I have a friend that wants a plant off of her great great grandmother's Sweet Autumn Clematis. This plant is at her mother's house. She said that it doesn't give out any little seedling. What is the best way for her to propagate this plant from stem cutting?
Read this link:
http://www.floridata.com/ref/c/clem_ter.cfm
DEMinPA
Gosh, I have grown this vine forever, and it has always spread by runners, seeds and soil-layered cuttings.
My friend said her mama's plant only has one coming out of the ground.
What is soil-layered cutting? cut and stick in the ground? or put a branch on the ground and put a rock on it and it will root?
It's the most prolific clematis from seed. A real weed that is very hard to get rid of. Since we moved to a new house, I don't ever plan on trying it again - I will enjoy it in the woods at the parks from now on.
oh, no. I just planted some on my arbor!
It would be a great vine if it didn't make so much seed and have such deep roots. I cut it to the ground and it would come back. I think I even sprayed some with Round Up and it would come back. If you can cut the seed heads off and pull up the first sign of wayward seedlings, you might stay ahead of the game.
I have had one on a cattle panel trellis for years and never have seen a bloom. I have these awful silver/black bugs that chew it bald in a matter of days in the spring. I have been told they are blister beetles and have sprayed but they are just too numerous. They do not bother anything else. I think I will try the layering method and maybe someday I will get those nice fragrant blooms if I move it.
....that;s one that am hoping to add to the arbor this year. Been oooohing and awwing over others SAC, for toooooo many years,
DeeS
I have some seed for this. Can somebody tell me exactly what needs to be done to get them started, I read the link put up ,but just didn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
I have an Autumn Clematis that grew 10' and turned right ona trellis. It was so prolific that I cut it back to 3' from the ground. I'll let you know how it rervives / or doesn't in the Spring. I am holding my breathnow.
FlowerFantasy...
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/clematis/all/
here the linkto the Clematis forum. Them folks over there would be able to tell ya exaclt how to germiate them. They may even have a sticky up, not sure, forgot to look.
thanks starlight
I have propagated this vine by cuttings before, took forever to root but they did eventually root, I put them in seed starting mix, and just kept them w atered, it was warm weather, and I cut the vine before the flower ing started.
Mine never drops seeds and never spreads by runners, has alway s been just one plant in the ground, quite disappointing that other folks get so many babies and I get none!! bummer. don't know what i'm doing or what I can do to make it make babies.
Mine has a kajillion seeds still on it, if anyone wants some!
I'll take some if you tell me how to start them LOL. No seriously I have autumn clematis but I read how everybody starts them and isn't sinking in for me.
Winter sowing should work fairly well. I'd take a six inch nursery pot, fill with a good potting mix, sow the seed on top, add small gravel to the top (1/2 inch should do), water and stick outdoors in some place that it won't get knocked over or washed out. Don't forget to water once in a while. Seeds should germinate in spring.
hcmc would it be to late to do that now or do you think they would still germinate?
I think it would be a good time to do it.
Here is an excellent, step-by-step tutorial on growing Clematis from seeds:
http://www.bcollingwood.com/Germination.htm
Man that is a lot of info. Thanks Kay,I put it in my save folder so I can refer to it whenI need to.
Tons of seeds and then you have volunteers everywhere! Especially where you don't want them. I could spend a lot of time digging them up and potting them, but there's not that many people that will take them.
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I have a friend in Alabama that wants one...
Careful - I know in Tennessee it made the noxious weed/ Invasive list...
(*sniff* - I wanted one, too!)
PC , I know that one of the plants I have Indiana considers it a noxious weed too but I have one.I didn't klnow it til after I had already bought it though, and after I found out I wasn't about to get rid of it I paid to much money for it to do that.
Here's a blurb from the Indiana Department of Natural Resources:
Why Do We Care?
Invasive plants hurt wildlife by eliminating the plants our native animals need for food and cover.
Invasive plants destroy habitat for rare wildflowers and animals; they threaten two-thirds of all endangered species.
Invasive plants cost money. Agencies around Indiana spend hundreds of thousands of dollars each year to eradicate these species and protect our natural areas.
Each year the cost grows. Agricultural losses and control costs due to invasive plants are estimated at $15 billion per year in the U.S.
I have read everything there is on invasive plants that the USDA puts out. Thats how I found out about the plant I have. Thats like the invasive plant that is on our propery I didn't put it here, it was here when we bought the land and does any one care but us that it is or rather was taking over our property? NOTA. The plant I have if kept under control isn't invasive. A person just doesn't realize that plants of all sorts can be invasive if let go. What about a blackberry vine ? It's invasiave if you don't keep them confined. Don't condem someone for it just look around you and you will find all sorts of invasive plants.
yes, there were some strawberries (not the nice big kind like the ones at the grocery stores, but little dinky ones that the rabbits eat at night) when I moved in and they were INVASIVE! They still come up every year and I have to be diligant about covering them with newspaper and that black cover for weeds.
Yeah that's like the wild grapevines they are rampant and they will choke the life out trees and everything they climb and wrap around.
Well, Flowerfantasy, I'm certainly not condemning any one; nor did I didn't notice anyone else condemning anyone.
The problem with these plants is that you can't keep them contained, oftentimes the seeds /pollen / fruit/ whatever is spread by birds or other animals. Unless you're literally cutting all of the flowers off of these plants prior to full bloom, it's out of your hands.
Claypa's points are very important to me. I understand that they aren't important to everyone else, but by pointing out that they are possibly bad (I didn't look up Georgia's list, the Clematis might be just fine there) then whatever decision Lili makes, it will be informed.
Sorry, Lili - I didn't mean to change the thread to another battle over invasives, just wanted to alert you to the possibility.
I mentioned how weedy it was and how hard it was to get rid of early in the thread (yeah - it is a problem in GA too). If it behaved like most clematis vines it would be great to keep but it is quite prolific in spreading its progeny. Another one I wished I had never planted was the chameleon plant (Houttuynia)
Well excuse me I was just voicing what I felt about it I wasn't trying to battle anyone.
I did plant a little cuttings last year. Would it be better if I planted it in a container? Is it the seeds that drop to the ground that causes problems?
My friend in Alabama said her mom has one that was her grandmother and she wants one from it but it doesn't produce any runners (as I've heard they often do) or any other roots. I was hoping I was lucky enough to have one of those SAC, just like her mom... :)
Do you consider Clematis invasive? I have one at the mailbox and I don't think they are invasive.
LilliMerci, I didn't mean to cause any problems here,so I will apolgise. I personally don't think they are I have 2 and have had no problem with them and they produce seed like crazy and I have never did anything to stop them and are still under control.
No need to apologize to me. I love this about this website is you get different perspective from everyone. May be it's because you live in a colder climate so your seeds does not germinate.
My friend's mom, who has the non-invasive SAC lives in a slightly warmer climate, Alabama, bordering Louisiana and Florida. That's why I don't understand it...
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I am not sure if they do or not ,but I am going to try and get seed from them this year and see if I can grow them. I know the ones I have puts out a lot of runners though but I just keep them twined up around the trellis.
I don't know if planting it in a pot would help or not - I don't know how it spreads, but if it has fruits, berries, it's probably via birds..... And I'm not sure that it's even invasive in your area, Lili - just here in Tennessee.
I think hcmcdole said his was invasive and he lives close to my area.
Well I will have to say I looked it up for our state and it isn't invasive here. Thank goodness .
Read what the poster from Indidana says about Clematis terniflora:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/683/
Just because a sate doesn't list a plant doesn't mean it's not invasive there - some states don't list any invasive plants.
This is the USDA map for C. terniflora:
