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mgarr Hanover Twp., PA(Zone 6a) Oct 03, 2008

It was quite large but up so high I couldn't get a good shot.

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fly_girl The Woodlands, TX(Zone 8b) Oct 03, 2008

I believe it's a Common Rose, Pachliopta aristolochiae:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachliopta_aristolochiae

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DonnaB Vancleave, MS(Zone 8b) Oct 03, 2008

wow never even heard of that one

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mgarr Hanover Twp., PA(Zone 6a) Oct 04, 2008

The markings can't be seen because it is too dark but I think you are exactly right about it being a Pachliopta aristolochiae. Thank you for your help fly girl.

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wallaby1 Lincoln, United Kingdom(Zone 8a) Oct 04, 2008

That species is only in India and Asia according to Wiki.

There are others, Common Rose Swallowtail, Pachliopta kotzebuea has the red around it's eyes, with a red tail tip but that may be buried by the wings. Some Papilio species on this site similar too, but none quite the same.


http://www.westford.com/fingerhut/Butterflies.htm

But is it in the US?

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Pachliopta%20kotzebuea&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

No Pachliopta species in North America,

http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/search?searchbox=Pachliopta+

Papilionidae in the US,

http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/gallery?f=14&_st=1

Is there a butterfly farm nearby from which it might have escaped?

Papilio rogeri is a possibility if I can find more pics,

http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species?l=1383

Some of these pics do have red around the head, they are dead specimens so wouldn't show like a live one. Could the pink spots be in the folds? They are at least in the right area. Pics of live ones at the bottom of the page, the spots are in the folds so wouldn't show when folded, but looking again I think they would show! There does look to be some faint lighter marks on the bottom of the lower wings.

http://butterfliesofamerica.com/papilio_rogeri_pharnaces.htm

There's a lot of Papilio species with locations on this site,

http://butterfliesofamerica.com/list.htm#PAPILIONIDAE













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wallaby1 Lincoln, United Kingdom(Zone 8a) Oct 04, 2008

I see on another pic posted that these are probably from a butterfly conservatory! In that case, it is probably Pachliopta kotzebuea.

Would be a good idea to state where these are, save a few people some time. :)

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mgarr Hanover Twp., PA(Zone 6a) Oct 04, 2008

Sorry :( Yes, it was at a butterfly house that the picture was taken, however the card they gave us with the names never listed this one. The closest one was Urbanus proteus but the wing markings do not match up at all. That is why I've been having a hard time with the ID. Thanks for all your help.

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