Recipe site not accepting edits

Tried to edit an ingredient into a recipe and it failed three times. Does this take a while to correct? I added another post with the correction, but it would be nice to be able to correct the recipe itself. Thanks.

There should be an edit sign at the bottom of your thread, click on edit and it deletes whatever you need. I do NOT see it on yours'.???

Did that several times to no avail.

Do you ever have an edit sign at the bottom of your post? I click on it, go back into your message and change whatever. Maybe ask Dave why you do not have edit on yours at the bottom?? Heard your turkey casserole recipe was a good one.

Yes, there is an edit sign at the bottom of my post, and it hasn't been functional for the past couple of days. Oh well, just means more corrections in new posts. Kind of space consuming though.

Hibiscus, no one can see the 'edit' except yourself. I can't see yours and you can't see mine.

I had NO idea!

Pala, I had the same problem on one of the other forums. I went back to my entry on a thread in the PDB forum and clicked edit, but it didn't work. Must be a glitch.

This may be the problem
http://davesgarden.com/t/349615/

Zany, she said she has edit under her name

tiG if you notice the first comment in that link the edit button was there but sis not function.

this is probably better left to Dave rather than speculate.

WHERE is this recipe site? I want to see that turkey casserole. Thanks.

Yes, the explanation at the Hyperlink is applicable in this case, too. Not a big deal, and there's nothing to see here, folks. Move along. :)

OK, I'm giving editing another try right here.

Well, it worked now, so either I've been a good girl since I posted on this thread, or it was a glitch on the PDB. This whole thing is a bit creepy. Wish we'd been told. This way I feel rather foolish about my previous post... why not tell the world I'm on probation!

This message was edited Saturday, Nov 9th 4:02 PM

Hibiscus, click the forums link on the right side of this page and you'll see listed there a Recipe Forum. If you like it, add it to your subscribed forums under your preferences at DG. It's always got something tantelizing, so enjoy! :)

Thank you!!

“Orgy porgy, Ford and fun.”
--Brave New World
Microcosm of the big picture, eh Dave? ;-)

This is the aforementioned info in the hyperlink to save you the trip, if you're so inclined:

"I'm afraid that's a by-product of my "alert" system. Following the recent problems we had in another thread, I had to place you under alert so we could keep a close eye on the things that you posted.

When we place a member under alert, we are notified of every move they make within the site, and in this manner can quickly respond to abuses of the system. Thankfully you've been a good citizen, the previous situation blew over rather quickly, and I am planning to lift the alert in a few days. I've already downgraded you from "Red alert" to "Yellow alert" so we're no longer notified of your every action. This is because the trust is slowly coming back.

When a member is under alert of any kind, they lose certain priviliges, one of which is the ability to edit their posts.

You're not the first (nor likely the last) member to be placed under alert. We've been doing it for a VERY long time and usually the member doesn't even know they are under alert. You appear to be more perceptive than most. :)

Hope that helps,
Dave"

That's all I wanted to know, even though I suspected it, it would have been nice to have been told, although that would defeat the purpose, wouldn't it? At least now I know that my computer isn't @#$%-ed up. (Do you see a profanity here or just a bunch of symbols? Just testing the "rainbow alert" system.) But will it allow me to post the turkey casserole recipe outside of the recipe forum...Here goes:

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11111110000010100101001
100011010100000010001010101010101010111111111111111
000000000000000000000000000000010001100000000000000
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cough, stutter, patoooey!!!
Fooey!
--Pala

Now it takes 15 seconds for me (and perhaps others being watched)(??) to open up each page on the website, whereas it used to take a second... Are you still viewing our every action behind the mirror? Fact: What I see as being posted on my little edit window here is different from the actual outcome. Fact: I didn't know I was under surveillance. It begs the question of what else is going on and to whom(?) You do own the website, but still, might this practice be deceptive and misleading to members' rights as an individuals?

Say, Dave, could you give us a couple of examples of what might put us in the dog-house so we may avoid bringing down wrath upon us? It would be appreciated.

I know!

Any time you go to a website, your visits are logged. Virtually every website captures your IP address and counts unique hits made to each page there, along with the IP address of each person who visited. As far as possible offenses go, we'll probably be pointed toward the Terms of Service for the answer to that.

What if you're not always at the same IP address?

Countless times have members come to me in amazement at what a safe and friendly atmosphere DG is, and they wanted to thank me for creating this.

And I appreciate the gratitude that I hear, primarily because it's no accident that DG is friendly and safe. We work very hard at keeping it friendly and safe.

Take this one, for example. I didn't have a problem with Pala (in fact, we exchanged several very friendly emails shortly after current events was taken offline) until she started spreading her stuff outside of the Current Events forum. She posted a clearly political message in the Prayer Forum, and then there's all the attacks against me in this forum.

But I've put up with it because I want to be fair and give her every opportunity to turn the situation around.

In the meantime, I did place her into my alert system, which keeps me abreast of her actions on the site, notifies me of any posts that she makes, and, as everyone knows, disables her editing ability.

That was yellow alert, (type 2) and that was the alert she was always under (Starting a couple days ago, when she started the problems here in the DG Forum).

Who else is under yellow alert? Nobody.

mysql> select * From member_alerts;
+------+------+
| user | type |
+------+------+
| Pala | 2 |
+------+------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

Pala is currently the only lucky member in my alert system.

Ulrich: To answer your question about how to get into my alert system: You can consistently disregard the rules in the Acceptable Use Policy, and then bitterly complain and argue about my enforcement of the same. By that point, I will begin to feel like you may be a danger to this community and I'll need to keep a close eye out for your activity. That's a yellow alert.

dave

I still do not understand why I have been under your alert system, red or yellow or otherwise. I was having the same editing problems as Pala, but I am not now, so I am assuming the restriction to editing has been lifted. If that is the case, I appreciate it. However, I have no idea why I was placed there to begin with.

I received no notice that I had, in some way, crossed a line. I have not been argumentative or begun rebellions. I've spoken when I thought something needed to be said, and I backed away when it obviously was not well-received. I can't imagine a time I have viciously attacked anyone on this site. The Garden is a place I come to visit with friends and learn about plants.

In another post, concerning the demise of the Current Events Forum, within my post I said, "I'm afraid I might be among the 50% of the people Dave doesn't agree with, but, to his credit, he hasn't censored me or censured me here in the Garden." Was I in error, Dave? Why was my editing ability disabled? Why have you not told me that is the case or reassured me that it is not?

I, for one, would like to be informed when I am treading on dangerous ground. I would like to be told when I am on some sort of alert system. I would like to be told by email so that I am not publicly humiliated.Ulrich was quite right to ask what the rules are. I have read your answer and I still am unsure, since I thought I was abiding by those rules. Yes, trust is an important issue, and once damaged I can see the need to rebuild it. I hope this issue can be resolved and I can trust again.

Weezin: You said:

I still do not understand why I have been under your alert system, red or yellow or otherwise.

My response:

I still do not understand why you are assuming that you were under an alert. I do not recall that you ever got verification from me that you were.

History shows that I am always honest with people, and when they confront me with something, I will give an honest answer. You have yet to send me one single E-mail about this, and you have not directly asked if you were ever under an alert.

Nevertheless, I will take the initiative here and tell you this: No, to the best of my knowledge, you have never been under an alert (yellow, red, or otherwise) on any of my sites. That would mean that if you ever experienced any trouble editing any posts, then it was a glitch in the system, or a user error (both are possible).

I hope this helps to clear up the confusion on your part. Next time, I also hope that before making assumptions, you will come to me to verify your suspicions before turning them into an attack against me and my policies.

There's an underlying point to this, however, and I will address that in a new thread later today.

Dave

Dave, you consider my post an attack? Please let me know what I have said that was an attack. No, you have not notified me to tell me I am on alert, but you've already stated elsewhere that is not you policy. I quote from the thread that Zany referenced here in which you told Mimi:

"You're not the first(nor likely the last) member to be placed under alert. We've been doing it for a VERY long time and usually the member doesn't even know they are under alert. You seem to have been more perceptive than most. :)"

Before reading this, I would not have been likely to assume I was being singled out in any manner. As you can see, in my first post on this thread I assumed our editing problems were a "glitch". I had never seen the thread "My edit does;t work" until I saw the link on this thread, and I was pretty shocked. I honestly believe monitoring movements on a site is just good sense, but limiting access without notification didn't sit well with me.

I am, however, confused. You asked me to come to you before making assumptions. I have posted all my concerns and assumptions here on your forum, which seemed the logical place. It seems that by answering here in the Garden, it would answer potential concerns for others, as well. If I am in error, let me know.

Yes, bringing things up here is fine. But I never confirmed that you were (or were not) ever under alert, yet that is just the conclusion that you came to without pressing me for an actual answer.

I hope you don't feel like you were "publicly humiliated", but if you were, it wasn't by my doing.

Tornadoes are in the area, so I'm turning the 'puters off till tomorrow.

Best,
Dave

Thanks, Dave. Keep safe.

http://davesgarden.com/about/index.php?page=tos
Gee, I didn't know about that logging out bit. Other'n that I'm glad to have been such a good boy. :~)