I love Morning Glories but have quit growing them.

OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA(Zone 4b)

As I have gotten older, there is no energy to do clean-up in the Fall and some have been so invasive here they come back with a vengeance.

I have a slew of seed that I will send to one person who d-mails me first. If others d-mail me too, I will send the list to the person that receives them so they can share. This would be more for a newbie as most of you "oldies" already have the same seeds as me. That being said, there are also many packets of unusual Japanese morning glories that I got from Japan. They will be in there also.

All told, there are more than 50 pkg of MG but some of the common ones are duplicates. You can use those for trading. I spent 2 hours today sorting seed so they are ready to be packaged and mailed.

Arlene

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Arlene - I would love to have your seeds. I am notorious for sharing seeds with others as well. You have dmail.

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

I wasn't quick enough ... they are already spoken for! :-)

Nilwood, IL(Zone 5b)

Becky, I have mixed Morning Glories if you want them. Dmail me. BEV

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Bev - What species are they? I am mainly looking for Ipomoea nils (I. purpureas tend to be a little invasive in my zone), especially any Japanese cultivars. I have seeds for many of the more common store packaged seeds sold in the USA. The Japanese MGs are a little harder to find here in the U.S.

Thanks for the generous offer! :-)

Nilwood, IL(Zone 5b)

Becky, These are all mixed. I have no idea hon what they are. Bev

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Bev - Did you grow them? Or are these seeds you received?

Nilwood, IL(Zone 5b)

I grew them but just collected all seeds and mixed them.

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Did you happen to take any photos of the blooms and vines? :-)

Are you sure you don't want to keep the seeds for next Spring to grow out again? If not, I would be delighted to take them off your hands! :-) I might be able to discern what species of MG they are by the seeds. But then again ... maybe not! LOL!

Nilwood, IL(Zone 5b)

I had 4 differant kind on the legs of my small windmill and they grew up and covered my cannas and even up into a Serviceberry tree and stopped the windmill so don't want them there. Some were JMs. I only want the big blue ones any more to put on the dog pen. I have a couple of pics. You are welcome to them. BEV
Some were real dark purple I know. This is the only pic I have.

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(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Bev - Looks like Fuji no Beni! Very pretty! Am sending you a dmail. :-)

Clinton Township, MI(Zone 6a)

I grew Morning Glory for the first time this year. I don't know what kind (pretty royal purple). I love them. But as I removed the spent vines this past weekend I thought to myself that I might be very sorry I grew them! There were hundreds of seeds flying all over!! I'm sure I won't need to plant seeds next year!! Or for the next hundred years!

Jennifer

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

LOL! You might be right!

Do you know what cultivar of MG they were? Any photos you could post here so we might be able to ID them for you? If they were Ipomoea purpurea, then you WILL get volunteers next year! If they were Ipomoea nils, it's not as conclusive if the seeds will survive a harsh winter ...

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

jvw - The Ipomoea purpurea must be severed before it produces too many seeds...

There are many different species of Morning Glories and the majority of them have seeds which will not survive the Ann Arbor Winters...e.g., Ipomoea tricolor
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=Ipomoea&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=tricolor&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&searcher%5Bgrex%5D=&search_prefs%5Bblank_cultivar%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=cultivar&images_prefs=with&Search=Search
won't survive the Winter there
too bad you didn't check in with the MG Forum here 1st to get some good advice before you planted...

Likely that a better choice of species would yield very different and hence >more satisfying results...

TTY,...

Ron

Clinton Township, MI(Zone 6a)

Thanks for the replies! I still have the seed packet so I will check for detailed info.

Yes, I should have come here to research first. But I've only recently been able to access this site reliably AND I find it so huge that I become overwhelmed with all the info. But I am glad I found this forum. I love flowering vines!

Don't get me wrong, my first post was kind of tongue and cheek...I really like the MG that I planted and really if it does keep coming back its not so bad. I can choose better in the future now.

I'll go search for a picture now. Not sure I have any good close ups.

Jennifer

Clinton Township, MI(Zone 6a)

Here is one I found quick. I'll keep looking for a better one. Obviously there are two other vines on this frame....

Jennifer

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Nilwood, IL(Zone 5b)

I had mine so thick that I couldn't eaven see the blooms. BEV

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Jennifer - Your vine definitely looks like I. purpurea to me. Possibly Star of Yelta? Maybe? You will have volunteers next year. Just pull them up if you don't want them. But catch them when they are seedlings for easier removal. :-) You'll have to check the area constantly as they can germinate right away or much later. I know ... been there, done that! LOL!

Bev - Did some of yours have the heart shaped leaves like Jennifer's?

Clinton Township, MI(Zone 6a)

Thank you beckygardener. I did find I had lots of seedlings even this year. Here is a pic from earlier in the season, July 23rd as opposed to the other taken Aug 8th. Better definition on the flowers. Strange, I take tons of pics and I thought I had taken many more of this MG. But I guess they are only stored in my mind!

I'll still look at the seed packet to confirm the details.

thanks again!
Jennifer

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(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Jennifer - Your MG looks really nice growing with the Black Eyed Susan vine. I made a major blunder recently. I had a BES vine on my back fence and accidently severed the vine from the root when I was weeding. Made me sick! The vine is now wilted on the fence because I killed it. :-( :-( Sad reminder that I was too rushed and should've been paying better attention ... (sigh)

Nilwood, IL(Zone 5b)

I don't know for sure but I think so. BEV
Looks like it huh??? Some did.

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(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Bev - Oh yes! The vine definitely has heart-shaped leaves. My bet is some cultivar of I. purpurea! You'll likely get some volunteers in the Spring ... :-)

Nilwood, IL(Zone 5b)

OK!!!!! Thanks. BEV

Clinton Township, MI(Zone 6a)

Yes, I had BES vine and a cardinal climber that I bought started at my local nursery on this frame. I loved the contrast with the MG but the cardinal climber really didn't do so well for me. And when the MG kicked in it really took over. But that was fine. I really love the leaves as much as the blooms. Taking down these vines was a major undertaking!!! I had used a bunch of fishing line to help them climb and I tried not to disturb it to save work next year. NO LUCK! Oh well, can't wait to see what next year brings!

Jennifer

OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA(Zone 4b)

That was my dilemma; the ones that are invasive grew the best for me and it was a lot of work taking down the vines in the Fall.

Even though I enjoyed the large blooms of the Japanese ones - they didn't bloom as soon and didn't grow as much as I would have like them to in my climate here.

But then there are a lot of flowers I plant from seed here that reach their best show when Fall is approaching.

Want to try some orange Salvia coccinea, Arlene, for a trade for a packet of what you have left? I have some other salvias that are not as labor intensive as asagao...Can you d-mail a list to me?

I was just thinking about you as I was storing some Asagiri seeds I collected from vines that came from a packet I got on that co-op you organized. They were spectacular...got the classic Asagiri blizzard and then got one that was quite stunning (see below). Thanks again for organizing that co-op!

Joseph

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Here's the orange coccinea...it's a keeper in my opinion!

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OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA(Zone 4b)

Hi Joseph,
Good to see you here; I've already promised the seeds away, but guess what . . . in cleaning my garage today, I found a few more. I'll have to dmail you tomorrow morning with a list-better finish cleaning the garage in case I might find more.

Also have a dental appt tomorrow which may be cancelled if we have freezing rain like we did today. So if you haven't heard from me by tomorrow late afternoon . . . just Dmail me and give me a gentle nudge.

a

Jackson, SC(Zone 8a)

wow wasnt here too day and missed it.

Clinton Township, MI(Zone 6a)

I checked my pack of MG seeds last night. Not much info on it. Just cheap seeds I got on impulse when I was at the hardware store last summer. No botanical name. Just says "Grandpa Ott Morning Glory" Heirloom variety.

Jennifer

Jacksonville, AR(Zone 7b)

Joseph, You're asagiri is stunning, a real beauty

Thanks Jackie, we are in a mutual admiration society.

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Joseph - All I can say ... you hit the jackpot when Arlene did the co-op! Your asagiri vine is most amazing! Thanks for sharing a photo of that lovely bloom! :-)

The flower in real life, Becky, was almost un-real, so different from the classic Asagiri pattern (see below). Those packages of commercially offered seeds from Japan have some treasures to be discovered!

Joseph

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(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Joseph - Do you suppose it was a cross from open pollination? Even the usual Asagiri is pretty! :-) It reminds me of the Hanafubuki that I am currently growing. I am just amazed by the different blooms on one vine. Something about those Japanese pinks ...

It could have gotten mixed in by accident too...only the Shadow knows for sure. LOL

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Jennifer -

Placing some sheets of large thick plastic (e.g., the type that new furniture is covered in),light colored plastic bags that have been split opened or some other type of drop cloth around will help to prevent the seeds from spreading as you take the vines down ,if you don't severe the vines of the prolific annuals before they produce many pods...

Arlene and to any others similarly concerned...


There are most definitely fear free enjoyable choices with Morning Glories other than:

perhaps prematurely 'concluding' that all MG's that may do well in the colder climates are invasive...in view of the limited number of truly different species that you may have grown...

Here are some suggestions and expanded choices as to species which will not successfully resow via alot of seeds in the colder climates...

Ipomoea cairica - clones are prolific bloomers and produce little to no seeds - the roots will not survive very cold wet winters
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/53527/
Ipomoea indica - clones are prolific bloomers and produce little to no seeds - the roots will not survive
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/54966/
Ipomoea muelleri - seeds do not survive very cold wet winters
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/126495/
Ipomoea nil - Maisugata and Yaguruma usually do well and do not usually prolifically self re-sow
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/106236/
Ipomoea nil - Minibar Rose usually does very well in the cooler climates and does not usually prolifically self re-sow
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/51637/
Ipomoea nil - the double types do not produce many seeds
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/40306/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/138725/
Ipomoea obscura - seeds do not survive very cold wet winters
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/2635/
Ipomoea pandurata - some strains are self-incompatible and produce few if any seeds...does not self re-sow prolifically
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/53273/
Ipomoea parasitica - seeds do not survive very cold wet winters
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/107607/
Ipomoea sagittata - roots will not survive in very cold zones
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/70856/
Ipomoea setosa - seeds do not survive very cold wet winters
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/106134/
Ipomoea transvaalensis - seeds do not survive very cold wet winters
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/112102/
Ipomoea tricolor - seeds do not survive very cold wet winters
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=Ipomoea&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=tricolor&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&searcher%5Bgrex%5D=&search_prefs%5Bblank_cultivar%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=genus&images_prefs=with&Search=Search
Ipomoea wrightii - seeds do not survive very cold wet winters
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/193403/
Merremia dissecta - seeds do not survive very cold wet winters
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/87166/
Merremia verecunda - seeds do not survive very cold wet winters
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/127272/

There are in addition to the above species other perennial species that can be successfully grown in containers and overwintered indoors...

Ipomoea adenioides
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/209949/
Ipomoea albivenia
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/164032/
Ipomoea longifolia
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/86517/
Ipomoea macrorhiza
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/65128/
Ipomoea platensis
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/107204/
Ipomoea saintroanensis
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/168670/
Merremia aurea
Turbina oblongata
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/139556/


Have you actually tried the species that I suggested above (?),if you haven't may I suggest that you consider trying them as others in the colder climates have enjoyed success with the species mentioned...

There are many more different natural species which have not as yet been introduced into cultivation and as many of these natural species are tropical to semi-tropical it is likely that more species will be discovered that will be suitable for gardening without being invasive in the colder climates...

I am continually working towards increasing the number of different natural species available to home gardeners...progress towards the goals of increasing diversity of species available to home gardeners is sometimes slower than ideal,but thanks to the help of those who have contributed towards the stated goals progress is definitely steady...


Thanks for your contributions...


Regards,


Ron

thanks for all that information and links ron....

i'd like to know which species you think would be most suitable for introducing to gardeners... so i can try and find them out and try them :-)

colin

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Colin - I want to respect and not hijack Arlene's thread,so will contact you privately in response to your question...

Thanks

Ron

OC, CA & Twin Lakes , IA(Zone 4b)

Not a problem, Ron. The seeds are all spoken for so you can talk about all thing JMG.

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