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dany12 szarvas, Hungary Oct 17, 2008

For me if this one is YOUJIRO YAGURUMA :small little vine
what is the name of the second flower ?

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dany12 szarvas, Hungary Oct 17, 2008

What's the name of this ?
YOUJIRO YAGURUMA tetraploid ?
Is there MG tetraploid ? double chromosome

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evr Toronto, ON(Zone 5b) Oct 17, 2008

Andrianne, are the second flower name, are you referring to a Mt. Fuji? Fuji no Beni (http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/139459/)? If you are referring to that one as a the second name, there is another one that is grown by some people which is Mt. Fuji "Hot Pink Frost".

Eliz

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beckygardener (Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a) Oct 17, 2008

Fuji Hot Pink Frost will have more white in the bloom:
http://davesgarden.com/community/blogs/i/36518/

Here is a Youjiro series including Yaguruma and others:
http://onaleeseeds.bizhosting.com/jmg_youjiro_series.html

One thing I have noticed about Yaguruma is that is should be more of a red color, not pink. I grew one last year and it was a pink color. I've yet to grow a "red" morning glory other than cardinal climber.
Here is mine from last year and it looks a lot like your second one and mine is dark pink too:
http://davesgarden.com/community/blogs/t/beckygardener/7240/

I don't know if this is a dilution or cross or what ... I am sure Ron or someone else can give you more information.

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dany12 szarvas, Hungary Oct 17, 2008

I've got the seeds from Emma on the name Hot pink Frost . 2 type of flower came out this one very large and the Hot pink Frost ( = Fuji no Beni with large white streaks )
Fuji no Beni is smaller than this NOID . The leaf are allmost like the Yaguruma leaf

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dany12 szarvas, Hungary Oct 17, 2008

large !

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RON_CONVOLVULACEAE Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b) Oct 17, 2008

Dany -You asked:

"YOUJIRO YAGURUMA tetraploid ?
Is there MG tetraploid ? double chromosome"

The Youjiro are not polyploid and any tetraploid would indicate 4 sets of chromosomes as the word tetra = 4

The majority of MG do not do well with multiple sets of chromosomes..

Here's another post where I previously briefly addressed polyploidy is Ipomoea species...
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=3197717


Mt. Fuji "Hot Pink Frost" is a very 'unofficial' name...more of an ebay name at this point...

The example displayed in Becky's journal here
http://davesgarden.com/community/blogs/i/36518/
shows coloring patterning in the 'red' near the outer limb that may be the result of a blizzard gene

The wide youjiro can come out of the regular Fuji packs that are distributed by Sakata and Takii...

I'm reluctant to assign a 'new name' to any youjiros that display very nice wide youjiro (in the interest of preventing a deluge of duplicative 'new names' ) other than to describe them as having wide clear youjiro...

The plant in bloom here
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=5683574
may be a fuji that is simply displaying more of the leaf pattern associated with the yaguruma or it may represent a cross between the Yaguruma and the Fuji no Beni...it's just a guess as there is no way to know for sure...


Hope that helps...


Ron

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