Has anyone ever seen a variegated 4 o clock?

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

Dany, Those are very pretty! I love the orange one at the bottom.Yes, later on next year or the year after we should trade.

It will take some time maybe a year or two to look at this to see if it comes back the same and if and what knd of seeds it makes. I`m going to study it thoroughly first. My promise is good and it will take a year or two.

Karen

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

I begin to get seeds toward fall so that is why it will take a while...

Mesilla Park, NM

Well, lets hope it comes back... once they do though, the 4 O'clocks spit out seeds like you would not believe. So, here's hoping ... I have a couple in the yard now, yellow, and some pink ones.. In CA I had the neatest ones, they were cream colored and then white ones with yellow. I gave all the seeds away when I moved here and sent them in a box Round Robin..

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

They are annoying too because they make lots of volunteer seedlings to weed out. The plus side is I read they are poison to japanese beetles. I see dead beetles close to the 4 o clocks and I don`t have a problem with japanese beetle infestation so maybe it is true.

Karen

Dang, the pest control industry ought to do research on those properties that kill Japanese beetles, they'd make a fortune.

It's too bad the beetles are so destructive, the adults are so attractive in an entomological way.

Joseph

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

I agree because if that were possible it could result in a organic pest control substance without the invasion of 4 o clock seedlings. lol!

So what time of year do the Mirabilis plants re-emerge at your part of LA, Karen? Isn't it warming up by now? We're having a veritable heat wave in MD/DE and I saw my first Robin last weekend, always a sure sign of Spring!

Mesa, AZ(Zone 9b)

Wow! Praying here Karen.....I hope, I hope, I hope it comes back!

Here in my zone, it really has to heat up good for the 4 o'clock tubers to start growing again, I'm sure it's because they're so deep.....seedlings have been germinating all winter long though :(

Lodi, CA(Zone 8b)

I could never get four o'clock seeds to germinate, believe it or not. They're supposed to be a sure thing.

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

Well, they didn`t come back. I don`t see not one variegated four o clock. Maybe I`ll get another seedling later on fromt his group of plants. Sorry folks.

Stratford, CT

Not sure how this happened but every year my Four O'clock garden produces 90% variegated. I have shared many of these seeds. I am a new member of Dave's Garden and am enjoying all the info I am finding. Enjoy the pics.

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Stratford, CT

Here is another view of my Four O'Clocks.

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szarvas, Hungary

Hi Sterling1,
Good pics, but we are looking for variegated leaf pants - it's very rare !

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

Yes, and sadly mine has not reappeared this year. I hope for another one in the future.

Karen

szarvas, Hungary

Hi Karen,
If there were they will reappear, the problem is when?

Lime light 4 o'clock.

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Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

Hi Dany,

I worry that the root rotted and the plant died. So now I hope maybe I`ll get another volunteer in that area where they grow. I look for them every day.

Karen

(Daniel) Mount Orab, OH(Zone 6b)

dany, in response to Post #6122891, that looks more like a quad-color!!! In response to Post #6106536, the tips are white!!!! I am very impressed!

$100 for seeds?!?! Even I, a bonafide 4:00 fanatic would not pay that much!!! How many seeds and what source?

gardener2005, incredible! I have grown lots of four o' clocks, but have never found varigation to such an extent. Limelight Rose sometimes exibts some varigation, but I have never grown one that has.

Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b)

I hate to write it but the special plant did not come back for me this year. I`m hoping that maybe it will happen again in the future. I was growing two different kinds together a white flowered and a fuchsia. They must have crossed because year before last I started seeing the pink and white striped flowers from volunteer seedlings. Then this variegated one appeared as a volunteer and so far I haven`t seen another one like it. I will keep checking the same bed where the first variegated seedling appeared.

Karen

szarvas, Hungary

Another beautiful image of Mirabilis Jalapa with variegated foliage.

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szarvas, Hungary

I try to buy on Yahoo Japan few seeds of something that looks like the variegated foliage.Very very bad picture.
It's a trap?

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Spokane, WA(Zone 5b)

the seed may reseed itself, wherever it dropped - keep an eye out for it in the nearby area. - mine do. I've had blooms be speckled, or variegated like, but never the leaves.... That's very cool!

Kingsport, TN

My Four O'Clocks have variegation this year! I have read the posts and am confused... Will the seeds from these produce variegated flowers next year? Or, is it a toss up?

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(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

It is probably a toss up. Though the chance to get variegated blooms is higher with seeds from those blooms.

Göppingen, Germany(Zone 7b)

To my experience, at least the red/yellow flowers are completely stable - I only have those, and no other Mirabilis in the surrounding gardens and every single seedling (and there are tons of those everywhere) kept that feature.

as to the orange flower in one of the pictures above: the appear rarely but randomly on the red/yellow striped plants - about three or four single blooms on my ~ ten plants per year. So forget about single flower pictures when judging mirabillis ;-)

szarvas, Hungary

For me the variegated foliage is not genetically transmissible!
What is in fashion today .... it's the double four o'clock!

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Texarkana, TX


I first saw variegated blooms of four o'clock's high on the mountain in Erice, Sicily while on vacation last October, 2014
They were such beautiful yellow and pink blooms , I was so excited, I cannot remember for sure if the foliage was variegated , but believe it was white & green.
Are these four o'clocks available in the U. S.?

Sierra Foothills, CA(Zone 8a)

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For me the variegated foliage is not genetically transmissible!
What is in fashion today .... it's the double four o'clock!


That is almost as bad, IMHO, as the double primrose ("hose in hose") or double Canterbury Bells...not my taste anyway. There are plants for everyone, I guess that is why we have so many different kinds.

I think the variegated foliage on the four o'clock is lovely.

Ottawa, KS(Zone 5b)

Hi Dany,

I like the picture of the "double" four o'clocks, but I have never seen that configuration in real life. I expected double four o'clocks to look something like double morning glories. I prefer zinnias to four o'clocks for several reasons. But I do remember liking four o'clocks when I was a kid. We had a nice bed of them, which included the striped and broken colored kinds. I don't think any of them had variegated foliage, though. But I am not a fan of variegated foliage.

I breed zinnias as a hobby, and I am working with new zinnia flower forms.

ZM

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Sierra Foothills, CA(Zone 8a)

Zen_Man ~ Very lovely zinnias. I don't usually like zinnias as they are so stiff, but yours look very pretty.

Ottawa, KS(Zone 5b)

Hi Evelyn,

Thanks for the kind words. I also don't like the classic zinnia flower form, in which the petals overlap closely like shingles on a roof. I like for my zinnia blooms to have some "air" with petals spaced more loosely so you can sort of see through the bloom. I also hope to make some progress toward a strain of "spider flowered" zinnias with long, thin openly spaced petals.

ZM

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Astatula, FL(Zone 9b)

I have one one and don't know where it came from. But has come up again this year. You can see the pic on flickr.

Astatula, FL(Zone 9b)

I have one one and don't know where it came from. But has come up again this year. You can see the pic on flickr.

I have quite a few variegated Four O'Clocks in my garden and have been collecting the seeds. I have probably collected over 100 by now and they have just recently started forming so I imagine there will be plenty more

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