same way as the photo forum. there are only a couple of forums where you can. Photos, landscaping, ID and here.
log cutting
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Thank you MVR for bumping up this thread. I missed it last year.
It is a good way to get new and well rooted cuttings.
there is a method we'd use for propagating trees called 'trench layering' this works well to.
I have a rare jungle vine I also grow in this log cuttings way. My customer demand is higher than my supply, so one node cuttings do nicely, just bury half the node, one side the roots go down, one side a shoot goes up.
drew
When I root cuttings I like them short and stubby, so if the space between leaf nodes is long I trim it off. Yesterday I made a bunch of cuttings and had a small pile of node-less logs. Normally I discard these as worthless, but I was just wondering: What if I lay them flat in a bed of compost, buried just below the surface and see if these logs root. Although there are no nodes to send sprouts from wouldn't the roots themselves send up shoots? How about it? Am I wasting my time? Right now I have them soaking. I'm encouraged to try this because I've noticed that where I've planted a brug and subsequently removed it there seems to be new shoots sprouting, I think from roots that remained in the soil.
Mainfrog, they need a node to send up shoots, They will root, but not send up shoots.
Roots form nodes, so if a root node is gradually exposed to more air and light can this node put on leaf growth ????
"Inquiring Minds Want To Know"
Not in my experements scooterbug, but I could be wrong though
Thanks, BB, forthe info. I'll just toss those node-less logs into the compost heap.
Following up on tIG and Brugmansia's comments today I was in the second phase of rooting my cuttings: from the water where they've been for 1+ week and to a rooting medium of peat moss and perlite. I had several logs that I normally would have placed upright, most with 2 or three nodes and up to 1-1/2" thick. This time, however, I cut them into short logs with 1 node each and laid them side by side in 4" square pots, my container of choice. I'm optimistic of a good yield.
ok when get some cuttings i will try this and read read.. sounds so good can't wait to get plants to blooms.. so exciting-for me it will be.
*bump* thanks MaVieRose for bringing this to my attention!!!!!
This is THE WAY TO GO for me too. I have had wonderful success using this method, with both hardwood and greenwood cuttings. One additional thing that I do is put them in a sealed baggie until they are well along. It does tend to make a prettier tree. JMHO
Well now, see what you all have done. I am going to have to go out and pot up a bunch of cuttings with this new method. I have been potting up cuttings from every plant in my garden it seems. I am determined that I am going to master the art of propagating even if it means I have nothing left to cut on.
Great!!! Let's all have some fun!
Patricia -- make sure you remove all the leaves, press the cutting down in some moist potting soil and put it in a zip-lock type bag in a place that receives indirect light. Within a few days you should have roots forming and new shoots within a week.
i use the coke bottle method of propagating the log style of brug cutting propagation. the coke bottle acts like a mini green house too. keeps the humidity to hasten rooting. http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/207915/
MaVie -- I've used that way too, but:
I don't have anywhere to store the bottles while I'm saving them!!!
I like the zipper bags because they are already sterile, and I don't have to go to a lot of extra effort.
Your way works great!
Gretchen, i use used priority boxes to store the coke bottles. they are stable and if i ran out of room, i stack them up to save space. it worked wonders for me. i started some log cuttings 3 weeks ago, i see signs of life in them. i will be doing more soon. a small cutting sure goes a long way, several plants come out of one cutting. i have to improvise here due to lack of space.
years before, i use to start cuttings in one gal. pots which occupies lots of space. the coke method sure save me space and more cuttings to survive the winter season. i have lots of windows on the back patio, some of the coke bottles sits on the window sills. i do not have to worry about light or heat, cause the sun light keep them growing naturally.
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I don't think all that bumping is necessarilly moving this thread to current status. Could it be some heads being B U M P E D? Please lighten up for those of us who need to learn. LOL Jeanette
Jeanette -- this method works very well, and produces a very pretty plant -- very straight as opposed to the other way of planting which can sometimes produce a more crooked shape. I enclose them in plastic until well rooted..
Wow, how did i miss this one? Thanks for bumping it up..
Coke bottles, eh?
Jen
Ok, Kaufmann, New issue then. what do you do when they come out of plastic to keep them from losing the moisture in their leaves? Do you spray them with an anti-transpirant? If so, what?
Jeanette
Jeanette -- I gradually increase the amount of time the bag is open to fresh air before completely removing them. They sometimes will wilt anyway, but recover within a day or two. If I've learned anything ever about brugs, its that they make remarkable recoveries from their wilting spells!!!
Bringing this back up....I had to search for it...thought maybe others would find it helpful too!
I am thinking of doing this with some of my new cuttings...would give me many instead of just a few!
Anything else anyone can add to insure success?!
I have tried it many, many times, never had the first one root? What am I doing wrong???
Margie, I use a root blaster I got in Charley's catalog. I think it does help. But, let me ask you, what are you going to do with all of those plants?
Gloria, are you putting them in bags? I put them in 4" pots and set them in a gallon zip-lock and close her up. I think it takes a good 4 weeks. Are you waiting long enough? Another thing, I don't think it matters if they have light. But don't keep opening the bag and looking in it. Each time you do that you are losing that humidity of the mini-greenhouse you have created.
I am by no means an expert. I'll bet Gretchen can add some. jeanette
Jeanette...what is a root blaster??? I guess I will have to go to Charleys site and find out!
Your question "What are you going to do with all those plants?" sounds like my DH !!
Actually I thought I would help to share them with other members, as it is a brug that is not very widely in circulation. Why do you ask?
You can go to www.rootblast.com. I don't know if it works or not. Maybe they would root just as well without it.
Why do I ask? Because maybe you have a secret as to creating space where there isn't any. I thought I had used all my space. Maybe I haven't. Maybe you have discovered a recipe for cooking these poisonous plants. Maybe you have discovered a way of becoming a millionaire using them.
You should have asked me that last night.. It's too early in the morning. I might have come up with your secret just by brain storming.
LOL, have a good one. Jeanette
btw, what is the name of it. Maybe I could use one.
Jnette, please don't try cooking brugs...it's kind of dangerous lololol *cheers* with your coffee, I'm having mine now :-D
If you have a yard...you have room lolol...you would be surprised of how much you can plant with just an acre or even a half an acre! It's all a part of being a 'brugaddict' lol It's just a preference, to each his own sorta thing.
PC, that is such a lovely thought and I'm sure, like me, everyone thinks the same...
Have a Very Merry Christmas!
Julie
Jeanne...HO, HO, HO...I couldn't find the root blaster on Charlies...and I had pictured a blaster, a piece of equipment to blast the roots and make more babies! I just checked out your link, thanks...
BrugAddict...actually I could use some assistance in finding/making room for all of my brugs. So far they are all in containers. The spot were I was going to have a brug forest, I ended up using for my little GH ! I was going to start a new post to try and gather up ideas!
My cuttings are green cuttings, so I don't know if they would be good to try and root log style...or if it matters that they are green! Does anyone know? I don't want to try it if it is domed to fail!
I started about 30 green and tip cuttings log style and every single one rooted. I placed them on moistened potting soil and pressed them in about 1/2 way, put them in a sealed zipper bag in the shade and left them alone until they rooted, at which time I removed them from the baggy. Easiest way for me, and it produces a very nicely shaped plant.
Gretchen...so I wouldn't put them under lights...and maybe on a electric pad? Just wondering now that it is cooler outdoors! Sounds like I could put them in the GH which doesn't get down below 37 or so, ???
Margie -- you could put them under cool lights. I started all those in August... I would not put them on heat though. I started some other cuttings (the regular way) in the GH last month and they did fine. Just stuck them in dirt and they all took off. No baggie, no bottom heat... I have become a firm believe that if they're meant to be, you'll be blessed with a rooted healthy plant. If not........I have three right now that I'm trying to start the conventional way -- one in the GH and two inside under lights. I really hope they take... And I wish you great luck on yours. Try a couple of different ways to find what works best for you. I like to do different things. We learn that way, too.
Good advice,they are pretty tough,if meant to grow they will.
I will be doing more as log cuttings.
Hey Root, those are super healthy plants!! Now are you going to leave them "as is" and have a bush, shrub? Or will you cut them in two and have more than one plant?
Jeanette
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Thank you, Scooterbug :-)