Weather Forecasting Folklore

Cleveland, OH(Zone 6a)

I dont know what the subject was but anyhow,just called to say hello.Brian

Cleveland, OH(Zone 6a)

Hey Homegrown,Can you for one minute treat yourself to your self and all your hard work for God sakes relax

Brooklyn, NY

well heres a few things i always heard growing up
if the cows are laying down the fish arent bitting
cut open a persimmon and look and see if it has a spoon knife or fork inside of it
tell by the bush on a squirels tale
Cats scratch a post before a wind, wash their faces before a rain, and sit with their back toward the fire before a snow.


-- If a rooster crows at night, there will be rain by morning.


-- Pigs gather leaves and straw before a storm.


-- If cows lie down and refuse to go to pasture, you can expect a storm to blow up soon.


-- If a dog starts to whine for no reason, you can expect a major storm -- possibly a tornado.


-- Birds on a telephone wire predict the coming of rain.


-- The darker the woolly bear’s (warm) coat, the more severe the winter will be. If there is a dark stripe at the head and one at the end, the winter will be severe at the beginning, become mild, then get worse just before spring.


-- When dogs eat grass, you can expect a severe storm.


Other than farmers, ships at sea were most affected by the weather. And since animals (except rats and the legendary pirate’s parrot) were rare on ships, sailors used current weather conditions, the position of the moon, as well as the behavior of sea life, to determine whether they should batten down the hatches.


-- If porpoises frolic at sea, expect a storm.


-- Red sky at morning, sailor take warning; red sky at night, a sailor’s delight.


-- A falling meteor predicts fair weather.


-- The appearance of gulls overhead does not mean rain, but fair skies instead.


-- If rain falls while the sun shines, then the shower will last half an hour.


-- If rats in the hold climb out on deck, it will be a fair day.


-- If the sail no longer catches the wind, then expect a violent storm to blow up in just a few hours.


-- If a quarter moon lies on his back, it is holding the rain. However, if it tips over, grab your slicker.


-- If salt pork turns sour, then be ready for a shower.


-- Blue sky in the northwest foretells fair weather and a good breeze.


-- If the moon rises red and appears very large, then rain is only a half day away.


Other than groundhogs, badgers and bears, other wildlife -- especially insects and bugs -- can be depended upon to predict the coming weather conditions. In Britain, for instance, loud singing crickets predict the coming of violent storms. If spiders weave their webs before noon, then it will be fair weather. Ants are supposed to be busier before a storm, as are cockroaches.


-- Locusts sing when the air is hot and dry.


-- When toads appear in large numbers, you can expect rain.


-- If bears and horses get thick coats early, then expect a severe winter.


-- Squirrels are busier gathering nuts before a bad winter.


-- If wasps build their nests high, a severe winter is on its way.

Cleveland, OH(Zone 6a)

If a dog srarts to whine for no reason, your most likely standing on its tale

Caneyville, KY(Zone 6b)

:) My dog would bite me, if I was standing on his tale.

Cleveland, OH(Zone 6a)

Hello Robin,hows things @ the bat cave?Just checked pricing for-a draw knife at Lehman~s eighty bucks and change.`sup wit dat?I only want to debark a tree not shave the president.

Caneyville, KY(Zone 6b)

They're sure proud of it.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Check Garret Wade
http://www.garrettwade.com/product.asp?pn=19S02.26

Cleveland, OH(Zone 6a)

HUH? THE fool say`s Happy April fools day to all And have a sfe and prosperous season

Sapello, NM(Zone 5b)

Might also check around the antique/junk stores... I've occasionally found some good old tools pretty cheap. Just gotta poke around in those boxes under the table.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Yeah, pays to check around. My spokeshave is a stolen item... stolen from a friend who had abandoned mostly worthless tools. I also got 2 decent old wood molding planes.

Sapello, NM(Zone 5b)

Nice score, Darius! Good to see you on the boards again, BTW. =0)

Cleveland, OH(Zone 6a)

Darius Maximus greetings,from the enlightened one

Cleveland, OH(Zone 6a)

BTW Darius shouldnt a spoke shave work? slower 4 sure not concave but still should work.I`m not paying 80+ to shave A TREE

Cleveland, OH(Zone 6a)

Forecast this:60* and sunny.I love when a plan comes together. P.S Looking for some heirloom,corn,cukes,pea`s,beans,squash.peppers,and tomato`s. May be a late start but I need the seed.Will compensate.But only for people that need. Give me a d-g or black mail what ever it is and I will foreward said $.No hybrid need apply.

Sapello, NM(Zone 5b)

Let me go through my seeds.... how about eggplant?
Does it have to be heirloom? I've got OP seeds, but not all of them are heirloom.

Read once that back in colonial days they would fell the trees to open up the canopy, and plant around them where they lay... finish limbing and removing them after harvest. How they got the crops in ASAP.

Caneyville, KY(Zone 6b)

I've got a few varieties of heirloom tomatoes.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Spokeshaves should work. Problem is most of them have a narrow width to the blade so you wouldn't take off a very wide swath...

I have a LOT of heirloom Kentucky Wonder pole bean seed that's 2 years old. Germination rates might be lower, so plant double. You can have 'em for postage.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1558/

Cleveland, OH(Zone 6a)

Where would i be with out good people.Thank you for your concern.hybrid leads to handcuffed=indentured serf.real seed real future Self sustained

Lubbock, TX(Zone 7a)

What happened to weather folklore?

Joplin, MO(Zone 6b)

Anyone heard of Blackberry winter? We have it here.. it gets into the upper 80's sometimes 90's for a week the end of April or the first of May.. then it plummets to the 30's & 40's for 2 weeks. Afterwards the blackberries bloom out. We know that when blackberry winter gets here Summer is only a couple weeks away.

Caneyville, KY(Zone 6b)

Moist April, clear June.

A rainbow in spring indicates fair weather for the next 24 to 42 hours.

Expect rain if hens spread and ruffle their tail feathers

Joplin, MO(Zone 6b)

My word its gonna come a flood then. My hens have had their tail feathers spread & ruffled for 3 days.

Caneyville, KY(Zone 6b)

Greykyttyn, lol! Mine, too.

Joplin, MO(Zone 6b)

idk if this has been put down yet or not... not in the mood to read all of it & find out...

blue ring around the moon means rain within a couple days.
maple leaves turning their bellies up to the sky means rain within a couple days.

oooo....

smoke always follows the prettiest one standing near the fire. :)

Caneyville, KY(Zone 6b)

I keep telling Hubby, I should have been born rich instead of beautiful ;)

Will have to start keeping tabs on my maple tree.

Cleveland, OH(Zone 6a)

Expect rain when your working,expect more rain when you have a mile or more to walk get home,out of the rain.Never failed me once.

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

I thought of this thread when I read this from a gardening newsletter I get... http://www.vegetablegardener.com/item/2648/how-and-when-to-water-your-garden

Quoting:
Predicting the weather

Predicting the weather is like writing: Anybody can do it, but not everybody gets paid for it. Before the ascent of farmer-forecaster Willard Scott, gardeners looked to nature for weather signals. Many still do, and sometimes they are as right as TV meteorologists.

Sunny days to come:
• Heavy dew on the evening grass
• Swallows soaring high
• Beetles and bats flying in the evening
No need to water:
• Spiders reinforcing their webs
• Trees turning up their leaves
• Clover contracting its leaves
In the end, though, the verse by Reginald Arkell may sum it all up:

A gardener’s life
Is full of sweets and sours.
He gets the sunshine
When he needs the showers.

Colmesneil, TX(Zone 8b)

A weatherperson is the only one I know of that can be consistently wrong and keep their job. lol

Richmond, TX

Well some politicians do much the same...

Caneyville, KY(Zone 6b)

Thanks, Podster

Colmesneil, TX(Zone 8b)

Quote from porkpal :
Well some politicians do much the same...


Your right, those little slime balls lie so much it’s hard to tell if they were right or wrong on most everything. I will add them to the rolls of the inept.

Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK(Zone 7a)

Quote from msrobin :
I did


I was interested in the name of your town. I grew up in Caney, KS

Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK(Zone 7a)

Quote from greykyttyn :
wow someone else knows the tree leaf thing! Grandpa always told me to watch the silver maples.. when the leaves were belly up, rain was on the way


I always heard this too. Also the one about the cows.

I also heard when the cow herd was lying down, the fishing was no good.

Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK(Zone 7a)

Quote from EastOfMidnite :
If a dog srarts to whine for no reason, your most likely standing on its tale


My dogs only have about 1" of a tail. If I was standing on it I'd be on their butts!
Mine would probably bite me too. LOL

Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK(Zone 7a)

My Mom always told me if it was foggy in the morning, it would burn off to be a beautiful day. I hold her true to it.

Lubbock, TX(Zone 7a)

This thread has died down and I'm glad to see some new posts.

Anyone have any fall/winter lore to share?

I'm been seeing lots of caterpillars lately and I've heard:

Fuzzy caterpillars mean a cold winter.

Richmond, TX

Were yours fuzzy?

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

According to folk wisdom, when the brown bands on fall woolly bears are narrow, it means a harsh winter is coming. The wider the brown band, the milder the winter will be.

(Today, entomologists agree that woolly worms are not accurate predictors of winter weather. Many variables may contribute to changes in the caterpillar's coloration, including larval stage, food availability, temperature or moisture during development, age, and even species.}

Also according to folk legend, when you hear the first song of the dog-day cicadas, it means there's just six weeks until frost.

Richmond, TX

We must be hearing the wrong cicadas, in that case!

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