Knew some one here would know.
Saw this tree and had to find out what it is
I hope someone knows, I haven't seen it before.
Looks like nut tree, try breaking those hulls off the core- stick em in a freezer for a day, then thaw and see if they'll open away from the nut. They have been trying out some new chestnuts in this area and others since the old strains acquired a virus and went hvy toward extinction. The leaves are exceptionally large for most nut trees is confusing me...
99? try posting on the tree id forum
, Resin is awesome with his tree id's when he pops in...
I believe what you have is a tung oil tree. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/72530/ If the leaves look familiar, I would say be cautious. This is planted as an ornamental but it is poisonous.
I believe it is Tung oil also. Look at these pictures. http://waynesword.palomar.edu/tungoil1.htm
Was/is it really the source of tongue oil for furniture polish?
C
Yes, it is where tung oil comes from... I was just searching to see if I had saved any of the information when I had asked for an ID on a these fruits. There are different types of these trees and the tung oil comes from one cultivar.
I only had a description of the tree, leaf and bloom. I had never seen it. A friend brought me two of the fruits/nuts and asked if I could ID them for him. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1047665/?hl=tung+oil+tree
Ilovejesus99 ~ I am glad you were able to positively ID it. Do you have one growing or was it elsewhere?
Pod.....The first picture in PF link does look like Sandy's picture, but the other the leaf shot is different. Also the last of the link Sandy posted has a large leaf shot that doesn't match her initial pic. Is it maybe different species of the tung oil tree?
btw....I love the Hawaiian necklaces! Any of you guys looked near the end; I did.
Yes, I caught the necklaces ~ very fun.
Pieohmys' comment "young tung-oil putting out spring leaves" caught my attention on that last photo. Do you think the immature leaf is different or perhaps the first spring leaves are shaped a bit differently?
I guess they used a rock tumbler to hone them.....interesting that someone thought of it!
Rereading your comment on the leaves, the answer would be yes, it is a different species of tree in the same family. The kukui nut necklace is made from the polished, thick-shelled "nuts" (seeds) of the candlenut tree (Aleurites molucanna) which is closely related. The tung oil tree is in the same family but Aleurites fordii.
I liked the delicate hand painting on that one necklace.
I think I have one on a pot but these trees were on the other side of Houston. I bet the seed pods were too immature to be ready to grow. I will have to wait till mine gets bigger to tell if it is the same one.
Yes, I suspect those seeds were to young to sprout.
As you are growing one of these, you might be interested in reading more info on them. I always like the information that Florida has to offer. Their flora and ours are very similar... at least from middle east TX to the coast. http://www.floridata.com/ref/a/aleu_for.cfm
especially the warning...
WARNING
All parts of tung tree are toxic, but the fruits are most dangerous. Eating even one seed may be fatal. Symptoms may include severe stomach pain, vomiting, diarrhea, weakness, slowed breathing, and poor reflexes. The leaves give some people a poison-ivy-like rash. The Plant Conservation Alliance categorizes this species as an Alien Invader and it is listed as a Category II invasive exotic species by the Florida Exotic Pest Plant Council. This means that it has "shown a potential to disrupt native plant communities." Although this ranking suggests that tung tree is capable of naturalizing and should not be allowed to spread into the woods, experience has shown that it does not compete aggressively. Tung trees have soft wood that is easily shattered by strong winds, so they should not be planted too close to buildings.
Toxic Reactions in Humans
All parts of the tung oil tree are poisonous, but the seeds are the most dangerous. Humans can die if one seed is ingested, with less severe reactions including vomiting, diarrhea, slowed breathing, poor reflexes and weakness. Touching the leaves of the tung oil plant can cause reactions similar to poison ivy poisoning.
Also warnings not to allow pets or livestock ingest any portion of this plant.
Many FLA links comment on their invasive status also.
I read enough to make me say no thanks to the offer of those seed pods. I am not meaning to discourage, only to say ~ please be cautious.
Those immature 'nuts' are laying on my dirty floor board!!! Roflol!!!
Kittriana, these two trees are in Magnolia, n of 1488 & e of Honea Egypt. Sandy was visiting me & we were Garage Sale-ing when we saw them. They are around the corner fr my boss. I'll write myself a note to go by & take some more pix & maybe see if the nuts are any bigger.
The man whose yard these are in, said that they are completely seedy in the fall. He compared them to a pomegrante (sp) fruit.
Does that connect with Tung trees?
No resemblence to the pomegranite when the pod is opened.
If you drop down thru the photos in this link, I opened the seed pods from the tung oil and you can see what it looked like inside.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1047665/?hl=tung oil tree
Smockette I think I have a Tung oil tree in a pot. Don't have room to do it justice. Was thinking maybe you would like it on your 2 acres. I am pretty sure that is what it is.
Podster, I ck'd that thread. These 'fruit' are the size of a large plum or orange or tennis ball.
Sandy, do you still have one of the 'fruit' that you could cut open?
You may have a tung tree in a pot but I don't think our 'fruit' is what Podster's friend has.
Now, I am even more curious as to what it is!!!
A plum or larger is the correct size of the full fruit. When I cut it open, it had three nuts inside and each was referenced by the size of a quarter.
Please, do cut open one and see what is inside. I'm curiouser too...
edited to add... these were picked up off the ground. They had matured to that point.
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Going to work tomorrow. Will go by & get one & cut to see what it looks like.
You mention on the other thread that you got 3 nuts fr it. The man in Magnolia is the one that described it as being like a pomegrate, 'with no pulp only seeds'. So I got the impression that it has multiple seeds, not just three but we will see.
Ongoing saga! lol
I love a suspense thriller. Please post what you find?
K
I don't have one of the pods sorry.....yes it does continue.....
This is a picture of the tree I have. It has been in a 36 " plastic flower box fo atleast 6 years. Without pruning like a bonsai it has stayed small. I have never got around to planting it or it be huge by now. Poor thing doesn't know what to think.
I really believe this is a Tung oil tree. Just not sure I have enough room for it to thrive. Of course it would have to go into the ground. :o(
maybe I have the makings of a beautiful bonsai tree. What do you all think?
Could that be a Chinese tallow tree? http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/16668/
nope I have (YUCKY) tallow trees in my yard. I say yucky but they are shade where they have been for over the 21 plus yrs. I have lived here.
Hey, Pod, do you think if I brought it home fr Sandy's & planted it, that it might get rid of my moles? They are driving me nuts. Walking in my yard makes you think you are drunk when you haven't been drinking!!! That many tunnels!!!
Bringing the tung oil tree home? I don't know but have heard of old timers planting Castor beans for mole repellents.
I have about 5 castor beans growing, in the ground & I think they are still eating my gingers for dessert!!! 3 of the Castors are planted in & around my ginger bed!
That's just like they say the pulmarias (my spelling goes down w/the sun) are deer-resistant. Well, my deer cleared 15 of every leaf & left not one on the ground!!!
Hmm... wonder what it would take to get the deer eat the moles...
On the Castor bean, the older folks say they put the beans in the mole tunnels.
I don't know the answer, maybe a digging dog that chases deer? We have moles but not that bad. I will lift a pot and find tunnels that have surfaced under the pot. At least they haven't moved into pots! I do know snakes will eat them but who wants to give up one for the other?
Well, you bring up some really interesting questions for thought!!! ROFLOL
All I got to say is WOW are you BRIGHT & WITTY @ 4:29 in the morning!!! lol
If I should put seeds in the tunnels, then, I'm begging anyone reading this thread, do you have any seeds that you can spare for postage? lol You see I thought it was a plant that would get rid of them & I planted all I had!!!
:~(
Well, you gave me my grin when you said
(my spelling goes down w/the sun)
What I've been wanting to know... what did y'all find while garage saleing besides these fruits/nuts?
Can't tell all the items but the back of my CR-V was full to the roof & had to call the guy that lives @ my house to bring my/his big van to get the washer & dryer!!!
Happen to be almost as good as dumpster diving, I swear!!! D-mail Sandy & ask what all she bought!!!
Went to work today & the skies were black so I will have to get pixs manana!!! (Total extent of my Spanish!!!)
That is on the tree & fruit that this thread was 'originally' started about!!! Sandy won't mind; she was a part of all I am talking about!! She is my sistah!!!
:~)
There is nothing like a good garage sale fix. Even when we don't find anything it is satisfying to know other folks have more junky junque than I do! We visit family in MN in the summer and spend a couple days with family and friends on a garage sale tour. It is fun to visit and look and buy... although at my age, we went to two estate sales that made me say I was coming home to clean out my crap. And I have done some.
Hey, for the last 2 yrs, when Smock & I go to the Indy 500, we have hit the biggest garage sell on whatever is equivalent to I-70!!!
Maybe US40? It goes thru Indy! Fun to look & even more fun to find that great buy that you didn't know you could live w/o!!!
I can't read the whole thread. Did anyone say Snotty Gobbles Fruit Tree?
Cordia dichotoma. Edible, if you dare.
I read the WHOLE THING!!! lol & I have LOL outloud fr the reading!!!
Didn't hear that mentioned but now you have my curiosity UP!!!
Define please!!! Going to ck the Botantical!!!
How far are you fr Lake George?
:~)
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