...and here is Madame Alfred Carriere from the inside of the arbor:
best roses for Texas
beautiful... I love roses...
mocatmom.. I love roses too.. I hope my pic comes through ..it is my garden last year...around May/June ..or it could be in July.. I can't see it clearly .. I had put flags on my deck area ...hahaha
The back (top) of the garden is where I have my roses & perennials.. that is cosmos in the very middle.. it covered my birdbath.. then to the right of that is my herb garden..which is not much anymore..I let is go "wild" with whatever comes back..usually it's the basil. Then to the left of the cosmos ( closest to the left side in front).. is where I plant my annuals..like zinnia, marigold, globe amaranth.
Just looked at the enlarged photo & it is from July!!! sorry
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you will see my Don Juan where the trellis is.. the the left of that is an orange rose.. Montezuma, I think..then to the left of that is the Double Delight.
To the right of the Don Juan is a small bush that has white roses.. I am not crazy about that as the flowers bloom too quickly & fall apart before I can get to them..messy! I used to have an apricot rose (Brandy) but it died last year.. then there was a rose ( 2 times in fact) under the arch part.. which I never replaced. On the far right of the garden (top) is a pink floribunda rose bush which is beautiful when full of blooms ( I can't remember it's name).. I planted most of these 5 years ago & they have done very well for me.
I had to replant a Double Delight last year as I had pruned it too soon & there was still another frsot "coming", so it killed it! Unfortunately ..or maybe fortunately, it was the only rose I pruned at the time.
just about every bed at my place has roses in them... I have climbers to minitures..lol.. I did a mental count and came up with 16 diferent ones.. no.. make that 17...lol..none of them are real large since most have only had a couple of years here but there is nothing like a rose..
so true blkraven.. as you can see I am limited to space & I have a rose in a container.. but I would love more!! I am running out of space in the yard now so I have to become picky to what I am getting. I want a Bee Balm this year & it has to go in a container..but i want it in a "prominent" spot as it's a pretty plant!
Still wanting a climber who is very yellow, very disease resistant with fewer thorns...
I do like several that are posted here. Thinking now a yellow and a red would be nice.
C
I had one called Golden Showers that was real pretty when I lived in MI. I bought one for my mom while she lived in San Antoino and it did well there also Jacobs Coat is a pretty climber..it has red. yellow and orangy peach blooms on it ..
newton, you could do what I do..I looked at the Jackson & Perkins book for one that I liked then looked for it cheaper somewhere else..that's how I acquired Double Delight & I didn't pay as much,
I know J&P have changed hands & I have heard some sad stories about their service..personally if I buy a J&P rose it would be from somewhere like Lowe's as they sell that brand.
I have recently received J&P's latest catalogue & it has some new yellow roses. Just fyi
blkraven I am from Dearborn Hts. MI, how long have you been in TX?
Cheryl
Ive been here about 3 yrs now staring on my 4th in june... I spent 25 yrs in MI from Kalamazoo to Lansing and several northern Detroit suburbs.. I miss MI but I dont miss the snow...lol..
blkraven2, several folks have recommended George Burns to me. I love the color variation and I understand it is very thorny. I do like a thorny rose so it is on my "list".
mocatmom, what a excellent arbor! The roses look so healthy as well!
And, cindylove, a lovely bed or roses. It must smell divine on a warm summer evening!
As for a nearly thornless yellow climber for Texas, has anyone looked at Climbing Lady Hillingdon? Excellent fragrance, few thorns, and a Tea. Some describe it as an appricot/yellow, but my Lady Hillingdon tea (not a climber) is very yellow in full sun here in Texas. Veryhealthy. Here is a link to HMF.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.107420
I haven't got any photos of mine, yet. It is first year and not quite there so far. It is coming on from one little band but it looks to be eager to grow on and has sent up two blooms so far. Very pretty and I already want more!
Here is a photo of the new bed I've been working on. The tipped over wishing well doesn't belong there--its been so windy here that I needed to put it on it's side to protect it and that is where it ended up. Its to go in another bed actually. Also the post is from an old fence that was on the property when we bought it. A trip to Edom for a cool bird house is in my future! The roses already in leaf are Summer Song. The rest are all Austins exempt for the rose I am training as a pillar up the post, Sunrise. And one lone Kordes shrub, Sylt, a ground cover type rose.
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It looks good.. Its amazing what a difference a single vertical accent can make.. it really adds to the bed and once covered will be beautiful.. Ive so many beds I want to get into place but am consuntrating on finishing whats in place so far.. I have to stop myself from flitting from one thing to another.. I just have all these places I want to fill...lol....this is my newest bed in my front yard.. it has a kathleen rose in it I started it last summer by collecting bricks from a torn down house just around the corner from me.. every night for about month youd see me and my litle yellow wagon go get a load.. I got enough to edge this bed and the other one next from it..and as you can see its not small, sorta like yours..lol.. its a lot fuller now and for the first summer is looking pretty good.. . there are 2 beds sorta matching Im working on in my front yard to help delineate the yard and now I get to proceed on the other..
Terri, Blkraven.. I LOVE your gardens!!!!!! Only one problem.. they're too SMALL!! hahahahahahaha... If i had yards like yours then I would hardly have any grass!!!! hahahaha.
I would have tons of flowers & veggie gardens, with, of course, focusing on roses!!!
Blkraven I have been in Texas going on 6 yrs ( Sept). I am from Ontario, Canada ( yes, I am Canadian, but hubby is American). I do NOT miss anything of Canada..not even family or friends.
We are going to make a short trip there this October after we have a vacation in Vermont.
Blkraven, maybe one of these days we will meet each other! Cool!
Thanks.. Ive almost an acre to play with but about half of it is still over grown..maybe in 20 years Ill get it tamed and then Ill be ready for a old folks home....lol.... its just really hard to do everything by myself..Im working on the getting rid of the grass part of yard work to lessin my mowing time..lol.. this is across from the bed you saw.. now you have to remember none of this was here when I moved here in june of 07.. I built all of this between then and now and Im still working on it...
name a date and time and Id love to meet you.. I met a DG member for the first time this week in Nac at Starbucks .. we had a blast chatting and the time just flew by.. we are planning on setting up a monthly get together just to stay in touch now.. we could do a meet in the middle kind of thing if youd like..I mean you cant be that far away now can you???. ..oh wait, I forgot, this is texas we are living in......lol.
blkraven2, I really like that brick edging.
cindylove, the next new bed will be twice that size. Still plotting what I want in it, but am definitely figuring on three standard Lady Emily Hamiltons and either a perenial blue salvia or nepeta. The bed is sort of filling in in my mind from the center out. I'll know the right thing when I see it.
Blkraven, I love this one too... Terri... I agree with you with always planning.. though I don't have the space, I try to fit in a new plant somewhere! This year I am letting one end of my garden go "wild" ..more than last year.. as I always have Salvia come up somewhere so I want to keep that as it stays in bloom until October & the bees love it & that is a time of year when they really need it.
If we didn't love gardening we wouldn't do it right?? hahaha
I have a friend who is 83 yrs young & plays pickle ball 5 days a week..she would love it if she could play 7 days!!! Here I am just happy as a lark doing my little thing!! hahaha
I was thinking of going through for my Master Gardener certificate & just happened to meet someone doing that.. it is a lot of work .. it's actually a class with lots of homework! hahaha.. Once completed then the MG has to do volunteer work through out the year..it's a specific amount of hours. It costs $150 & it is only done in Feb..classes going to May...so i am going to have to do some serious thinkin!!!
Blkraven.. I'll look into how far we are from each other.. as you're right.. Texas is enormous & what we think is a big distance to each other ( like 10 miles) is nothing to the "natives"!! hahahahaha
Im a biker so far to me is over a hundred miles.. its not unusual for me to go out and ride 200 miles to nowhere..lol..I did the master gardner class but wont get my certifcate because of the problem with the volenter hrs.. to do any them I have to drive 80 miles RT and I cant afford it.. everything is at the north end of the county and Im a mile from the southern end of it.. but it was still worth it. Isay do it cause of all the contacts and stuff youll learn....its funny what the different counties charge and require for the hrs..mine was 80.00 and 100 hrs.... some have even more hrs to do.... itd be nice if it was a standard thing so everyone was equal so to speak to start with.. .
and from what i've read, climbing pinkie is designated as an earth kind rose! that makes it a great choice as well!
@cindylove...I did the MG program last year, and I can't say enough about it. Just the books and resource materials alone are worth $150. Beyond that we had PhD prepared, highly educated and knowledgeable experts in each respective field come and lecture for each topic. The plant trading in the group and during the class is enough to practically landscape your entire yard from propagation! I got so much from this class I just can't say enough. It is a wealth of information that extends well beyond taking care of ornamental plants... turf grasses, trees, annuals, perennials, fruit / veggies, low volume irrigation, rain water recapturing, etc. The homework is totally doable. We really only had to do a work sheet front and back before each class. You certainly shouldn't let that keep you from just going, sitting in lecture, and being around people with a love for plants that matches your own!!! do it do it do it!!
hahahaha.. thanks Robmal.. the one thing that IS keeping me from doing my MG would be money!! right now I am not working so we'll see.. we have a huge vacation coming up in October so it all depends on what it looks like after that! hahaha
I will consider it though...just maybe in a few years.
We plan on semi-retiring (if everything goes right) in 5-10 years. I hope that the Master Gardener program is still going then because that is the first thing I plan to do. I started it once many years ago in Florida. We had to move to another state and I have to quit mid-stream and I couldn't pick it up again in my new area. I have a friend who has a bucket list. Mine is a trug list.
I graduate from MG next Tues! I still have a lot of volunteer hours to do, but you have a year from when you graduate. I can do it easily! We had a filed trip to a fabulous rose nursery this past Tues. I have thouroughly enjoyed it even having to get up early every Tues when I am so used to doing what I want when I want. LOL I have made a lot of new plant friends to share and trade with!
Congrats, yardqueen1948! =D Consider yourself heartily patted on the back =D! Hope to see you at the round-up. Do you get a diploma?
I have lots of roses in my yard, and they are going crazy this year! Initially I had a few that had problems with black spot - but I've pretty much eliminated those - and now have a pretty much care-free rose garden.
One of my favorites is a yellow one called Manchester Guardian Angel that I got via mail order a few years ago. She has been absolutely amazing this year! This one has very few thorns.
Is it apricot or yellow, the pic looks apricot but its a lovely plant. I want a climber with few disease issues that can take some neglect. I was also hoping for one that did not take over the whole yard. I might check out the one you listed.
C
Also, is it an everbloomer?
C
LOL, I just read all of the previous posts which I did not do before I posted the about about the "fabulous rose nursery." Of course it was Chamblees. LOL I had been there a few times before and have bought roses, but they took us all around (HUGE) and talked about a lot of things. I saw where they trial Earth kind Roses and an area where they are growing the Buck Roses. http://www.chambleeroses.com/order/Dr-Griffith-Buck-Roses/
When I bought roses before I did not know what I have learned due to the MG classes. (The owner of Chamblee's came and did a lecture for us and then of course I learned more on the field trip. Now when I get to buy roses again I will know more about what I want and how to choose them.
I also have the Nacogdoches Rose which I love. I got it last year for Mother's Day.
The Manchester Guardian Angel blooms all season. I always look for repeat bloomers. It photographed more apricot, but to me it is a creamy yellow.
Ok, I bought 2 pink climbers. One I cannot remember the name of right now. The other is The Fairy. Upon looking it up, most appear to be bush rather than climbing. Does anyone grow the climbing variety of The Fairy?
C
I did have it up north. It was a bush.
I did see a reference to a climbing type of fairy and I pretty sure they were in the climbing sections at Rodentas, so we will see how it works.
C
Terri.. I love that color!
It does hold that color pretty well from start to finish. A bit of BS, but I don't really spray. It seems to be getting better about the BS as it gets older. Taller than its partner in this bed, Grace. Another good, healthy bloomer for me.
I am having problems with blackspot too.. it's not been this bad ever... I am trying to keep on top of it as I am not using pesticides anymore but it seems to be sneaking in on me in the small places..where I sometimes can't reach!!!!!!
All I am doing is removing the affected leaves..one bush already looks skeletal!! hahaha
newt, there is a climbing AND a bush The Fairy. I grow the bush one. It has long canes which I trim--I can see where somebody might think they have the climber b/c of the long canes. A reputable nursery should/will keep them separate to avoid confusion/disappointment. I think it is an earthking rose.
I have received rooted cuttings of Nacogdoches and have killed it twice. I probably need to get a big established plant of it but now I have no room so need to wait until something croakes....
Who kills New Dawn? I did. simply couldn't get it going. Then I notice there is a White Dawn, would love to get that one and hopefully not kill it.
I've been looking at the ARS magazine "American Rose". They have an ad for a product called GreenCure that is supposed to be good for BS. Has anyone tried this? I asked about this one on another thread as well.
is it environmentally friendly? I may be able to ask someone who works in one of the universities here that is a gardener..she sometimes is on tv.
I think it was with the climbers, still has the tag and I need to look and see if its marked in some way.
C
cindylove, the product I mentioned is called GreenCure. It is ARS tested and endorsed, but I'm not sure how organic it is. Organic can mean so many things. I'd love to get a second opinion before I splash out the cash. If it works that would be great!
