beautiful thug

I fought this vine tooth and nail this last spring. I sprayed round up, I pulled it up every time I saw it and it just kept popping up. I didn't plant it this year. It was in one of the "assorted" packs that I bought. When it attached itself to the arbor and was firmly entrenched among my Copper Canyon daisies and salvias I finally just gave up. For today it's at least paying its rent. Perhaps as tenacious as it is it will hang on until the daisies start to bloom, now that would be a show.

Anne

another angle

and one last. Now if I could just find the peach capitalio hibiscus that is planted underneath another section of it. I'm going to name this thug "Audrey II". Feeed me Seymour! lol

Ipomoea indica...

Does yours produce any seedpods (?) or is it a clone...

I don't know exactly how it got to where it is on your property,but seeds are rarely (!) available and very (!) unlikely to part of an 'assortment pack'...

Ipomoea indica was until recently though to be native to Asia,but the most recent analysis of the oldest pollen,shows that it is Native to the Caribbean...once thought to be an alien plant,it is recognized on some Florida sites as a true native species...it is likely actually native to Texas as well...


Ron

oh my gosh Anne that is gorgeous, if you could share a piece of her or even a seed or two that would be awsome! she is truly beautiful!!

Anne - Your thug is beautiful! Definitely a keeper!!!

Come to think of it Ron I haven't noticed any pods. I've no idea where it came from except it has taken over in two different areas of my porch. I wasn't kidding when I said I couldn't find my peach Capitalio. It's taken the other end of the porch over also. We've lived here on this property for over 30 yrs. and last year is the first that I planted morning glories. There haven't been morning glories here before. So I can't imagine where else they came from.

That being said, these were growing under the porch which is connected to the arbor on which I'd planted the assorted pack. During the winter (which was extremely mild) there were little morning glories that started very early. These are the ones that I tried to get rid of and couldn't. And this is what is on that arbor. Come to think of it... City of Silvia gave me a morning glory plant at a round up that she said was a Grandpa Ott. That's the only one that I had that didn't come from seed that I planted. I remember seeing this color on the arbor last summer though it was on the south side. The arbor in the pictures is on the north side. That whole area is overrun with them.

Anne

....and I've actually given several of the seedlings away and some friends of friends came over and took cuttings. So if it wasn't native to Texas before it may now, or at least in this area of Texas, lol.

Anne

The leaves of Ipomoea indica often look very similar to the leaves of Ipomoea ni.Ipomoea hederacea and Ipomoea purpurea with tri-lobed leaves...it is difficult for most people to distinguish these at a very early age and before the plants flower...

I would have difficulty determining the difference between very young I.indica and the very closely related species of I.nil and I.hederacea...it is common for Botanists with Phd's to get these species confused,especially if there are young plants of these several species growing together...before they bloom...

Ipomoea indica plants that originate from seeds,tend to produce seeds,so where then are all of the seedpods on your I.indica plants...(?!)...


if a plant has 'naturalized' and is growing all over a place that it is not truly Native to,that is a completely different situation than truly Native...

Native means the plant was growing in an area before any (!) people were there...and that includes all indigenous people...so,native to Texas means growing in Texas before there were any people (at all) In North America...

"...and I've actually given several of the seedlings away "

It would be interesting to know if these were real seedlings with cotyledons that sprouted from seeds and if the people who received them took photos of what type of blooms they produced...the indica can root easily where it touches the ground and some stems that rooted could potentially be mistaken for 'seedlings' if you weren't actually looking for the presence of cotyledons...

Rooted cuttings from I.indica will of course produce I.indica blooms..

Just sharing some thoughts...the plant in the photos you have posted above is I.indica,but what all the young plants were that you were pulling out and trying to eradicate I do not know...I think it unlikely that they were all I.indica,but more likely something like
Ipomoea hederacea
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/11167/
look at the leaves...would you differentiate the differences in young non-flowering plants (?)...

The main question is that if the indica that you have originated from seeds then where are the seedpods on your plant...not even 1 seedpod (?)...are there seedpods on any (?!) of the definite indica plants that you gave away (?)...


Inquiring minds on the MG Forum want to know...


TTY,...


Ron

I'll look more closely for seeds this weekend, as I'm leaving town tomorrow afternoon to attend a funeral on Sat. I'll try to get closer in to take more pictures. It is a beautiful flower, invasive as heck but a beautiful flower. The buds a pretty too look kind of like a tightly held swirl of purple and white. I'll get more pictures. This is soo cool.

Anne

Anne - I would love to see a close-up of a bloom. What a striking vine! If ya gotta get something invasive ... couldn't ask for a prettier vine! :-)

Wow! That is an INCREDIBLE thug! LOL!

I haven't had an opportunity to search for possible seed pods. My father is very ill and we've been shuttling between work and the nursing home. I did get out this morning to take pictures.

{{{Anne}}} I hope your father improves.

Beautiful bloom. I've been told that this MG is fabulous to grow on an arbor. From the looks of yours, I'd have to agree!

And here is one in the my shadow. As to how the ones that were given away, I'm not really sure how to contact them. A friend brought a couple of her friends over to get cuttings so I'd have to contact her to find them. As to the seedlings, I got to looking where the seedlings are and I think you're right that was something other than the blue ones. The cuttings however were from the blue. Ron, will these come back next year do you think? I really wish I could have some say as to where they grew, lol.

Anne

Becky, as beautiful and pleasing as they are, they chose where they would grow, not me lol. If I'd known they would be so pretty I'd not been so displeased by their entrance. But they're all in my front garden bed and all over the other side of my porch as well. Very pretty but as I said above very invasive as well.

Anne

Very nice Anne,

I also have blue one, I bought seed from Home depot last spring included other colors. I dont know what kind of morning glory they are. But sure they very pretty. The strange thing is other colors already finished blooming, but this blue one still blooming, even at 2 pm. In TN morning glory only bloom in the morning up to around 9-10 am. Here are the picture, taken 2 days ago

I love this m glory. Great pics Anne and Betra

betra - The photo that you posted here
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=5691015
is
Ipomoea tricolor "Heavenly Blue"
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/130758/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/139616/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/106781/
a tropical annual,the seeds of which often do not survive cold wet winters...

The species that Anne has is
Ipomoea indica
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/54966/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/126359/
a tropical perennial...

Anne - The I.indica is sometimes reported to be root hardy in a zone 8 particularly if mulched or otherwise protected,but to be certain that you have some you can easily root some cuttings and overwinter them indoors...


TTY,...


Ron

Thanks Ron,

So far there is no seed pot yet. Maybe they do not produce seed after bloomed? This the first time I'm growing morning glory and 2.5 years started gardening. So, I'm a "seedling" LOL

Thug or not, I love my Ipomoea indica

Here are photos from this week

Emma

Emma, is it possible there was a seed or two of this in the little packet that you sent me? I did plant some of yours as well.

Anne

Hi Anne,

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't think I accidentally sent you a seed. I got very few seeds from my vines. Actually, I never knew I would get seeds from them until I noticed a few pods last year by accident. I need to get out there and check my vines again just to see if there are any this year. My pods seemed to form about this time last year - or at least that is when I noticed them for the first time. I did learn that these seed pods will not wait for you to collect them. When they are mature they fall to the ground immediately. So, if you do see any pods, you need to cover them with a light net or maybe a coffee filter. Anything that will secure the seeds while they are maturing.

Your blooms are so stunning!
I know this beautiful vine can sometimes be a pain, but in my 8a TX zone, if I keep the runners pulled my vines will stay contained. Again in my zone [and I have no clue what it does in more tropical climates], the runner vines that do root when they touch the ground are very easily pulled out as the roots are shallow. Even when I've moved or given away a mature vine, I didn't have to dig that deep to get the main root system.

My guess is that you possibly left just one rooted part of a vine in that particular area and that is how you ended up with your BEAUTIFUL MG again. Especially since you had it growing previously.
OR, maybe 'your' vine did produce seeds and this is from a seed from 'your' vines that dropped.
???

I agree with Ron, highly unlikely that you had a stray seed in one of your seed packs.
Also, I agree with Ron they are hardy in zone 8.

You are warmer than my 8a, so your plants should come back next year, however, just to be safe, you should have plenty of rooted runners if you get down there and look....lol
Just scoop them up and put several rooted plants in 2 or more pots to over-winter. The runners will be very long, so just cut them at some of the roots for potting.

Ron -
Great information on the origination of Ipomoea indica.

Debra . . .
If you will remind me next spring. Late spring is best. I will be more than happy to send you some rooted plants. Unless you have a Greenhouse, this isn't the best time of year to start this plant in your zone. Actually, you don't have your zone listed, so this may not be hardy for you. Zone 7 is borderline hardy and very 'iffy'. BUT, it grows great and you can always keep new plants going in a container as well in the event you should ever lose what you have growing in the ground. I really don't know how cold it needs to be to actually kill the roots. My vines do die back in my 8aTX Zone, but bounce right back every spring with even more vigor. Also, if there is a part of my vine in a sheltered area, I have noticed it does not die back at all.

Also, this is the time of year that yesterday's blooms stay open the following day to enjoy again - and are an awesome Dark Pink-Mauve color. I haven't taken any of those photos this year, but here is one that I took last year.

Another thing not mentioned is that this bloom does stay open all day!

Emma

Here is a photo just as Ipomoea indica begins to turn to the Pink color

Hi Emma ,
Ipomoea indica seeds are like purpurea seeds or tricolor seeds ?
I hope I'm on the list to get 3 seeds of indica if you can catch them before they disappear on the ground .

Hi Dany,

Ipomoea indica seeds are not like purpurea or tricolor seeds as those are easily produced.
Indica seeds are very hard to come by.
I should have some seeds that I can share with you Dany. I know how you like Blue MGs.

Emma

That is one beeeeeeeutiful MG... If only the volunteers that come up in my garden were that spectacular... Enjoy such a blessings..

Carolyn

thank you and the daisies are about to bloom! I'll send a pic when they do.

Anne

That is a beautiful blooms. OK I am tempted again, I'm waving my hands for a few seeds???... Emma....anybody??? I have a perfect place for it!!!!

Helena

Helena,

I don't know how many seeds that I have, but am happy to include you if I have enough to share. It isn't possible to send plants to Dany in Hungary which is why I offered seeds.

However, why don't I send you plants?

You can let me know if you want them now or in the spring.
what zone are you?

Emma

Hi Emma, you are too kind. Thank you but that's ok, I don't need it that bad. I know you are too busy & sending plants is too much of a pain-been there and done that. Thank you for offering.

Helena