...in Cincinnati.
Established almost 170 years ago, Spring Grove Cemetery has a long tradition of significant and well-kept plantings. An early example of the rural landscape cemetery style in the Ohio River valley region, Spring Grove is not only a serene final resting place for generations, but it is also an assemblage of fine architecture in its monuments and mausoleums, and an educational collection of trees and shrubs recognized with arboretum status.
I took a walk there Thursday.
It is still a little early for much color after this long cold winter, and few deciduous plants were showing any signs of emergence. The conifers, however, were holding court in their stately and always elegant manner.
1. One Calocedrus decurrens stands defiantly upon a hilltop, with half of one of its former full-sized mates to the left. A long-time third partner perished in 2008 due to the remnants of Hurricane Ike.
2. A newer member of the tribe, this is a Picea koyamae recently transplanted from the cemetery's nursery.
3. Cunninghamia lanceolata var. glauca has gutted it out through a demanding winter - somewhat browned, but never downed.
4. Despite the gray day, Pinus bungeana displays its colorful patchwork of flaking bark - this one at the burial site of famed conifer enthusiast Stanley Rowe.
5. The trunk of a pendulous Pinus sylvestris stretches toward the heavens.
Contemplative Conifers...
These are great pics and I learned a few new species. Thanks for sharing!
Lovely trees and pictures, thanks.
I've been meaning to get to Spring Grove for about ten years now, but just hasn't worked out for me. I will get there eventually. Are the plants reasonably well labeled?
Picea koyamae is new to me. The picture of this spruce in your first posting appears to be about 20' and somewhat gaunt. Was that your impression and was it moved due to lack of sun? The American Conifer Society website has this: "Koyama spruce only known from a single stand of around 100 trees in Honshu, Japan, on Mount Yatsuga-dake." I think that would qualify as being rare.
Thanks so much for the Conifer education, really nice!
That calocedrus decurrens is pretty awesome. Any idea on the height of it?
Mmm, was P. b. 'Rowe Arboretum' selected from this tree by chance?
I wonder if Lacebark Pine is popular in China? How about Paperbark Maple? Some of you will no doubt disagree with me (perhaps all), but from an aesthetic point, they seem like one trick ponies. Sour grapes? Possibly...
Here is a closeup of the same tree in each of the full view Calocedrus decurrens images above.
The taller fellow is about 6 feet tall. The top of his head is about at the lower extent of the foliage on the tree. Use that scale on one of the full view images, and approximate the height of the tree from that.
Check back with your results, and we'll compare notes.
Beuerlein! I hope everything is well with Scott.
VV: I'm going with 75'. What'd you come up with?
I wonder if Lacebark Pine is popular in China?
Yes; some very famous old specimens, too:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:White_Robe_General_in_Tuancheng,_Beihai_Park.jpg
Oh, and worth reading the plaque (just possible):
This tree was planted during the Jin Dynasty (1115-1234)
Anyone else know of any other planted trees with a history that long??
Resin
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That's bloody blinding Resin!
I'm digging that Calocedrus decurrens too, my guess is 120'.
There's a PA state champion specimen of Calocedrus Decurrens at Longwood Gardens. I think it's 98' tall.
Wow, I wouldn't want that job. I'm sure that if you were a bonsai expert though, you'd be chomping at the bit to get to take care of that specimen.
I've been in a comtemplative mood of late, and I was wondering what pines Resin would plant if he found himself in a situation that required it. Knowing how scholarly plantsmen sometimes view such questions (dimly), he may opt to completely avoid it. I can appreciate that, but of course I don't agree with it. :-) So, Resin...
I've been in a comtemplative mood of late, and I was wondering what pines Resin would plant if he found himself in a situation that required it. Knowing how scholarly plantsmen sometimes view such questions (dimly), he may opt to completely avoid it. I can appreciate that, but of course I don't agree with it. :-) So, Resin...
If I had the space, and soil and climate for it, I'd plant one (well, 3 or 4 at least!) of each of the ~115-120 species ;-)
Resin
I have not seen anything even close to being that old, but I did see a bonsai specimen at the National Arboretum last summer from 1625.
If I remember rightly, that was a gift from Japan to the USA on the occasion of the 1976 US bicentenary . . . a little dig to a new nation by giving them a potted plant 150 years older than the nation ;-)
Resin
I would expect Resin is well on his way to completing that planting - as space, soil, and climate permits - and the first accessions were provenance to begin the restoration of the ancient Caledonian forest...
It's gotten late and now I have no choice but to read about the ancient Caledonia forest. Damn you ViburnumValley.
If I remember rightly, that was a gift from Japan to the USA on the occasion of the 1976 US bicentenary . . . a little dig to a new nation by giving them a potted plant 150 years older than the nation ;-)
I find gift giving between nations and national leaders interesting. I see Queen Elizabeth II gave Pope Francis a bottle of whisky on their first meeting (her 7th pope). I like that, but what really spoke to me was President Obama's gift to the pope: a seed chest.
What do you suppose would happen to this Japanese White Pine if it was planted out? I'm guessing it wouldn't last long.
What do you suppose would happen to this Japanese White Pine if it was planted out? I'm guessing it wouldn't last long.
It would start growing at normal growth rate and turn into a full-size tree. It would then last about as long as the species normally does in normal growing environments, and subjected to the normal hazards of tree life. My guess if planted in DC, it would succumb to either a hurricane, or else to root rot, in maybe 100 years or so - or maybe much less if it gets pine wilt disease.
Resin
Has an almost 400 year-old bonsai Japanes White Pine ever been planted out? Are you really sure that's the way it would play out?
Wow.
For a guy from the wilds of wooly white Wisconsin hinterlands, you got a bucketload of skepticism...
I think a dose of skepticism can be a good thing. If I were a betting man, I'd certainly go with Resin's view; it would be foolish not to. I'm just wondering if a plant that has been sitting in a flat container for more than three centuries wouldn't struggle mightily if thrown to the elements. I obviously don't know, but is there anything wrong with questioning it? It would be interesting to know what the staff at the National Arb would have to say about it. BTW, congratulations to UK on their win over the Badgers. Great game.
I think my mom's (UW grad, class of '53) brain exploded...
I'm very pleased with the Conifer report and discussion.
I wish I could say the same about UK vs. Conn...
Since this thread is hopelessly off track anyway,
I have to point out that I'll be at the UConn/UK game tonight.
I've been to every final 4 for the last 20+ years!
Lucky you! BTW, what the heck is a Billiken? OK -- back to comtemplative conifers.
Methinks Weerobin is an NBA agent...
Wow weerobin! That is impressive.
I can lay claim to only one final four. Any guesses? I was a freshman undergrad...
Dang, the only thing I did is play in it. ;)
Here's one to contemplate. This white pine has lost about 1/3 of its canopy over the past three winters, with about 80% of that coming in the past year. It lost two more large branch clusters, which made me feel sick. I've now had a chance to stand back and admire it for what it is: Pinus 'fastigiata' from the wrong side of town. No, it's a plant that has had more than its share of bad things happen. Wouldn't it be interesting to see how it will play out?
All part of nature! I'd be more annoyed if some vandal had done it with a chainsaw.
And you have a nice big bunch of fresh pine-scented foliage to put in vases around the house, an extra christmas to enjoy ;-)
Resin
i was just thinking that a chain saw would make it fine outdoor firewood.
they all loose branches to wind and snow damage - I like the look of the bark - just hard to keep them clean with the branch remnants hanging around until they fall off.
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