Will my MGs self-seed

Saint David, AZ(Zone 8a)

I am a newbie here and am wondering if the MG seeds that shattered will self-seed for next year? We do get below freezing temps here in the winter and frequently get to the low teens so.... I am saving seeds, but if they'll self-seed it would be so wonderful
Thanks for your help,
Kathy the fiberholic

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Kathy - MG's that are native to your area are likely to reliably self re-sow.

Do you have any photos that you could share with us (?)


I would be interested to see what MG's you have growing ...


There are about 8 species of native MG's found in your area that I am very interested to locate...


Thanks,...


Ron

Saint David, AZ(Zone 8a)

I am not cultivating the native MGs but I can probably get you a picture of a couple of the natives tomorrow. I just planted some seeds that I got off the usual seed rack at HD or Ace or something.
I'll try to get photos of the natives tomorrow and post them.

Saint David, AZ(Zone 8a)

Ron,
Here is a picture of the leave one of them; as near as I can tell it is Ipomoea hederacea or ivy-leaved morning glory. I couldn't find one in bloom, but the ones I have seen are blue.
It doesn't sprout until after our monsoon rains have started. If you want seeds, I'm sure I can collect some.

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Saint David, AZ(Zone 8a)

Ron,
this is a different one and I cannot find it in my book - which admittedly is not very thorough. Different leaf structure and the flower colors are different.
Again it is monsoon generated.
Kathy

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Saint David, AZ(Zone 8a)

And here are the leaves for the last photo.
Kathy

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Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Hi Kathy - Thanks for sharing the photos...

The first one here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/fiberholic_1223427049_829.jpg
is most likely to be
Ipomoea hederacea
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/160632/
Ipomoea hederacea with hairs on pedicel,main stems and leaves
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/125101/

There is a very closely related species known as
Ipomoea barbatisepala
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/81859/
for which there are no photos in the entry yet
http://www.fireflyforest.com/flowers/images/violet/violet_08/Ipomoea_bar_400.jpg
as you can see,there is absolutely no hair on the pedicel below the sepals,on the leaves or stem

Ipomoea hederacea is still generally considered to be alien to the USA,but in recent years the foremost researcher in US native MG species Dr.Daniel F.Austin had recanted his previous proclamation and after living in Arizona for more than a decade and continuing to study the origins of Ipomoea hederace,has declared that Ipomoea hederacea IS native to the USA at least to Arizona...

Ipomoea barbatisepala is a definite Arizona native and is structurally very similar to Ipomoea hederacea...both species can have leaves with 3 or more lobes,but Ipomoea barbatisepala has hairs only (!) on the sepals and not anywhere else on the plant...i.e., not on the pedicel,other stems or on any of the leaves...

Are you able to examine the blue flowered plant to see if there are hairs anywhere at all on the leaves or stems (?)...

The plant here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/fiberholic_1223427287_547.jpg
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/fiberholic_1223427398_443.jpg
is either one of 2 Arizona natives

Ipomoea ternifolia
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/126438/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/126302/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/115035/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/123984/

or

Ipomoea costellata
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/131448/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/131449/

Ipomoea ternifolia and Ipomoea costellata are very closely related and often mis-identified due the similarities in overall structures,although the flower on Ipomoea ternifolia is definitely larger...

Thanks for sharing your photos...

Ron

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