would love to have this morning glory in my yard

http://www.flowersinisrael.com/Convolvulussecundus_page.htm can you imagine. aw its so beautiful.

i would love to have a yellow one but right now cant even think about buying seeds. both me and my hubby lost our jobs and things are really trying right now.

was just surfing different country morning glories and this site has some wonderful photos of Convolvulaceae. lovely flowers and maybe one day.

This looks like the white one that grows wild on our beaches - it's protected, though - can't dig or disturb it unless you want to be arrested! I have wanted this one, too, if that's what is pictured.

http://seedclean.com/htdocs/images/IMG_7714.jpg

Here is one beach morning glory like we have - we also have pink and purple morning glories on our beaches - very tempting, for sure!

alot of our beach glories are protected too here on the beaches. they are a want though

what a lovely plant... it's gone on my wants list too...
here are some links to other pics:
http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Middle_East/Israel/photo90427.htm
http://www.wildflowers.co.il/english/plant.asp?ID=742
http://www.fossilflowers.com/taxpage/0/0/79/binomial/Convolvulus%20secundus.html

Colin

Kay - could you post any links that you have in relation to restrictions on collecting Ipomoea imperati (?)...

Ipomoea imperati is far from an endangered plant and is well established over a very large geographic area...including South Carolina,Georgia,all of the Caribbean states and Caribbean area,Central America and has naturalized in the Mediterranean area...

Please note that even where any plant may be seriously in danger of extinction (which is most definitely NOT the case with Ipomoea imperati) seeds and plants collected from private property are not typically bound by any state or federal laws...so,if you collect plants or seeds from private property any restrictions do not typically apply...


Restrictions on collecting any type of plant do not apply to private property,despite frequent propaganda to the contrary.

Ipomoea imperati
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=IPIM
http://florida.plantatlas.usf.edu/Plant.aspx?id=2755

Here is the USDA search engine for threatened and endangered plants
http://plants.usda.gov/threat.html


TTY,...


Ron


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Native yellow variety of Calystegia malacophylla in California
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/imgs/512x768/8076_3101/3984/0096.jpeg

Convolvulus sp. yellow
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/imgs/512x768/5207_1611/1136/0088.jpeg

the above 2 examples were extracted from the following post
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=2870954

I have first-hand direction from the PCB beach police - they caught me trying to dig up a plant on one of our public beaches - I'm not aware there are private beaches in my area. The beach patrol made me stop and said there was a 'hefty' fine for disturbing plant life on ANY of the sand dunes. I'd say - if you want to try it, go ahead - it's fine with me!

At a zoo near Houston I asked if my friend and I could collect seeds. They said seeds yes,cuttings or digging is No. So we complied.



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any sand dune plant for eriosion is a no no to dig or touch. they also do not allow you to touch ay plant in areas where the turtles lay their eggs. but mostly its the erision control plants they say no too. and it is a fine .


Protection of Dunes

Although dune plants tolerate harsh beach condi- tions, they cannot withstand foot and vehicular traffic. These activities crush plant shoots and roots. Trampling by pedestrians and traffic such as four- wheel-drive vehicles and trail bikes often lead to greater sand removal by wind. In addition, soil compaction often results from vehicular traffic and decreases water infiltration, leading to erosion from rain and increased damage during droughts. Restrict- ing or banning access to dunes can reduce the need for other sand control measures. However, some dunes will have to bear traffic, and to protect them, crosswalks and beach access areas should be designated.


here is one stating that any flower on this act is agianst the law

Home / Laws and Regulations / Federal Consistency Regulations
State Laws Under Federal Consistency
Wildflower Preservation

O.C.G.A. 12-6-170 General Description

The Wildflower Preservation Act provides for designation of and protection of plant species that are rare, unusual, or in danger of extinction. Additional species may be added by the Board of Natural Resources at any time. The protection offered to these species is limited to those that are found on public lands of the State. It is a misdemeanor to transport, carry, convey, sell, cut, pull up, dig up, or remove protected species listed by this Act


one the beaches where sand dune preservation is going on its against the law to touch these plants on sc beaches its posted as dont not touch plants on dunes.

Marie - Here is the essence of what I stated above

"The protection offered to these species is limited to those that are found on public lands of the State."

Generally - collecting seeds may be tolerated and / or allowed in some areas,although digging up plants that hold the dunes together on public land would understandably be prohibited...

There are plants that occur on private property above the demarcation zone for public or government owned lands...also the state and local laws are likely different in AL,LA and throughout TX...

Ipomoea imperati will sometimes occur along freshwater waterways as the seeds and plant parts are naturally distributed by hurricanes and floods...

There are several companies that offer Ipomoea imperati plants...


TTY,...


Ron

i wasnt agreeing or disagreeing with anything just here along our beaches if its on the sand dunes it is off limits due to erosion control.

now if its growing on the side of the road its fair game to me to go pick seeds. just know on dunes its a no no because they ae trying to save the beaches at certain places.

Marie, Thanks for sharing your information. I found it very interesting and informative.

Living near the beaches here on the east coast of Florida, I will concur what Marie and others have said about the beach erosion issues and it being illegal to remove plants that are used for such prevention. But, if it's on the side of the road away from any eroding areas, should be fair game in my humble opinion.

Yes,although Ipomoea imperati is a widely distributed plant and per se is not an endangered or protected plant,removing I.imperati from some of the beaches is understandably prohibited because it prevents erosion by holding the beaches together......it is the beaches that are the primary focus of the protection implementation...

Ipomoea imperati is available as plants by at least several companies...and that might be the best way to acquire the species at this point...

imzadi try this link maybe not exactly the same but close.
http://summerhillseeds.com/yellow-morning-glory-ipomoea-hederifolia-lutea-p-351.html

And truthfully why start an arguement,the dear girl just said she liked it and would some day like to have one.She never said she was going to go ravage anything.Just be nice to each other.

synda - Thanks for sharing your insights into the discussions here on the forum...where arguments in the form of offering reasons for and against any particular subject are the essence of any living Forum...

There is no hostility,if that is how you are interpreting our discussion and clarifying the difference between protecting a beach by prohibiting the removal of the plants as compared to any plant having protected status is not tantamount to saying anyone is 'ravaging' anything...

Terry has often reminded the members "Never assume malice"...

Great reminder...(!)

Do you grow Morning Glories or otherwise have anything about Morning Glories to share (?)


TTY,...


Ron

No hostility here that I can read ...

If I had seeds for this glory, I'd certainly share them Marie. Unfortunately, I don't. I haven't seen much in the way of Beach Glories since the Hurricanes of 2004 hit here locally. Maybe they are endangered here currently? LOL! :-)

imazdi... i have a few seeds of some yellow flowered species... mainly merremia... if you would like a try some?

Colin

Becky - Ipomoea imperati is spread all over the Pacific and Atlantic area...this is a plant that would be difficult to remove from the Earth at this point even if someone wanted to...

Generally - Just trying to keep the info straight because it could lead into people thinking the plant is protected instead of the beaches...
I find that it is good to maintain a focus on the material presented and not directed against any person...being mindful not to interpret in an overly personal way...because there are no 'personal attacks'...

I'd likely try to capture one of those I.imperati plants myself before the mercenaries got to me...


TTY,...


Ron

There was a beautiful purple flowering variety in Fiji... just gorgeous and extremely prolific... it was EVERYWHERE... lol... the morning glory is basically like kudzu there, you can see it engulfing villages... they probably wouldn't care if you picked some there... lol...
Brittany

wish i had one to take over my yard but if its like kudzu may have to rethink it. cant turn away a glory. we have these blue wild ones they seem to appear everywhere over the state. if you have a yard you eventually will have it in your yard. hehe



like the kudzu flower but dont need it either. hehe

FrangipaniAz - The Ipomoea species with 'purple' flowers that is often 'rampant' in the Islands is either Ipomoea cairica or Ipomoea indica...
they both have perennial rootstocks and will proliferate rapidly in tropical conditions, although neither species is troublesome in the temperate zones as the actual roots will not survive freezing...
mulched or otherwise protected roots will withstand some above ground freezing,but whatever portions of the actual root that freeze will perish..


TTY,...


Ron

Interesting... They used the morning glories there as a cover for military equipment... it apparently got out of hand...
Brittany

Ron - What is the best way to grow the Ipomoea indica MG for tropical zones? In a pot? Since it is a perennial, I don't want it to become invasive in my yard. It is really a beautiful vine.

Brittany - If the military used the plants as an intended cover for the military equipment...then it would seem that they knew in advance that it would grow well enough to achieve their purpose which was to cover the equipment...

Becky - The Ipomoea indica spreads mainly by the above ground runners that encounter moist hospitable conditions along the ground surface and consequently take root and of course if the seeds spread around in an unwanted manner...but as long as you don't allow the runners to take root , the main root system would cause few if any new plants to emerge...so,be sure to collect any seeds and don't allow the runners to root...

Ipomoea indica is now considered native to Florida...


TTY,...


Ron

Ron - Thanks for that information. I really do like the I. indica vine. Antoinette shared some seeds with me and highly recommended them for coverage and because she loved the blooms. From the photos I have seen, I am mesmerized by them and want to try growing at least 1 vine. I wonder if they are resistant to Rust fungus?

That is my plan this year - to grow other vines besides I. nils to determine what will thrive here and what has a short life cycle because of the Rust. That is about the only thing besides bugs that harm my MGs. So I am really interested in Rust resistent MGs.

So far I have found Moonflowers, Blue Star (tricolor), and I. purpureas to be resistant.

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imzadi I am interested in your native invasive glories there.. *hint hint* LOL

Deb when i see them pop up in my yard agian will make sure collect some seeds of it and take its pics. its a light blue thing but does really well here in the heat.

Becky,

I don't ever recall seeing Rust on my Ipomoea indica.
It is a great vine with gorgeous blooms and I really do enjoy mine.

Emma