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philomel Castelnau RB Pyrenée, France(Zone 8a) Dec 23, 2002

On the "When I went down to the woods today...." thread: http://davesgarden.com/t/365056/ we were discussing the properties of the fungus and that the Sami (Laps) process them through the digestive tracts of their reindeer to make the halucinogens safer to take. The other day I was discussing with a friend various stories connected with shamans and the origin of father christmas came up:

The reindeer naturally search out fly agaric, and get high on it - staggering around, prancing and leaping. The shaman would drink the urine to assist his own trances. The Sami dwellings are designed so that, in the depths of winter, the only way in is down the chimney. And the shaman's ceremonial garb is red!!

So we have flying reindeer, and a father figure in red coming down the chimney.

I visited a Sami 'village' when i was in N Norway a few years ago. Didn't see any of this though lol. I hoped to unearth photos of this but unfortunately they seem to be lost in the mists of time (probably buried in a cupboard)

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Wintermoor Jesteburg-Wiedenhof, Germany(Zone 8a) Dec 23, 2002

I'll have a pint of that please Barman, can't be worse than your Watney's Red Barrel ;-)

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philomel Castelnau RB Pyrenée, France(Zone 8a) Dec 23, 2002

Not a lot could

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mark Antrim, Northern Ire, United Kingdom(Zone 8b) Dec 24, 2002

I know just the man - well, young man - who can hopefully verify this.

I could just imagine this happening.

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Weezingreens Seward, AK(Zone 3b) Dec 25, 2002

Perhaps this is why St. Nick is so "Jolly", Philomel. Had Coca Cola caught a whiff of this analogy before they used Santa Claus in their ads so many years ago, we'd probably have an entirely different character to whip us into the Christmas spirit each year!

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philomel Castelnau RB Pyrenée, France(Zone 8a) Dec 25, 2002

And have you asked this young man yet Mark?

Well I'm just off out to find out whether the reindeer were flying well enough to let Santa deliver gifts to the grandchildren..............hope they've been good LOL!!

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mark Antrim, Northern Ire, United Kingdom(Zone 8b) Dec 25, 2002

the young man is Evert.

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philomel Castelnau RB Pyrenée, France(Zone 8a) Dec 25, 2002

Yes, the only one we know from almost the right part of the world.

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Wingnut Spicewood, TX(Zone 8b) Dec 25, 2002

"Perhaps this is why St. Nick is so "Jolly"." ROTF! No kidding! What a funny thing ~ most of our Christmas traditions might have come about by the use of halucinogens. LOLOLOLOL!

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Evert Helsinki, Finland(Zone 4b) Dec 25, 2002

Sorry but I am not from Lapland ;) Mayeb I can help anyway, what would you like to know?

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mark Antrim, Northern Ire, United Kingdom(Zone 8b) Dec 25, 2002

of course

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