debsroots, did you ask me about the heart shaped vine? it is a moonlight hydrangea. i grow it as a clem structure. thought i saw the question, then couldn't find the posting..oh well. it has performed well for me. here is another shot of it with alba luxurians in bloom.
it is a gappy, leggy hydrangea (at least for me) and is a nice support for clems.
That pic makes me think my viburnum would be a good clem trellis.....I can't stand that thing so why not make it pretty. Thanks!
-Kim
I think a clematis sticky somewhere is a great idea.
Maggie
that's the spirit bluekat. i have a spoonerii growing thru viburnam, at one end of a long hedge. i plan to add others on the hedge this spring.
your shrubs make good support and protection for clems.
here are some other ways i grow them in my garden
thru loose evergreeens (sugar candy thru white pine)
on dense evergreeens (albertas as support for ville de lyon, niobe, marie boiselotte)
in hydrangea (many examples with the guernsey cream on common climbing hydrangea a signature in my garden) posted a 08 photo AGAIN
last time for any 08 photos, almost time for my 09 season to kick in
on arbor vitae (many examples)
up a old locust tree (with thorns, which the plants love to grab)
at the drip line of a 15 foot hemlock tree of (have polish spirit here )
at dripline of a 15 foot norwalk spuce (hagley hybrid does well here),pope jp II up the trunk of a curly willow....
clems do better sometimes with being able to naturalize on supports of nature vs being tied in and forced. thinking along these lines really lets you see how many clems you could take to accent your landscaping vs being the focal point or requiring a new bed to be dug.
How do you determine which type of clematis you have----I mean, does it need to be pruned in the spring or not? I was given a couple----with no instructions. I understand that there are 3 main types. Can you tell by the leaves?
Shirleyd
Shirley..The site we lovingly refer to as our "Clematis Bible" is COTW..aka "Clematis on the Web"..Richard and Ian have a wonderful site chocked full of information from pics to pruning types,zones..etc
http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/
another way to determing is this:..Pruning group 2's have a flush of blooms in early spring and then again in late summer/early fall..they bloom on vines produced in previous seasons..these are ONLY pruned to shape or keep in bounds (These are the large sized Blooms)
Pruning group 3's are composed of your viticellas and are hard pruned each late winter/early spring for they will bloom on the new vines grown during that season...(These are the smaller sized blooms)...so noticing bloom times can help you figure which pruning group they belong to..Montana's/Alpinas are pruning group 1's that bloom in early Spring...Hope this helps...Jeanne
I think I've had the one I thought was Henryi more than 5 years, but I really can't remember.
I'd like a sticky!
Jeanne TX------thanks for your help.
Shirleyd
There are collectively several posting on this thread alone from various contributing members such as ShirleyMD1, Jeanne_Tx and ClematisGuru could be on our 'Sticky' Post. Has anyone written to Admn.?
2racingboys: Kristy, I've just subscribed to this website and spent over 2 hours trying to figure things out... a sticky thread on clematis (whatever that is) would be great!! My 2 Jackmanni's from last year each have a bud and I'm thrilled because they died off last year and I have no idea how to keep them alive this year. My girlfriend's Jackmanni just flourish and she does nothing!!
So, thanks! Hopefully, I'll have more time to find more info here.
Barb23, what's yur zone?
jackmanii is funny for being so popular. i have always had trouble establishing them, have each type established now, and jackmanii rubra on order, but a friend and neighbor has a huge one (the same one who told me the hole needed to be 6 feet deep when i didn't even know what a perennial was!)
i have always have wilt back and fussy jackmaniis, including jackmanii alba, mrs george jackmanii, jackmanii superba. but probably only the normal clem curve, i just expected more, more quickly becasur of hers. anyways mine are quite nice now.
Yes, for a sticky. Dont forget to add helpmefind.com-- a great site for roses and clematis.
i was not familiar with helpmefind.com for clematis. just took a peek. while i am partial to COTW, this does have good info on it. after 4 clicks i was asked about joining or donations.
i would need to use it more to determine if had that type of value for me, but interesting to learn about resources out there.
8 years ago when i got in to clems, resources were more scarce and Mary Toomey's Clematis Encyclpedia was a must. I still use my books quite a bit, but the on line sources that we have are fantastic.
sewwatch, thanks for mentioning this resource.
I find that helpmefind.com was a wonderful resource for finding Roses, but I never used it for finding Clematis. Thanks for the "heads up"!
I bought seeds of C. tangutica 'Radar Love' from Parks Seed Co. I had one sprout and it is now 4" high and growing in a 3" pot.
As much as I love them for their flowers, I don't know much about them, especially 'Radar Love. All I know is about the soil and the pruning. Can any of you tell me more about this variety.
Does it need full sun, or part shade?
When can I expect blooms from this seed sown variety?.
Can it be grown as a groundcover, or does it have to have a trellis?
Should I keep it potted for awhile?
Any information would be appreciated.
Here is the photo taken 4/20/09.
I would be glad to contact admin for a clem sticky if you like. There are others much more knowledgeable on the subject but i'l be happy to get it going if you like. Suggested topics would be sources, association links, pruning, books. What others do you suggest?
Maggie
blomma, full sun. it is a great ground cover type, mounding , will climb, but will be full, messy and large.
viewing you had only one germinate i would wait to plant out till it is in a #1 pot, fully rooted out. you can place plat pot in another container, buried if you want something more ornamental. i have some very small plants i bought that i will be doing this with vs putting right in ground. i do nto have a mature radar love to show you but will post a photo of kugota (golden tiara) which is a simiar type clematis. it is good for a retaining will to spill over.
for your zone, i think you need to get it in the ground in sept, but probably better to grow it in the pot til next spring if you have a warm place to over winter it? once it is established you should have a good strong plant, but check your zone against the info on clematis on the web. you will find all the info you need there.
good luck.
i saw a posting from someone named terri (who is DG admin) on the rose forum, where there is a stickey at the top of the thread list. i sent her a d mail and asked her how we get a stickey on the clematis forum, or why we have been unable to get one, let's see if this helps.
Guru, when we added a sticky over at the Cacti forum, we worked through Melody. This is a dmail she sent describing the info that should be gathered for the sticky to be created:
"The sticky should be for information and FAQ's. We can't put links to individual sources in a sticky. This would give the impression that DG recommends these sources over others... and we have to remain impartial.
A sticky should be for cultural information and dealing with pests & disease. We can link to the Watchdog and urge folks to check out the cacti vendors there, but listing sources gives newbies the wrong impression.
The how to's are what the sticky should be for."
After she provided guidance, a thread was opened that was strictly to post the links to specific information (past posts, outside references, etc.) that the forum users would find helpful... no discussion on the thread at all. Then, when the organizer was satisfied that the sticky had sufficient information, Melody was contacted again and she transferred all that info and created the sticky for us.
The way we got around creating a vendor list was to put vendor recommendations and information in individual journals and then add links to the private journals inside the sticky. That way, it's obvious that it's an individual's endorsement of the vendor and not an endorsement by DG.
HTH! Ev =)
see new thread i just put up re out stickey which will be up today
To be clear..the sticky will point you in the right direction for specific cultivar information (in PlantFiles), where-to-buy (from Plantscout and the entire Garden Watchdog list of Clematis specialists), books (in the Garden Bookworm), etc.
But a thread (stickied or not) can't/won't take the place of those databases and directories--that's what they do best. A forum is where to ask questions and chat, but PlantFiles is the best place to share (or find) cultivar-specific information, such as pruning group, sun/shade requirements, zones, photos, growing notes, your ZIP codes, etc.
Blomma take care with the C. tangutica 'Radar Love'. It self sows like crazy. I took it out 3 years ago and I'm still weeding out seedlings.
self sowing , and layering occur with all these big species. but that is a different success ratio than buying or obtaining seed and germinating. they like being near the mother ship, don't we all?
ClematisGuru Thanks so much for the info regarding Radar Love. It is my first Clemitis. Would love to get one of those other beauties but lack the room to grow a vine.
dahlianut Thanks for that warning. I'm surprised since it was hard to germinate the seeds indoors. My daughter will love to have some plants from it.
Does anyone know if I should pinch the growing point at this stage. It already looks like it wants to vine.
no one lacks the room to grow clems send some pics of your yard and i will point out some locations.
CG, you are the champion enabler for a plant addict like me!!!! =P
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