Ripped up the dead rice bean plants in a raised bed and plopped a half dozen indeterminate tomato plants in their spot last nite. The trellis is already up. As always, gardening on the run. I finished that up right at dusk last nite. I also took cuttings of another tomato to try for fall cuttings. The blessed moles have moved into one of the raised beds, now what to do?
I'm still harvesting enough tomatoes to eat, harvesting okra daily, drying herbs and saving seeds.
Was up with you?
STARTING OUR 2012 FALL/WINTER VEGGIE GARDENS
Pod, do you have a gun you could use on those moles?? LOL
I've been lurking and reading. Got kinda slow for a while. I sowed 3 Northern Giant Cabbage seed. The seed was very expensive. I think I want to let one go to seed if the worms don't eat it first.....but I am assuming it won't go to seed until spring of next year. I have never had any cabbage to go to seed. Don't they bust open in the middle and send up flower shoots?
Kinda sorta...in the spring, when it gets warm. You're right about keeping the worms away, though, cause they'll dessimate a cabbage down to a lace doily.
The almanac says my region will be cooler about 4 weeks sooner than normal. I am starting my Fall cole crops 4 weeks early. I started my Fall tomato plants the same time I always do and hoping they are able to produce this fall but they will be in a greenhouse and only growing 1/3 of what I normally grow.
Sowed some bush green beans in a table top garden to get a late harvest.
I am also putting a shade structure over a 4ft x 4ft table top garden bed to start lettuce and carrots early. The shade will cool the soil down and help them germinate. Right now the shade is a burlap sack. When they germinate, I will put regular shade cloth over the bed.
I have all my regular cabbage, broc, and cauliflower in the mail. Waiting on my broccoli raab and purple cauliflower.
Pulled out the dried up pea vines and really should sow the fall peas now.
Ok, I planted some of the peas. Planted Green Arrow garden peas, Swiss Giant Snow Peas and Sugar Star Sugar Snap Peas.
I still have Norli, Super Sugar Snap, Mammouth Melting, and Cascadia Peas to plant. I seem to have two packs of Mamouth Melting, one said Snap Peas and the other said Snow Peas so I am confused. Better not plant those two together.
Gezz, and here I thought I was doing so well planting my peas!
Yes, poofed today which is why I didn't plant more peas. Maybe tomorrow.
Well... I'm poofed and tried too but it's from going to work today. lol
Sounds like y'alls typing fingers are sure getting sleepy .
Stephanie ~ I was thinking a hand grenade or flame thrower on the moles maybe. A local gardener told me he placed castor bean seeds in the mole tunnels. The logic is the seeds are poisonous. But he said when he quit doing that, the moles returned with a vengance. Need a mole digging dog maybe... on second thought... naw. Kristi
LOL, I was poofed, tried and wurn out. Typing no better then a bicycle, two tired :0)
As much as I complain about being tired, I really do appreciate the way one plant goes out of production, another steps into its place. There's sort of a graceful rhythm to it all.
What did think of the rice beans? Did you harvest dry?
ok please ignore my junky seed stand...top are the tomatoes, second are my cole crop seeds.
Does anyone have a good chart for planting etc for Pearland? My neighbor and I are working off two different time tables and I'm lost as to when to start seeds and transplant.
We are growing:
Tomatoes (her date Aug 31 - Mine Aug 10)
Mustard Greens (7 top?)
Turnips
Collards
Cabbage
Brussel Sprouts
Broccoli
Beets (purple and gold)
Parsnips
Fennel
Carrots
Spinach
Lettuce
Mustard
This is my seed-sowing schedule from last fall. I had a bumper crop of veggies.
My plan was to start seeds late-June to mid July to see how an early start on transplants might make a difference, but that didn't happen. I'll be starting seeds this weekend, without fail, but I'll still be two weeks ahead of last year's schedule.
Since I usually start the seeds indoors anyways, I'm going to start 1/3 of my broccoli, cauliflowers, and cabbage seeds tomorrow in the APS 15-cells which are 3-1/2" deep. I've observed that those hungry hippo transplant brassicas benefit from a well-developed root system, and the deep cells give me a good root ball. You'll get the same from your water bottles. I've seen whole community gardens around Houston with almost full-size heads of cabbage by mid-September! So that means they HAD to start seeds indoors somewhere, at least by the beginning of June. I didn't make that time frame this year, but...
Here's my schedule from last year:
8/6 & 8/7/11: I sowed seeds for broccoli, cauliflower, cabbages, Chinese cabbage, Brussels Sprouts, mustards & collard greens
9/2/11: potted them up to the drinking water bottles
9/17/11: hardening off for 9 days
9/29/11: Everything transplanted to the garden
My schedule was off several weeks because I thought it was too hot for the seedlings to be transplanted out. This season I'll make that adjustment, and get them out for hardening off at 4-5 weeks, and transplanted out by week 6 or 7 (or whenever they get at least 5-6 true leaves).
Since I'm using a deep-root cell, I'm not going to have to pot up the seedlings at all. I've observed that the hungry hippo brassicas transplants benefit from a larger root ball, and Ill get nice ones since I'm using the APS deep root cells. I also purchased floating row cover to keep the moths off the seedlings at transplant time. It'll still be warm, and they'll still be lurking.
As long as the seedlings are kept properly hydrated, they'll make it through the tail end of the heat. Once the weather starts cooling off, they'll have developed a good root system, and will take off like bullets!
Linda
Thanks, I'll give you a call this afternoon if I can, I still have to make yogurt and soup for Serg to have something to eat tonight. We've just got in him bed and I'm off to make the soup and start the yogurt and keeping my fingers crossed that the pain pill knocks him back out.
Gymgirl - my schedule is as follows:
Pak Choi - Toy Choi Hybrid (8/6/2012)
Brussels Sprouts (8/13/2012)
Peas Thomas Laxton (8/13/2012)
Kohlrabi - sweet vienna (8/13/2012)
Cauliflower Snowball Y (8/20/2012)
Broccoli - Arcadia - direct seed to garden (8/27/2012)
Beet - Detroit Dark Red (8/27/2012)
Quote from araness :
Does anyone have a good chart for planting etc for Pearland? My neighbor and I are working off two different time tables and I'm lost as to when to start seeds and transplant.
This is a pretty dependable one for all parts of the country.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/What-To-Plant-Now-July-Gulf-Coast-Gardening-Region.aspx
Do you think Pearland might have its' own issues? Kristi
LOL, Araness is 8 minutes from me. I can throw a rock and hit Pearland!
Don't you be throwing rocks at her Linda... lol
lord no, especially not today. Nursing a 40 something year old male is worse than having a sick child. How does one get to this age and STILL have wisdom teeth? Thank the stars I didn't find the bell I was going to put by the bed or I'd have murdered him and blamed it on the dentist.
I'm going to have a glass of wine and fall asleep in the tub.
LOL, Araness is 8 minutes from me. I can throw a rock and hit Pearland!
Bee, looks like we're on the same schedule! Im hoping to sow new transplants every three weeks, up until December 20th, the Winter Solstice. Then, I'll switch over to sowing the tomato seeds on December 20th, and more brassica seeds for 8 weeks to plant out again up until January 20th. That'll be the final planting for a spring garden effort .
Tomatoes WILL be in the ground by February 15th next year.
Wow...it's almost time!!!
Linda
No rocks will be thrown...
I still have all my wisdom teeth. Which is obviously why I'm wise ,LOL!!
A&M Agrilife has some decent guidelines,
General TX
https://agrilifebookstore.org/publications_details.cfm?whichpublication=1582
these are more local to the TX coast.
http://harris.agrilife.org/program-areas/hort/publications-links/veggies-herbs/
Way up North here, I like
txmg.org/wichita/files/2010/04/B-6-Vegetable-Varieties.pdf for North Central TX
I'm as old as dirt, and I still have all my wisdom teeth.
Gymgirl - I can't start tomatoes as early as you because we get frost until the end of March.
Here's my spring schedule:
Sweet pepper - Ace - indoors (3/13/2013)
Onions due this week from Dixondale (3/13/2013)
Tomato - Monica - sow indoors (3/13/2013)
Sweet Pepper - Ace - sow indoors (3/13/2013)
Quote from Gymgirl :
Tomatoes WILL be in the ground by February 15th next year.
I can't even imagine putting my tomato plants in THAT early here, as there is usually snow on the ground at that time. So many zone 8 gardens are different. Still, this year, I could have put them out earlier than I did. Last year we had a lot of late snow and rain storms as well as just cold weather. The tomatoes did not like that. Then, THIS year, we had no late storms, and I could have put mine out earlier than I did, but still not in February!!
Evelyn
Yesterday it rained all day so I got nothing done but today it is just beautiful, I got back working on my planting peas projects. First I tore out all the Spanish Mucica pole beans as I need the space for peas. Wouldn't have torn out beans for peas but I tried these beans for the first time this year and hated them. From now on will stick to Blue Lake Pole Beans which I am also growning.
Anyway, planted SUPER SUGAR SNAP and MAMMOTH MELTING SUGAR where those beans used to be. Then I planted NORLI peas in another spot. I still have CASCASIA SNAP and MAMMOUTH MELTING SNOW PEAS that are not planted yet and I don't have any engery left to do them today.
Oh, here is a sample of what I find in February.....melting after a light snowfall...
Looks about the same as around here in February.
Evelyn, I know people here in zone 7 that planted tomatoes in February this year. It was an odd spring and definitely a risk, but they were eating tomatoes a whole lot sooner than me.
February is peas & radishes time for me -- my boyfriend's favorite time of year.
Quote from NicoleC :
Evelyn, I know people here in zone 7 that planted tomatoes in February this year. It was an odd spring and definitely a risk, but they were eating tomatoes a whole lot sooner than me.
Yeah, had I known it was going to be such a mild winter, I could have put them out early as well. Next year, I will put a few out early, and if they don't kake it, I will have plenty in reserve. The funny thing is I did have plenty of seedlings as I grew a lot this year compared to most. Now I have them planted all over the place. A gopher ate my Jaune FlameŽ and that, apparantly was the only one. Oh well! ^_^
Most winters we have a heavy snowfall or several during February,
We finally had a 3 day break in the rain so that the soaked RB #2 dried out, so I spent most of the day facing it with the cedar planks I had left over from my Hurricane Ike installation . Every time I tackle one of these projects, I appreciate how hard my dear husband worked.
Now that it's finished I can finally get all the containers of pine bark off the patio. But I paid dearly last night! Between hot flashes and leg cramps I walked the floor for half the night...
And my hands are swollen. Playing the piano will be exciting today...They'll here some new notes!
This is the usual....
Oops, GG, we cross-posted...sorry!
No rain here except for a couple of sprinkles a few days ago. I have to go into Sacramento today and it will be over 100°...we wouldn't usually be going there, but to see our great-grandbaby.
GG ~ Sorry you had such a bad night. (Been there, done that!) Take care and not overdo it in the heat.
Something was digging in my newly planted peas, probably a squirrel by the looks of things. Had to go out and fix it.
Once more I will post about a surefire treatment for leg cramps Castor Oil just rub it on the cramping area VIOLA cramps gone also great for sore swollen hands rub well on hands put on a pair of cotton gloves and it works like magic as for the hot flashes I ain't going there.......
Find a solution for the hot flashes and I want to know.
The pain, well I've had to resort to PT, Chiro and acupuncture these last 6 months or so. It beats being drugged up most of the day..tried that and you can't live.
Thanks for the websites, I have those and it's what I use but I disagree with a few of the dates, I stick my tomatoes out in mid August and I'll have fried stalks within the hour.
Linda, I set my maters out last year Feb 29th and will try for a bit earlier this year. It was a fantastic yield since we had such a mild and long "Spring" and we had our best year as far as productivity. But was a bit sad when everyone else still had tomatoes and mine had already given their last.
My seedlings have a few issues this season, used a different brand of seed starting mix and it retains way to much moisture and they looked a bit sick to start. Looking up but I won't have the beautiful plants I had last spring to transplant. I'm up to 25 EB's and the 4x4 raised bed so I'm trying new things and learning what my yard likes and doesn't.
Been trying to post this pic all weekend. Something's wrong with my phone -- the NEW one...
Here's what I worked on all day Saturday. It may look like a plain old box, but I used the remaining cedar pickets from my Hurricane Ike fence and faced the outside of the pine bed so it would match the fence.
I'm kinda proud of my handiwork. My leg muscles are still hurting from all the squatting down to screw those planks on.
Linda
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