"Newbie" question on mg blooms

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evr Toronto, ON(Zone 5b) Nov 04, 2008

okay, this might be a stupid question but, how long do I.nil close and open on average? I know it depends on the cultivar etc. I've only Xiongs that are blooming, and the first couple of blooms on the first day I emasculated and pollinated. And then I was told that the picotee/margin gets larger as the bloom matures so I wanted to see this. My fourth bloom i emasculated BUT I did not take out the petals. I don't know now if this bloom is pollinated or just closed. Is the picture below just a closed bloom or has it been pollinated? it's been closed for about 24 hours now.....

They are grown inside and the lighting has been kinda off because of the weather outside (natural lighting) and my lamps inside. Sometimes the blooms they don't open until mid afternoon and stays open the next day.

Please help? =/

Eliz

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RON_CONVOLVULACEAE Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b) Nov 05, 2008

Eliz - The closing of the corolla has no relation to fertilization...you just have to wait and see if the area of the ovary begins to swell and if the pedicel remains on the plant...

TTY,...

Ron

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evr Toronto, ON(Zone 5b) Nov 07, 2008

oh okay thanks ron. I read that relationship between fertilization and wilting of the bloom somewhere..I guess they're mistaken. I didn't notice that the pedicel gets shorter when the seeds are ripening but i did notice that the sepals and the whole part beneath it gets really yellowish-green if not fertilized. Thanks for the info ron.

Eliz

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RON_CONVOLVULACEAE Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b) Nov 08, 2008

ever - You mentioned:

"I read that relationship between fertilization and wilting of the bloom somewhere..I guess they're mistaken"

I would say so,especially since the blooms are usually open for less than 1 day in natural outdoor conditions ...how much sooner would the corolla close on a MG that has been fertilized as opposed to one which has not been fertilized...??...???

"I didn't notice that the pedicel gets shorter when the seeds are ripening "

That's good since I have also never read, seen nor stated anything about the pedicels getting 'shorter' anywhere at any time...

"...i did notice that the sepals and the whole part beneath it gets really yellowish-green if not fertilized. "

Good observation as the loss of green color is the prelude to the tissue dying / falling off and being naturally excised and if not fertilized...

TTY,...

Ron


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