ago were you working with Passiflora?
I worked with them until 1990.
You and Susie have so much in common!
Monika, i am aware that it can be transferred, but all this blame stuff is ridiculous. my eyes are not closed. as you said yourself, they found fusarium in your specimen.
BRUGS ARE IN THE SAME FAMILY AS TOMATOES AND GET THE SAME DISEASES!
This is not an exotic disease that is only passed down from people who are too stupid to take care of their brugs right, and all those insinuating so should hang their heads in shame, but they won't.
In case there is someone who doesn't know, i don't brown nose anyone, for anything, and there is absolutely no brug in the world worth a friendship or a hard feeling.
So Root, let us know as soon as you hear anything! A few others are taking their cuttings in also so maybe we will get a more definitive answer than Monika got in Germany! Thanks
I just got off the phone with "I'll call her my Agent", she said not to tell them anything,let them go into the testing blind and see what they come up with,this way they are not steered in any one direction.
Sounds like a good way to do it Root. It's like trying to tell your Dr. about your problems, might set him/her off in the wrong direction. Tell them nothing, let's see what they come up with.
This message was edited Mar 4, 2004 12:43 PM
I love it! Your agent! LOL.
Well, unless they have a cure I guess it won't matter much what name they come up with. Thank goodness Monika has told us how to co-exist with this without it destroying our collections.
I am hoping for a cure!
One thing I am not clear about: if a plant looks like it has sb, will the lesions heal over and the plant continue to thrive, but keep getting more lesions? In other words, will sb kill the plant eventually? I have a hugh plant, but sure looks like sb on it, but they are hard places, like scars. This plant did fall over and broke off some branches. Guess I need a picture.
Roz, it will slowly decline and eventually die.
I will keep it away from all the others and watch it. Thanks, Poppysue for answering. Apprciate the help.
Roz,If you have not destroyed the plant,and would like to have it tested,I would be willing to take it in to the college here for you,let me know.
Root.
Roz, a picture would be very helpful.
The infection slows down the growth. The lesions will spread all over. By the given description of your plant, it could be just callous. For that reason, a picture would be helpful.
I pulled this link after getting off the phone with them.
This message was edited Mar 8, 2004 9:46 AM
Wow, Root, would you really do that for me? I would very very much appreciate it. Can I email you for info as to how you want me to send it to you?
Monica, you are so right, a picture would be much better to show what I am talking about. I am going to try real hard to get a picture to work (I really need a course in picture-taking-sendin). It really does look bad to me, and is moving right on up the stalk - there are more than one place on this otherwise beautiful blooming plant.
Root, you are fine fella, a gentleman, and a pal!
You bet I will Roz,I am not wanting any finger pointing,and I refuse to involve myself in any depth with the things that I have seen the past few days.
My ground is,Lets get together and whip this thing!
As said before,I have a plant at K State,I may be banging my head on a wall there,but it will be a day or so,before I know anything,I will be in touch with them as soon as I post this.
CBrandenberg,I saw your post,where you said,the plant was still wanting to grow,I would be tempted to isolate at as best you can,in case other samples are needed,for other labs.
Email me Roz.;0)
Will do!!
Yes, these 2 coral glow cuttings and a few others are septerated from the rest. I have these in the house, the rest went to the greenhouse. I will be watching all these plants. I was wondering, I ordered some new plants and want to know how far apart is a good distance to keep them when they come. My greenhouse is 16' X 50', would keeping new brugs on one end of the greenhouse and the other's on the other end be far enough apart?
I will have to refer Monika to this question.
As far as plants coming here for a lab,they will never see the inside of my house,straight to K State.
I have just heard a couple more people have come down with SB on one of their brugs, so I thought this may be helpful to all of us to review this info to protect our brugs!!
I've just destroyed another five separate trees today with the classic symptoms. They are (were):
Jean Pasco
Insignis Pink
Goldtraum
My Pink
Coral Glow
A few weeks ago, I destroyed these:
Jamaican Yellow
My Pink
Kyle's Giant White
Monster White
Miss Anna
I am watching these carefully:
Snow White
Whiskers
At this rate, I'll only have a few B. aureas and B. versicolors left!
Oddly enough, I got all of the above trees as cuttings from one generous person two years ago when I was just starting out growing brugs, but this could just be a coincidence, and I could have spread it myself with a cutting tool when pruning before I knew about SB and the importance of sterilizing cutting tools.
Oh WOW Clare. What a shame. I am surprised Whiskers does not have it too. You must feel sick.
I am so sorry! I am also so glad plumies don't get this. Do they??
Wow, Clare. I had to destory a couple this year also. One was a yellow suav. and the other was Vixen. i destoryed several others that didn't perform like i thought they should.
Hi, Kell, and thanks so much. I do feel sick and sad. I really liked that Jean Pasco especially, and it had just gotten to a full bloom stage when I noticed all the lesions. I'm surprised Whiskers does not have it too, but I don't see any marks on the branches yet. It is so prone to catepillar damage that it may be headed for destruction as well. Plumies do get viruses too, but guess what? It distorts the bloom in a fantastic way so much so that plumies with the Frangipani Mosaic Virus sell for hundreds of dollars. It's a crying shame. It is all over Thailand and cannot be controlled and is destroying the pureness of the flowers there. Plumeria collectors are bringing plumerias with the Frangipani Mosaic Virus into their gardens, and they don't realize the hazards of doing this. The virus causes a color break on the flowers. Here's a picture below of the color break virus as it appears on one flower in Thailand.
Thanks, Ada. I have a few more that are not performing well also such as Sun Kissed and U. Conn Treasure, and they may have to go also.
Clare, I'm keeping a close eye on mine also and hope no insects or water runoff contaminated any of the others.
Clare, I am so sorry to hear about your burgs. When you put all that love and time into something and then some virus kills all of them that is very sad. I wish I could do something but I do not know what. I am sad with you.
Joan
Clare and Ada, I hate to hear about your struggles with SB. I know how you feel. I have had to destroy my fair share of brugs this year due to SB or something that is very similar.
Right off the top off my head I have lost all of these between this year and last year.
Camile
Jean Pasco
Tropical Sunset
Bebe
Charles Grimaldi
Peek-a-boo
Mango Crush
Insig. 90-95
First Love
And several (well over a dozen) seedlings.
I have said before, I think that no matter what precautions one may take, we will likely see SB in many more collections in the future. If whiteflies can carry broad mites on their feet, who knows what insect may transmit SB.
So far my Whiskers has been spared, and I have not seen any new cases in the last few weeks thank God. Hopefully I am turning the corner and have it on the run.
