OK here's my list.
Qty: 9 American Beautyberry – Callicarpa americana
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=CAAM2
Qty: 9 Bagpod – Sesbania vesicaria
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=SEVE
Qty: 8 Bushy Bluestem (Grass) – Andropogon glomeratus
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=ANGL2
Qty: 4 Climbing Hempvine - Mikania scandens
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=MISC
Qty: 6 Hairypod Cowpea – Vigna luteola
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=VILU3
Qty: 5 Hooker's eryngo – Eryngium hookeri
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=ERHO9
Qty: 10 Illinois Bundleflower – Desmanthus illinoensis
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=DEIL
Qty: 7 Partridge Pea – Chamaecrista fasciculata
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=CHFA2
Qty: 1 Swamp Leatherflower – Clematis crispa
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=CLCR
Qty: 3 Swamp Sunflower – Helianthus angustifolius
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=HEAN2
Qty: 5 Tropical Puff – Neptunia pubescens
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=NEPU3
Qty: 5 Violet Ruellia – Ruellia nudiflora
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=RUNU
Qty: 3 Virginia Saltmarsh Mallow – Koesteletzkya virginica
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=KOVI
Out going
txaggiegal - Clematis crispa
Sheila_FW - Clematis crispa, Helianthus angustifolius
Frostweed - Helianthus angustifolius, Koesteletzkya virginica, Centrosema virginianum
Strophostyles
dfwdennis - Clematis crispa, Centrosema virginianum
realbirdlady - Desmanthus illinoensis
Allwild - Desmanthus illinoensis
nbgard - Centrosema virginianum, Strophostyles
dmtom - Callicarpa americana
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Texas Wildscape Native Seed Trade Thread
How many seeds do you think would make for one trade?
I have small quantities.
C
Oh no! Everybody should play!
Different people have different investments in their seeds, but honestly, for me, I'd just like to see them be in the ground where they've got some reasonable chance of not being weed whacked. I'm fine with "pay it forward" rather than a trade.
I'll think about it and look through my seeds. I might have more. Perhaps I should go collecting seeds off the E. Texas Mistflower I got from Frostweed! LOL
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Once the actual trading starts on Nov. 28th, do we d-mail our "requests' or post those desires on this thread (or both!). I've seen it done all three ways and want to make sure I ask for seeds the way y'all want it done.
Tonya
I'm in but it will take a few days so I can think of what seeds I have.
I believe we discussed D-mail so we can also get addresses, is that correct?
C
Those of you who don't have many seeds .....just remember these are free for SASE no trade required. Some gardeners like Josephine has native seeds to share and is excited to know that others will be growing natives. So don't leave....just select and when the trading time starts dmail those you want seeds from and send a self addressed envelope to the address they give you. You don't need to send them seeds unless they choose something from your list.
List!!!! Got to get that done now!
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I think we should trade on the thread this one or a new one so everyone can see what is going on, just like with a swap, but after that we can get addresses by dmail to send the seeds to the people.
Yes, I will be very glad to share my seeds with all who want them, that is what it's all about.
Welcome James, yes I spent two days sorting through mine.
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Great list AJ, I still need to finish mine.
The swaps work fine and Dmail for the address.
C
How do you get the seeds out of Brazos penstemon, those little seeds heads are hard! I wonder if any seeds are even left.
Josephine, could I have a few seeds from the clemetis?
Cheryl
I usually put the seedpods in a bag and hammer them, they are very hard, then you have to sift, they are very fine.
I can see you are getting excited Cheryl, but let us wait until everyone has posted.
Josephine.
LOL I just really want those seeds! I have plenty of others to sow for myself. hadn't thought of the hammer, are they so small as to be hard to recognize as seeds? Are these tiny dots seeds?
The Brazos penstemon seeds are very, very tiny. almost microscopic! I just pour them out the tip of the seed pod.
Yes, the tiny dots are the seeds, as Stephanie said that works too but is more tedious. I am at a point where I just cut the tops when they are dry, shake them around the beds and then lay them on the ground in a bed where i want them to come up.
Requests on the thread, okey dokey!
OK Now that I realize that nobody else is clear on the rules I feel better. LOL If we run out of a certain type of seed do we just mark "gone" by it? I'm going to put whats in each seed mix. All of you can decide if its native or not. I know somw of them are. OK here goes:
1)Chiltepin
2)Bluebonnet-scarified for quick germination
3)Butterfly/Hummingbird Blend- Purple Coneflower(P), Tickseed(P), Cornflower(A), Rocket Larkspur(A), Blanketflower(P), Indian Blanket(A), Drummond Phlox(A), Scarlet Sage(A/P), Candytuff(A/P), Yellow Cosmos(A), Sweet William(A/P), Cosmos(A), Wallflower(P), Lemon Mint(A/P), Tuber Vervain(P), Standing Cypress(P), Black-Eyed Susan(A/P), Shasta Daisy(P), Plains Coreopsis(A), Butterfly Weed(P), Sweet Alyssum(A), and Toadflax(A)
4)Texas/Oklahoma Blend-
Common Name Type % by Weight Common Name Type % by Weight
Texas Bluebonnet A 18.90 Baby's Breath A 2.86
Indian Blanket A 8.00 African Daisy A 2.75
Scarlet Flax A 6.60 Plains Coreopsis A 2.24
Tickseed P 6.45 Clasping Coneflower A 1.98
Lemon Mint A/P 6.23 Black-Eyed Susan A/P 1.76
Purple Coneflower P 5.86 Tuber Vervain P 1.44
Drummond Phlox A 5.29 Corn Poppy A 1.40
Cornflower A 4.40 Toadflax A 1.21
Rocket Larkspur A 4.40 Dwarf Red Coreopsis A 1.10
Baby Blue Eyes A 4.40 Standing Cypress P 1.00
Eyed Daisy P 4.18 Showy Primrose P 0.77
California Poppy A/P 3.14 Mexican Hat A/P 0.56
Yellow Cosmos A 2.86 Texas Paintbrush A/P/B 0.22
Yes you mark it, like if you have 3 and you trade 1 you edit your list and put a 2 where the 3 was.
Most of the flowers in you mix packets are native so if people want them that is just fine.
Josephine
OK great that makes things easier. I thought they were but wasn't sure. I guess I'm back in.
What I have, these are pretty small amounts of seed:
1-cowpen daisy
2-Rudbeckia hirta
1-drummond phlox
1-brazos penstemon
1-Coreopsis tinctoria(dwarf form)
1-Anemone patens wolfgangiana
1-Tahokia daisy
Sorry but I am too lazy to link these.
Cheryl
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Cheryl, the Mexican Milkweed is not native, however it is widely used for the butterflies because the native milkweeds are so difficult to grow. You might trade that one at the spring swap.
As you can see it says introduced;
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=ASCU
All your other plants are really good.
edited to correct the link.
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I finally got my list ready, that was a lot of work, see what you got me into Cheryl?
You know you love it Josephine!
Forgot to say I have posted my list.... http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=8220894
I still need to add the number of packets that will be available.
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Oh the hard work is done. Now all we have to do is trade, pack, mail and then gather materials to plant. LOL OK that does sound like a lot of work.
C
Speak for yourself, Cheryl! LOL
Yes, it is a lot of work but I do love it, this is so heart warming, it is great!!
Tonya, please don't shoot me, but Coral vine is not a Texas native, notice how under native status it says I for introduced. http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=ANLE4
I feel bad doing this, so please don't hate me.
About how much seed in each packet? I'm asking so we all kind of have the same idea.
I guess it depends on the size of the seeds, if it is very small maybe 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon and if a little larger 15 or 20 seeds, I guess larger seeds maybe a few.
Feedback please?
Oh Josephine, I don't hate you! Found it on npot.org, so thought it was native. I see now that it says naturalized and I guess that means the same as introduced. Thanks for pointing that out!
Sorry about the confusion, and thank you for understanding.
Found conflicting information, native or naughty?
Allium stellatum
Campanula rotundifolia
Anemone patens wolfgangiana
Sphaeralcea coccinea
I vote
native (but be sure of the identification)
native but extremely limited range - i don't think any of us here
native but extremely limited ranged (be sure of identification, I'm told they hybridize)
native to the panhandle and big bend
Cheryl are you trying to grow these?
Allium stellatum is native, http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=ALST
Campanula rotundifolia also native, http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=CARO2
Sphaeralcea coccinea, also native, http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=SPCO
Anemone patens, is not shown at Wildflower.org but is shown at USDA.
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PUPAM
It is shown at Wildflower.org as Pulsatilla patens http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=PUPA5
But is shown on both as native to Texas.
If you go to the usda link and scroll down you will see that Anemony pattens has many synonyms one of them is Pulsatilla patens.
Scientific names are changed too, when botanists discover that a plant maybe related to one genus more than the other. Some sites change the name and others don't, so it can be confusing sometimes.
I was thinking of ordering seed and I was not certain about those plants. So the rule seems to be all are native but the anemone might be a hybrid, I can live with that.
I also have a question about Sedum pullchellum (sp?). I have seen conflicting images of it. Some one gave me what they called TX sedum at the RU and I am wondering if that is what it is. Haven't had it bloom so I cant use that as an identifier. I grow 4 species of sedum but really would love to have a native too. I saw seeds and will order those if mine is not the native species.
C
I will post the "TX sedum" pic and then one of a similar sedum which is non-native.
Non native, I don't know if you can tell how different they really look in these pics. This one is more yellow and very yellow in spring. The prior plant is more lime green but tends to darken with more sun.
C
I know I have the following in very limited quantities
Zexmenia http://wildflower.org/gallery/species.php?id_plant=WETE
Cowpen Daisy http://wildflower.org/gallery/species.php?id_plant=VEEN
Brazos Penstemon
Rock Rose http://wildflower.org/gallery/species.php?id_plant=PALA13
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Stephanie, not only is Zexmenia native to Texas, it is an Endemic, or native to Texas only, so please spread it to your heart's content.
Cheryl, Sedum pulchellum is shown here as a native
http://wildflower.org/gallery/result.php?id_image=4142
however I can't tell you if that is what you have because I am not familiar with Sedums.
Maybe someone else familiar with it can identify it for you.