Online journal - getting started

I think you have to move everything underneath it to a temporary category, delete the one you want to rename and then put it in with the right category name. Then move everything back.

Maybe there's an easier way to do it, but I couldn't figure it out either. So I made up some temporary categories to put the things underneath until I got the top level category fixed. Then I deleted the temporary categories.

Since you are just starting, hopefully you don't have a lot of entries below the top level category.

Thanks JoanJ, I was hoping there was some simpler solution. Oh well, I'll give it a whirl :)

LOL JoanJ, I went to do that and discovered that just down the page are some buttons to change the name of the categorey or delete it etc. So I did the change the name one and it worked like a dream. I can't have scrolled down far enough last time I was trying!
DG rocks LOL

Great! I wonder if that is a new feature since I tried to change the name of one of my categories? I have never noticed it either.

I'm glad you got it changed easier than moving everything first. :)

Yes, I couldn't believe I missed them - but then senior moments are more and more frequent LOL Perhaps they arrived in answer to my plea? Probably not.....

Anyway it is a great feature and very welcome! Thanks for your help Joan

Sorry to be so late getting here - but it looks like you solved your own mystery. I don't remember when Dave added that feature, but it is a whole lot easier than the "move everything, delete, rename and move back" method ;o)

Yes, thanks Terry
What a relief to find how easy it was

I have a Word 2003 document that conatains tables that I was hoping to add to my journal but I have been unable is there a secret? Thanks Katy

I am trying to add plants from the Plant Files to my journal. I select add to journal under actions & get a message adding plant to your journal but the plant does not get added. Do I need to enter anything in the RID or Search fields for the plant to be added?

runkrtun, I don't know the answer to your question, but I hope someone will see this that has done what you are wanting to do and post how.

caerwin, I think you need to set up some categories in your journal first, then you will be able to add plants to your journal from plantfiles. I'm not sure where they go if you don't have some categories set up first. Even if you only have two categories, perennial and annual, it gives you someplace to put the items from plantfiles. But if I were you, I'd take a look at some other people's journals here and see how they are set up and decide how you want to do yours before you add a bunch of stuff. It's just easier to have the categories right to begin with because it saves a lot of moving around later.

If you'd like, you can take a look at my journal to see how my journal is set up and what categories I have.

I just ran through the transporting an item from plantfiles to my journal and here's the steps I took, (again, this is after the categories have been set up)

1) double click 'Add To Journal' from PlantFile page

this takes you to :

2) importing to your jorunal where you choose the journal you want to put the item in. This option is in case you have more than one journal set up.

3) once you do that, it will tell you that the plant has been added, then you can select the category for it to put the plant into. (One you have already set up I think) I don't think you can set up a new category at this point.

4) Then it will tell you the plant has been moved, and you can a) go to the entry b) go to the new category or c) go to the old category. I think options b and c only apply if you are moving an item that's already in your journal from one category to another category. If you are adding an new plant to your journal from PlantFiles, then you would choose a) go to the entry.

Okay, is this clear as mud? Maybe someone has an easier way, or can explain it better.

Joan,

Nice to talk to you again. I see you have earned the prestigious Title as UBER. Congratulations.

I also have this problem. I did one just now. It registered in the journal but when it offered me my categories under the North journal it said I had none (No categories found!). I believe I have 6 categories under that Journal.

Thanks, Linda

I just found where the Daylily entry went. It did go to my North Journal but ended up in my unknown status. Here is the URL: http://davesgarden.com/journal/edit/viewbystatus.php?status=0

This message was edited Feb 12, 2006 8:43 AM

Hi Linda, nice to see you again too. It seems that the larger this site gets, the less I bump into people I know. Thanks for the congrats too. :)

When you add something to your journal, it defaults to the unknown status until you go back to that entry and change the status, whether it be growing in the garden, dead, not yet planted or whatever you choose. Do you already have your statuses set up?

As far as the message 'no categories found' when you have 6 set up, I don't know the answer to that. I tried to take a look at your journal to see, but you must not have it set for public viewing. Maybe Terry will be along and can answer that one better.

Joan,
Thank you for the help. Last night I finally got plants added to my journal from the Plant Files. One thing I have not figured out is how to add a hyperlink to the Plant File to the journal entry. I have noticed others who were able to do this in their journals. I also need to learn how to add a picture in the Plant File to my journal. I am not having any trouble adding my own pictures to the journal. I am having trouble getting the journal to print with my pictures. I am getting an error. I have taken high resolution 5 megapixel picutures. Is it possible the pictures I am using are too large (2578x1932)? I turned off windows firewall but this does not seem to make a difference.

If you add the plant to your journal from PlantFiles "Add this plant to your journal" link, it should automatically put the PlantFile link in your journal entry. It didn't?

If you have plants already in your journal and just want to add a hyperlink to the PlantFiles entry, you can hightlight the url in plantfiles, right click and copy, and then go to your journal entry and rightclick and paste it in your initial comments area, or as an additional entry.

I can get the link in the journal by cutting and pasting it manually but I still can't get the link added automatically. Where should the link show up when the entry is viewed if the link is automatically added from the PF?

I added one to test and this is how it shows up for me when I am managing my own journal. It doesn't show up like this if I just go into view journals and pick my own. In other words, you can see your journal differently in manage your own journal than I can see your journal in view journals.

This is what the plant I added to my journal looks like right after I added it, but the Mirabilis jalapa shows up as a link in my journal, where it doesn't here.

Common name: Four O'Clock, Marvel of Peru (85231)
Genus: Mirabilis
Species: jalapa

Journal: Joan's Garden Journal
Category: Annual Flowers: 2005
Status: Unknown

Initial Comments:

There are 0 entries for this item.

Add an entry to this item.
Add a milestone to this item.
Edit this item.
Clone this item.
Delete this item.
Move this item to another category.
Move this item to another journal.
Copy this item to your tradelist.
Print this item (with images).
Print this item (without images).
External View.
Journal Homepage.
This plant is in the PlantFiles!

* Mirabilis jalapa

Joan,
I did not realize the journal was closed off. I opened it. I could not find out how to do it. I kept looking for it under 'My Info' and 'Extras'. I finally found it on my journal's front page. DUH!!

Since changing it I found that it will take me to the categories. I do not know how the categories and the open viewing are connected but it has solved my problems.

Thanks,Linda

Glad that helped Linda. I am not sure how having the journal open or closed would make the difference, but it obviously does. I think that may be the problem that caerwin may be having too.

Caerwin, try making sure that your journal is open for public viewing, and then go into your journal under the manage your journal tab and see if the link is there then.

Hello! I have a journal imaginitively titled 2005 Garden Journal. I wanted to clone the entire journal into a new journal titled, 2006 Garden Journal, which I can then edit, but I can't seem to do it. Am I better off simply changing the status on plants which died or were eaten by deer etc.?

Thanks,

Michael

I had that same plan but couldn't figure out a way to do it, besides cloning each individual entry that I wanted to copy and then moving the clone to the new journal, and that would have taken way too much time. But I'd love to hear if someone else has figured it out!

Okay, having a similar problem as above when trying to add a plant from the plantfiles to my default journal. When I had another journal up, only if I put the plant in the NON default journal, would it then give me the option of putting it in a catagory. Problem was, NONE of the catagories were in the second journal. All in default. So I moved everything to Default, deleted the other journal, and now can't seem to get anything over. Help???

Michael and ecrane3, if you go into the journal you want to clone, then go to manage journals, there's a link to where you can 'click here to learn how to move one journals contents to another journal'. Then it will ask you which journal contains the contents you want to move, and which journal you want to move the contents to. Try that and see if it works.

desert_witch, I'm not sure I understand, so please bear with me while I try. You moved everything to your default journal and deleted the other journal, right? So, now you have all your catagories set up in your default journal? And you can't add a plant from PlantFiles into your default journal? Am I understanding this right?

desert_witch, I now understand what you are talking about. I just tried to import a plant from PlantFiles into my default journal, and couldn't do it. I can,however, import a plant into any of my other journals. I don't know why you can't do it into the default journal.

Try setting up a new jounal, and doing what I told Michael and ecrane3 to do in the post above to import the information from your default journal into the new journal. See if that works.

Desert witch,

If you scroll through earlier posts in this thread you'll find a number of other people have had the same problem--for some reason the import feature from Plant Files doesn't work with your default journal, you have to set up a new journal and import the plants into it instead.

Joan,

I know how to move things from one journal to another; what I wanted to do was make a new journal for this year that would start with all the same entries from last year's journal (but I wanted to keep everything in last year's journal too) and then I could add new stuff as I got it. The only way I can figure out how to do this is to clone all the entries, then move them and that would take way too much time. It's not a big deal now though--I'm probably going to be moving within ~6 months so I'm going to wait until I have the new place and start a new journal for it.

Okay, I see, and if you move it, it doesn't stay in that journal. Maybe Dave could whip up a program that would allow us to clone a journal.

Joan, and ecrane,
The problem with simply adding another journal is that When I was importing plantfiles into the new journal, only the catagories from the default journal appear. I'm soooo confused!

Hmmm....I'm confused now too. Did you set up new catagories in the new journal that are different from the ones in your default journal?

Hopefully Terry will stop in sometime. She's the wizard at journals. Or you could click on the contact us link below and ask if she can take a look at it when she gets a chance.

Which journal were you in last before you started trying to import? For some reason it will always show you the categories from the last journal you were viewing and will import to that journal even if you tell it to put things into a different journal. So before you import, always go to the journal page and make sure you select the journal you want to import stuff into, then when you go to PF and import it should show you the right categories and your plants will end up in the right place.

Okay!! That's the problem, then! So, can I clone the old journal? Or will I have to recreate my custom catagories and them move everything by catagory?

Take a look back at the first part of Joan's post from 3/25 at 11:25 PM--she gives some directions there for how to move things from one journal to another. I've never moved things from one journal to another so don't know whether you'll need to recreate your categories or not.

Joan, Thanks for your post from 3/26. But unless I missed something, the directions seem to allow me move an entire journal's contents but not to clone them to a new journal. I would like to clone the contents, not move them, so that I can keep the previous year's journal as a record while having a new journal that is not cluttered up with entries that are no longer relevant. I understand if this isn't possible on DG, but hope this clarifies what I was trying to do. Thanks again, Michael

Michael, I believe you are correct about my instructions. It is to move an entire journal, not clone it. I misunderstood what was being asked.

It doean't appear to me that you can clone a journal, unless I'm missing something. You could ask on the Dave's Garden forum, and maybe Dave or Terry can tell you for sure. If it's not possible, Dave might even add it to his To-Do list. :)

Rendering---What does this mean. I have built journels but there are no coloums to the right as described in the instructions.

Could you look at my journal and see what is wrong? I have tried to work with it but I never get a chart on the right side of my screen like I see everyone else have to fill in. thanks

budzy, I just took a look at your journals. The only category I could find that you have set up is in your Flower Garden Journal, and you have the category tree.

If you click on tree, it should tell you that there are no entries yet, and have a "Click here to add a new item" That's if you want to add all your different trees in that category.

Or, you could add subcategories under tree to place your different trees. In the main menu of your journal, click on tree, then add subcategories like conifers, elms, or whatever. Then once you have the categories and subcategories set up, you can start adding the trees.

To add the trees to the category, go back to Access By Category and you can add the trees by clicking on the category you want to put the tree in, whether it be just under the category 'tree', or if you created specific subcategories under the category 'tree', you can choose which subcategory to put it in. Click on the category you want to put the entry into and you will see a blue "Click here to add new item under this category.

That's were you will fill in the information on the specific tree you are wanting to add to your journal. Once you add an entry, then you will be able to see the chart with the information for the entry.

Make sense?

I am still trying to get the hang of this journal. For the newbie in town it is not very user friendly :( however, I do realize that over time it might become easier to handle and use. So, until then could someone explain to me how to get the TODO list status going. I posted a Future ideas Category which is my TODO list for now. I would like to change the status of my entries to TODO not Unknown.

Also, I was wondering if this web site set up was easy to edit change and modify. I would really like it if when I logged on, I went staight to my Info page instead of getting the Welcome page. If I went staight to my info. then it would feel more personalized. You know something like "MY Yahoo web page". Giving me instant access to my mail, journals, threads I am watching and have posted, with reply notices to my questions and threads, ect. Just a thought.

Well, if you canhelp with the TODO question, or have a comment for me please send it Dmail so I can see how that works.(I have yet to experience this, I am new to the community as of 04/30/06.

Thanks to all

You can customize how your home page looks. Click on "My Info", then "Manage Preferences", then "Customize Home Page" and it will let you pick what you want to see on your home page and in what place on the page.

As far as your to do list, it is not a status. A status is something you create, for example I have statuses for planted in garden, planted in container, removed from garden, etc--you can make them whatever you want. The way the to do list works is that once you have entered a plant, you can go to that plant, click on "add". You'll get a screen that asks for the date, what type of entry this is, and then a blank box to add whatever comments you want. The "what type of entry is this" is where you can choose for it to be a to do item.

I highly recommend that you read through the previous posts in this thread--I know it's long but there are lots of good tips and tricks along the way. And you can take a look at other members journals too to get ideas of how other people do things.

Also, I looked at your journal, and based on what you have in there now I almost wonder if you wouldn't be happier using the Garden Diary for this information instead? I find the journal to be most useful when you have specific plants in your garden that you want to keep track of things about them individually. The garden diary is more friendly for general thoughts, plans, etc on your garden which seems to be what you have in your journal entries. You can of course use things however you want, but for example in your vegetables entry, you have in your comments that you have 6 corn, etc planted--the way I would use the journal would be to create an entry for corn, an entry for squash, an entry for tomatoes, etc, then you can add comments to the individual plants. Then you could also have a place in your garden diary where you could add comments on the vegetable garden as a whole.

Hope that helps!

THank you ecrane3 for the help. much appreciated. and I will check out the Garden Diary when I get a chance. I have to go to work now, when I get a break I will check it out.

I am stuck on step 3 with no list of any type and can't go forward, could someone help me figure out what I am doing wrong so that I can try to start my journal. Thanks

sumer, can you tell me exactly what you mean by step 3?