a couple of links

it's cold and snowing here today... so i thought i'd play with google translate.. and the text for this picture said "Such as fresh snow is white" :-)

anyway i don't know if these have been posted before... but i found the picture on one of these sites:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.poporo.ne.jp%2F%7Ekondoh%2Fasagao.htm&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fan.hi-ho.ne.jp%2Fwakasato%2Fasagao_tenjikai.html&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en

Very interesting websites! Thanks for posting those links.

Has anyone gotten seeds and grown any of the "peony" MGs? Do thye go by a different name in English if sold here in the USA? I saw several vines/blooms in this year and last years shows from the second link. Some real beauts!!!

CEEJ~ VERY COOL, I LOVE THE MUSEUM~!
Some of translations are always worth a grin. An old friend/co-worker and I had a web page (long forgotton now) that we checked every day for new "mis-translations", lol. Seriously, though ~some really nice links and, man, what I would pay to go to the Mornnig Glory Museum...We need one in the US! .. or is there?
:Darren

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhsss very nice! Love this! Thanks! ;) Debra

I really liked the second one (had seen the first one but enjoyed the return visit)!

If you find a reference web site that gives solid information on seed description for the different JMG cultivars, I'd like to see it. Isn't surfing the web like a treasure hunt sometimes?

Joseph

I find a very good idea for 2009 , not very esthetics but practical .
Dany

I think walking between the two rows of vines would be very pleasing, after they have grown, blocking the view but having the sun filter through ~
:D

Dany - I actually like that idea of rows of MGs! I kind grow mine in a row along my picket fence. With two rows, that would certainly make a beautiful tunnel of vines! :-)

thanks everyone.... some more.... enjoy :-)

TTP's Garden.... this one has growing tips etc.
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.ttp37.com/garden/IndexAsagao.html&usg=ALkJrhhBGicJYnRhrrGWJUK5xDuu-qyZzQ

"The Japanese Morning Glory (= Asagao)"... Home Page (lots of pics)
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/index.html&usg=ALkJrhjuSu_2rPstwdz1uj-PzSEzFN92cg

this one has pics to help you identify cotyledons, leaves etc.
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.geocities.jp/xkamada/futaba1998.html&usg=ALkJrhhB2kFlfuE1lRXDwqqhUxRkLsu-5g

the hundred flowers morning glory (pics)
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://chiba.cool.ne.jp/koncyan/&usg=ALkJrhg_7kW3W0cJYChMGAWXcksUglog7A

edited to add more links :-)

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how high are the steel supports, Dany?
:Darren

This one it's 6' or 8' tall
There are no pic of what 's look like one month late , perhaps a realy realy mix-border .
Depend whish vine you use , strong vine like purpurea, tricolor , Tie Dye or some strong nil like Chocolate silk - Mt. Fuji , it will quickly be a disaster.
With medium vine like Akatsuki , Heina, Hama it's a good solution.

another arrangements.

hi dany that second pic shows soaker hoses or something similar...
how far apart do you think the vines are planted?

colin

The pic come from Japan . perhaps a seeds compagny production field.
I think in the line 2,5 ' and 6 ' between two line .

If they must make the hand pollinisation they need an army hummingbirds or Filipinos ?
They have a trick !

Those poles look like bamboo, (?) (which does of course come in many sizes)... I think the distances are a great estimate. Hummingbirds or butterflies etc., they have to have a huge amount of wild pollinators but would that not screw up the gene pool? ~unless the pollinators have favorites...could be enclosed too like a giant butterfly tent, though it does not look that way.
:D

Colin et al., Check out the incredible flower forms on this web site (found on Eiji Nitasaka's web site):

http://74.125.93.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/woodprint/_large-size/36-kasen/index.html&usg=ALkJrhiHiUtKvIWgnkrlG7LaXgBS59cZmQ

There are several pages I found just clicking on the links to see what loaded...amazing!

Joseph

cheers gerris...

do you think they really had yellow blooms or is it a bit of artistic license?

I would think they had yellow flowers as shown. What a shame those strains and the others in those paintings were lost.

apparently they did have yellow flowers all that time ago and as gerris says they became "lost"....
heres a link to yonedas site where they have a couple of pictures of a 'yellow' mg
http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/asagao/yoneda_db/E/DOCs/future.html
so maybe we will see a yellow mg some day :-)

colin

and heres a thread about yellow mg's
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/771298/
scroll down....

Ah to get our hands on some of the Q1211 strain, what a nice yellow flower!

gerris... to get my hands on any of the 'lost' ones would be a dream they're just wonderous....
i love those old japanese prints...

Look at the vivid colours of the MGs on this page!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nobuflickr/sets/72157606885276375/

Ceej1963, i was thinking that those packets would make a killer wallpaper or some sort of curtain, unreal...or print on thin sheets of metal and do a windchime! sorry~ the brain does wander....lol
:Darren

fernman23... i've seen some of those prints for sale on ebay..... christmas is coming :-)

gerris2... the q numbers? do you know what they mean... are they registered strains? and if so who registers them? ... just wondering

Colin,

I do believe the hort scientists / botanists at Kyushu University either established that registry of JMG strains/lines or took it over from a previous entity who had established that system. I hope someone more knowledgeable will correct me or add to this answer. If you check the number for this cool JMG it is 0751-5242 is Q751. It is the so-called Ten-Ten JMG you see being marketed on eBay by he who can't be named.

http://209.85.171.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog-large/pages/0751-5242.html&usg=ALkJrhia-JMpe6X71oauvDIfeRdu0KA2iA

Joseph


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i thought it would be something like that gerris...
i think i've got Q751 but i got it as varigated leaves red dots kikyo... i just found the reference on
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/index.html&usg=ALkJrhjuSu_2rPstwdz1uj-PzSEzFN92cg
i also think i found the number to one i got as shibori leaf and bloom.... Q1072
maybe i shouldn't use those numbers unless i'm sure!

and i think i found the right name for chartreuse leaf plum dot kikyo
here http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.ttp37.com/garden/FukkakeKikyou.html&usg=ALkJrhjV8yD9vCm9vG6IJI_P8iM9C9aTGQ
but there wasn't a q number :-(

colin

Look at these unusual flower forms, pretty radical design, yes?

http://72.14.235.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/0402-0014.html&usg=ALkJrhhOocFuAfZ66Fr_kB2QldW5nxkSdg

http://72.14.235.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/0401-0000.html&usg=ALkJrhicgcGCBi3tq5adYlbB_rOee9uRKw

http://72.14.235.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/0419-0012.html&usg=ALkJrhisE1KvC4rAblBP3VRI1RFMHgcIww

http://72.14.235.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/0441-0003.html&usg=ALkJrhhbahWdIBkDBQgbE9cicd8jr4k_pg

http://72.14.235.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/0449-0025.html&usg=ALkJrhh3LK5ITouUEfcaqQOJUcjB4UpTgQ

http://72.14.235.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/0468-4745.html&usg=ALkJrhg1jn9zHccMCOJueRVUjFh5nXuPYQ

http://72.14.235.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/0468-5858.html&usg=ALkJrhiQ8PRJcZf493IxYvu1ZSLw3pMVcg

Could this one be the Plum Dots JMG?

http://72.14.235.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/1205-0001.html&usg=ALkJrhiXoqlG6RUSBf06e1LlgG3AVkyd_Q

Joseph - I like this picture very much also http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/0468-5858.html =). Do you know what that is called?

Dany - the pictures you have posted here:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=5730816 and here
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=5735912

looks like the a real-life scale of my aquarium grow out lol. I just recently prop up the cut bamboo stakes for the NOID mgs... again not for show ;)
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=5751530

Eliz, it is called Ipomoea igottahavit ssp. sounusualensis (in other words, haven't a clue LOL).

LOL LOL. I was already highlighting your "Ipomoea igottahavit ssp. sounusualensis", copying and pasting it and googling it LOL. Thought it was a new sp. LOL

hahahaha gotcha hahahaha

gerris the pic you posted doesn't have the golden leaves and isn't a kikyou... it looks like (not that i'd know... i've never seen one) Kai no Kasumi.... onalee's have a pic....
and thanks for the links...those mutants are my favourite type, i just can't stop looking at them.... i am hoping for similar next year.. i have four types to try but the chances are slim.. but i shall keep trying and hopeing :-)

also i thought all ipomea where ssp. igottahaveit! :-) ...i just hope they're not all called igottakeepit otherwise i'll have to move into the greenhouse so they can have the house....lol

evr... how do you get them to flower in such small spaces? i have read about Photoperiodic Control here:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pagerender.fcgi?artid=1067125&pageindex=4
and here(better)
http://www.journalarchive.jst.go.jp/jnlpdf.php?cdjournal=pjab1945&cdvol=29&noissue=7&startpage=368&lang=en&from=jnlabstract
do you do that?
i thought i might give it a go......

also..... these are really nice.... i want :-)
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/1099-5329.html&usg=ALkJrhgdOs8_9HHyNiPhpko5KFmVJRj2tQ
another angle...
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/1099-0250.html&usg=ALkJrhhbw6uz56uJ0DJL4QWp7laxHYL8dg
this ones the best reverse tube i've seen so far...
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://mg.biology.kyushu-u.ac.jp/mg-files/strainlist-brandnew/06catalog/pages/1095_1-5615.html&usg=ALkJrhjNUS6AghvVXzZDtKh5sJvVnwId8w

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LOL! Pretty good name you gave them, Joesph!!! LOL!

I love the links you posted to all those rare and very odd MGs! Fascinating stuff!!!

Colin - I have to agree with you ... love those reverse tube blooms! Absolutely stunning! :-)

I am enjoying this thread so much! Thanks Colin for starting it! :-)

wow.. i want those !! ( the reverse tube ones) well ..all of them LOL

I enjoyed them all, Colin but I agree with you about the last one, what a beauty!

Hoseph thanks for posting the seies of links, those were great to look at, i could stare for hours at a few of them!
:D

found another link...

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.ocn.ne.jp%2F%7Eefukushi%2Fasagao.htm&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en

follow the links for more pics and info :-)

Excellent link, Colin! Thanks for sharing that with all of us!

I only got one reverse tube seed from 3 vines. I even tried hand-pollinating them. Will have to grow that one out again to see if I can get more seeds. Love it!!!