Plant It and They Will Come 4 Monarch Pollinator Life Cycles

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

way to go, Coleup!

well, I am enjoying my cats, even though they are relatively small in number. ;-)

Today was glorious: I watched 2 Monarch cats pupate, 1 BST cat pupate, and 1 BST cat shed his skin and become a larger instar. Boy, he came out of his molting trance hungry!!

Photo of one of the Monarch cats pupating.
Also uploaded the Monarch and BST pupating to Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a4cVQVrJSs&feature=em-upload_owner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukeg6tk4jY&feature=em-upload_owner

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Vienna, VA(Zone 7a)

I can't open the links; it says I have to log in.

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Me neither...

I have another question. Pupate means becoming a pupa--right/
A pupa is that green thing it hangs around in--right?
HOW does the cat accomplish that, I mean where does the green covering
that will make it a pupa come from?
Does the cat do it itself--or does it just happen?
Do you actually see the cat doig something to become a pupa?

I am the forever curious type...Gita

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

Sorry! I had them listed as 'private' so I changed the setting to 'unlisted' so now these links should work:

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=jukeg6tk4jY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukeg6tk4jY

As far as I can tell, what happens when the caterpillar turns into a chrysalis is that the outer skin peels off and reveals a chrysalis beneath the skin. So, the last molting reveals the chrysalis. It would be cool to insert some tiny microscopic camera into the caterpillar's skin to watch what happens beneath the skin when they make that final transformation.

Just before they pupate, they do a *lot* of wriggling around. They also empty their guts a final time. Then, they sort of straighten out and go rigid, and then the final skin peels off beginning at the head. They sort of keep wriggling out of the skin until it's finally left as a shred at their feet, then it sort of gets kicked off by the wriggling, and voila they are a chrysalis! Then they seem to secrete a second greenish layer which thickens the chrysalis.

Anyway, the links should work now! :-)

Vienna, VA(Zone 7a)

That's so neat! I liked your video; the music was a very nice touch.
The first link didn't work, but the second one did.

Damascus, MD(Zone 7a)

Cat, thank you for the video. The transformation is fascinating.

Judy, I will dig up some Agastache for you. There is a low area in my garden which might be more moist than other areas. It is not terribly sunny though. Plants can get a few hours of morning sun. Will Swamp MW grow there?




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Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

thanks, Muddy and Donner--glad you liked the video!

Muddy, so one of the links still did not work? (Sigh) Okay, I was not thorough enough, so this time I tried to be more thorough. ;-) Here is the Monarch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a4cVQVrJSs&feature=em-upload_owner

Here is the BST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukeg6tk4jY&feature=em-upload_owner

Hope they both work this time!!! (fingers crossed)

:-)

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

one male and one female emerged and released this morning
8^D

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

Woohoo Sally! Congrats!

I found 2 more BST cats on my parsley this morning!

Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

Coleup: On which plants are you finding most of your hundreds of eggs? Chrysalises?

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

An update on the eggs and cats from Judy:

2 eclosed and released
21 pupae
12 cats evident in front cage, and more in the second.

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Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Amazing pictures, David!

You all are going bonkers!!! Gita

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

I'm just passing the photos along, Sandy Lockhart is the foster parent.

Vienna, VA(Zone 7a)

They both worked this time, CatMint. What an amazing process!

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

Thanks so much for passing on the info and photos, David! Many thanks also to Sandy Lockhart! Those look like fabulous butterfly habitats. I need to get one with a side door instead of the top-door thing I have...

Found 2 more BST cats on my parsley this morning! 5th Monarch cat is hanging in his J position, getting ready to pupate, and 4 BST cats still munching on parsley and fennel.

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

Thanks, Muddy! :-) Even my daughter has gotten into it more since watching! She has names now for all the cats and looks at them each day.

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Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

The third one here will go in the morning

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

third chrysalis, another girl

annapolis, MD(Zone 7b)

That's fabulous Sally! Be sure to give them 4 - 5 hours for their wings to harden pre release. Also, when you release where do you let them go? I've been letting mine crawl on to some zinnias that are sheltered from wind (like yesterday) but get some sun. Some fly off immediately and some stay put for an hour or two. Don't know why....

I am told that some of those now eclosing will be early migrators and otherers will stay to breed and lay eggs for another generation. Maybe you will be inspired to collect new eggs and hand raise them. This will protect from predators (caterpillars one finds are more likely to be infected with OE or parisitized with Tachnid fly larva which is not detectable readily until pupation or eclosure so they should be kept separate from each other and those raised from eggs in more sterile environment). Also, hand raising any eggs you find now gives the best chances for maturing as quickly as possible as we can keep them warmer in the house than outside temps are likely to be in the next three to four weeks. We can make sure they get as fat as possible for the long trek ahead!

If you can't commit to egg rearing, if you will collect them between now and Swap, I'm sure there will be several swap atendees who are ready and willing to foster them. The eggs need very little care between now and Swap. Just put them in a tupperware like container with a tight fitting lid on the leaves they were laid on. If any hatch, just put them and their leaf in a second container as they will eat the unhatched eggs! Look for eggs same places where we found them on our visit.

Catmint and Green thumb, maybe there is a way to get some Loudoun Willdlife rearing cages and at least one Raising Butterflies book to the Swap?

Wonder if the Obama's, Govs and Mayors, would like a relase of a kaleidoscope of Monarchs?

I pass by the MD Ag Dept every day, but there is only one lonely MW plant nearby...so far!

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

I have one large rearing cage (new) and one Raising Monarchs book on hand. I'll see if I can get more cages and find out the price before Saturday.

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

thanks, Greenthumb!

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

The large rearing cages (seen in the first photo I posted above) are $15 each, the smaller ones are $10. Smaller ones are about half the length of the large ones. Told they are available for me to pick up. Need to know how many I need to bring.

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

What a terrific price! Does the small one also have a side door?

Thanks so much Greenthumb! Boy are my cats gonna love this!

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

Checked and found out that the small cages have their doors on the side too. I will be picking up the cages Thursday evening, so I need to know how many are desired.

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

Thanks so much Greenthumb. I'll take a small one! :-)

Vienna, VA(Zone 7a)

I'll take a large one; thanks!

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Saw ONE cat on my Parsley. I was picking a lot of parsley to chop and dry.
Saw a Swallowtail cat. Picked it off with the parsley it was on and transferred
it to my big pit of Flat Leaf parsley. Not sure it will like it as much--as this parsley is
long gone to bloom and looks ratty.
Brought my bunch of parsley in and a small Instar (~1/2") feel out on the counter.
Picked it up anf took it outside and put it on the same parsley as the other one.

SO--My contribution to posterity.......Gita

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

Just found this: "Syngenta asks EPA to raise tolerance level for 'bee-killing' chemical, "

"Breaking news: A massive pesticide company has just asked the U.S. government to increase the legal limit for its bee-killing pesticides by 4000%.
That’s right. Four. Thousand. Percent.
Bees are already facing a massive global die-off. This could be a death sentence for millions more bees.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is accepting public input on the decision for the next 27 days. So we're urgently working to organize beekeepers and the public to speak out against this devastating bee-killing proposal."
http://www.eenews.net/stories/1060005321

Click on the link below to sign a petition:
http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/o/50865/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=13999

Vienna, VA(Zone 7a)

CatMint, thanks for the links! Unless I missed something, though, it seems it's too late to sign the petition: it says the deadline was May 23rd.

On the good news front, one of my caterpillars has formed a chrysalis and the others are hanging out on the top of the cage (not in the J position, though).

Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Yesterday I was walking around the yard enjoying some one on one time with the gardens (Lol) and I saw a bunch of butterflies (?) hitting up our zinnias. When I would get close to look at them they would fly away though so I sat down in the grass under our Loblolly and watched them for ten minutes or so. It was nice and there were honeybees and bumble bees flying about too. I snapped a couple pics.

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Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

Catmint: Both of the chemicals you refer to appear to be neonicotionids -- given the bad press those have gotten of late, and how widely they are already used, I would hope EPA would not extend their use. Do you know what happened to that government action?

Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

Looks lush and beautiful, sequoia!

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

Sequoia, the butterfly in your photos is a Painted Lady.

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

good question, Happy. I'll see if I can find out. Muddy--I didn't notice that about the deadline. However, it did let me submit it anyway! :-D

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Seq- I like those little Zinnias, but keep forgetting that when it's time to buy annuals.

Skippers absolutely mobbing my Sedums

Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Thanks for the ID David. I looked it up and that sure does look like them. I had counted 5 of them enjoying the zinnias. It was pretty cool.

Sally, these zinnias are going to be my new 'go to' annual. Their performance this year has been stunning. The rabbits tend to avoid, they might need water their first week after planting, they grow fast, and constantly bloom all summer. Occasionally you'll see a gold finch eating seeds as well. Hands down, their performance for me crushes vinca, petunia, etc.

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

thanks David, I see those, and buckeyes

thanks Jeff, -- Z angustifolia, I think, to be technical

http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=a112

Salem Cnty, NJ(Zone 7b)

LOVE those zinnias!!!!

Lititz, PA(Zone 6b)

Yup, that's the critter. Fairly bullet proof. Anyway, I'm probably not going to buy an vinca, marigold, or petunia next year as these out perform all in our yard.

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 7a)

My 1st Monarch eclosed this morning--yay! Anyone know whether it's a male or a female?

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