Can't Locate the Seeds on my Delphiniums

Kinderhook, NY(Zone 5b)

I can't seem to locate the seeds on my delphiniums so that I can collect some to winter sow. I see the seed pods, but when I open them up there is nothing that looks like the chips I know to be a delphinum seeds -- just extremely small bits of dust.

I can see that about half of these seed pods are open and half are closed, and I'm afraid they are all dropping to the ground before I can catch them. I hope they self-seed, but I'd also like to save some.

Can anyone help me figure out how (and when) to harvest? I have a Blue Bird and a Pacific Giant Mix.

Benton, KY(Zone 7a)

Chances are, they did not set seeds. Some hybrids do not. Sometimes during adverse weather conditions, even species plants will fail to set seeds too.

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