ID Please

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

I lost the invoice where I got it. can someone help?

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Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Maybe Citronella...

North East England, United Kingdom(Zone 8a)

This looks very much like my plant that is flowering now which is leichtlinii. My plant is over 6 feettall and has had 21 flowers!

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Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Galant, I would think thats a match. Does it have any other name?

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North East England, United Kingdom(Zone 8a)

I don't think so - it's a species lily rather than a named hybrid. Stunning!

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

I found it in plant files and it has no other name.
Soooo thank you, I would of never knowen. and I posted my pic. there too. Guess thats what you don't keep track on invoices, but then again I don't think it had a name, just lily. (still can't find it) LOL
Hugs
Tills

Stargazer (I think)

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Kalama, WA(Zone 8b)

Is that a small flower?
I have one that looks like it called King David. Kind David has small flowers.

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North East England, United Kingdom(Zone 8a)

You white lily could be any number of lilies.. Stargazer is a bright pink so it's not that one. What a minefield..!

Lisbon, IA(Zone 5a)

Isn't there a White Stargazer?

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Yes, but that lily doesn't even have papillae. With it's orientation it could be an LA.

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

OOPs I wrong, that was Sterling Star, I lost Stargazer over winter and yes it was pink. Have pics from last year in a file, will find them.

No, not Sterling Star either. Sterling Star has spots. As Moby says, it may an LA, but there are many white ones, very hard to get a positive ID starting from here.

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Thats odd. I did find 2 days ago the invoice and the map of where I planted them, finally clean my puter room. And have not looked at my old pics yet.
But this is the Hardy Lily. Or could they have messed up and the packages where wrong? I got them from Gurneys.
Whats a LA?


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Lisbon, IA(Zone 5a)

Hardy lily just means that they had a bunch of lilies they got from someone that were all mixed up with no names. Gurneys and other warehousing catalogs like that and big box stores tend to do for that. So what you have is a lily, probably Asiatic, that has no discernible name. Doesn't make it any less pretty, just makes it hard if you really want to know who it is (if it ever had a name to begin with.). Again, that doesn't mean it's not pretty. :)

If you want to know what bulb you're getting you'll have a better chance if you buy from places like Buggycrazy, Faraway Flowers, The Lily Garden, The Lily Nook, and B & D Lilies. Sometimes they might have a mix-up, but it doesn't happen often and they will usually replace the bulb if you let them know in a kindly fashion. :)

Oh yeah, LA means Longiflorum-Asiatic which is (if I remember correctly) a hybrid between an Asiatic and a Trumpet lily. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. :)

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(Sue) South Central, IA(Zone 5a)

gentle correction: LA a cross between a longiflorum (Easter Lily) and an asiatic.

Lisbon, IA(Zone 5a)

See, I knew someone would show up and help out. :) Thanks Sue!

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Thanks all, should of known better, and your right they still are pretty.
tills

Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

Look at Citronella again. It is generally available & may be the one you have. The stems have a great candleabra, blooms pendant. Mine is 3 years old.

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Poland, ME

Given the date on the photo, it seems a little late for an Asiatic to be be blooming. I vote for L. leichtlinii.

Where is Lefty when you need him? The species guru!

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Citronella blooms mid July-mid August for me. Zone is similar to tilly's, Poulsbo being on Puget Sound.

Poland, ME

Well, Citronella is more readily available...

Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

Where is Lefty when you need him?

I'm afraid I can't be much help here, as I have only grown leichtlinii two years now, and had my own go-around with Citronella identification http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/884345/ . (BTW, for anyone interested, though bulbils remained visible, they hardly grew, and "matured" at less than one-eighth inch. The ID of L.lancifolium var. flaviflorum is still tentitive.) Anyway, I have never grown Citronella.

I will offer this advice: remember to not just look at the flower only. I would expect the Citronella hybrid to be capable of secondary and tertiary buds. Leichtlinii may not. My leichtlinii had seven blooms this season, so I would not expect secondary buds. Perhaps someone else could relay experience regarding this.

Perhaps if we knew the source company, it might help too.

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Hey All, I thought this tread had wandered away.
Its a Leichtlinii, at least I am pretty sure? I put the pic in plant files and it was excepted. Now you got me wondering LOL
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/62490/

This was the pink stargazer I lost, just so love it. going to order another one.
Thanks for all in put and help.
Tilly

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Vancouver, WA(Zone 8a)

Hi Tills,

You really should give some of these lily companies that Ticker mentioned a try. They're mostly located here in PNW and they grow the lilies here as well. They're all small, locally owned businesses and they take pride and care in their products and service.

B & D lilies' farm is in Port Townsend. (and they're even having a sale right now) Here's a link to their web site: http://www.lilybulb.com/index.html

And, The Lily Garden is down here in Vancouver, a couple of miles from me: http://www.thelilygarden.com/

BuggyCrazy is in Oregon: http://buggycrazy.vstore.ca/index.php

Hope you find some wonderful lilies for your garden!

Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

FYI
To my knowledge, there is no person or committee that accepts (or rejects[excepts]) additions to the plant files. The fact that your nice pic, Tilly, is now in the files, does not validate or invalidate the identity. After all, how could anyone know everything so well as to competently act as "god of the plant files"?

Fortunately, there is a way to report an error on any plant file page, and DG staff will look at the questionable data.

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Glad you mentioned that, Lefty ~ reminds me of an error that I'd found and forgotten to address. 'God of the Plant Files' ~ I wish we had one! LOL



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Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Thanks Susy
Hugs

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Hey, Lefty, Sorry I said what I said, maybe that was wrong, But I have entered another pic to Plant files of a DL that they said was wrong, but was told that is what it was. There is a a 'Plant God out There' and someone is watching LOL Some mistakes happen. Just like us.
Happy Gardening
Tills

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Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

What do you mean mistakes happen? Have you been talking to my mother??
Oh, I remember now, she said I was a 'surprise'.

Now tell us the name of that gorgeous daylily, I really like those soft, multi-hued beauties.

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Well I sure would like to know to. That one had a name when I got it. 'Miss Mary Mary' but found out that is not her. Now I have to wait till spring to see if her ID was place on another one. I got them from a DGer.

I do just love the colors, this is another shot of her.
Tills

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Southern, WI(Zone 5a)

The colors that those coastal climates bring out in flowers always make me envious! Very nice!

Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

Well then Tilly, I sit at my computer corrected. Maybe there is a god of the plant files for daylilies, and perhaps other plant groups. But I still think it would be a monumental task to watch over all, and (if) whosoever does, they have my utmost admiration and gratitude.

I put in a query to the DG admin. about same. Hopefully we'll get the definitive answer.

Belfield, ND(Zone 4a)

Well, there is a volunteer staff of three PlantFile editors, along with the general DG staff that check the new PlantFile entries, new photo submissions, correct errors that we catch upon submission, duplicate entries, incorrect nomenclature, and little things like white spaces in the fields that inhibit the search engine, along with trying to clean up previous errors when they are brought to our attention when someone uses the 'Report an Error' button in the top right hand corner of every PlantFile entry.

We do not project ourselves as 'God of the PlantFiles', but merely act as the verifiers, mediators, and those that can correct any errors that are brought to our attention.

Is there a certain entry that needs us to take a look at it? If so, I'm not sure by reading this thread which one it might be. Please point it out to me and we can take a look at it together.

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Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

And there ya go. You were exactly right, Tilly: there are people watching over the plant files, the best they can. And I must reiterate, that they have my gratitude, as this is yet another facet of the DG administration that receives high marks from me.

But for anyone who may be lurking on this thread, I don't think the plant files are meant to be a verification tool for those who submit entries. Accidental mistakes are inevitable, but at the time of submission, a submitter should have no doubt as to the identification of the entry.

We want the Plant Files to be the best (and most accurate) that they can be!

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Lefty, I knew there was because of my mislabled DH. I got a DMail from Admin. saying it was wrong and that the name I sent, is for a yellow bloom, not the one above.
And I totally agree Plant Files should not be used in any other way, but for what it is intended for.

Joan, the plant that we are talking about, is the very frist pic.
And thank you for verify and clarifying, what the staff at plant files does.

Tills

Belfield, ND(Zone 4a)

I really can't say for sure that it is or isn't Lilium leichtlinii or 'Citronella'. They are very similar in appearance. Sorry I can't be more help with the ID

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Thanks Joan
Happy Gardening
Tills

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

FWIW, the RHS Manual of Bulbs describes L. leichtlinnii thusly: bulbs stoloniferous, buds white-hairy, a few white hairs in the leaf axils. I don't recall the Citronella strain as having any of these attributes.

McRae describes L. leichtlinii as having immediate hypogeal seed as opposed to immediate epigeal seed of Citronella. In fact, this may be a good way to discern which is which.

As Lefty advises, look beyond the flowers...

Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

Yet . . . .

When I received a bulb of leichtlinii from the Species Lily Preservation Society, the bulb was surely not stoloniferous in any way.

But I do rember white hairs . . .

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

I have been wondering about that too, Lefty. McRae states "...the stem often travels horizontally below the ground surface". He seems to imply some variability by using the "often" which I take to mean "but not always". For example, "The buds are often coated in wooly hairs..."

I may have to get myself one or two of these when they are offered again by the SLPG.

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