flat stem lily

Whitehall, WI(Zone 4a)

After the post about the lily with 11 buds and the talk about the flat ridged stems, I went out and took a look at mine. I had notices that there were a lot of buds but didn't really bother counting them. I found one stem laying down, and wouldn't you know, it was flat! I think it's time to do something with the lilies....how often do you divide and transplant your lilies? Aparantly I haven't caught all of them before they reseeded because there are a lot of new stems growing all over! Anyway, here are some pics of the flat stem and Lollypop lily buds

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Whitehall, WI(Zone 4a)

another view

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Whitehall, WI(Zone 4a)

16 buds on one stem of Lollypop. The others have a lot, too. Isn't that normal for asiatics...to have a lot of flowers on one stem?

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Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Lots of buds mean that your lilies are healthy, happy and well established.
However, your first pics are of a lily that is fasciated. Not a bad thing, it just happens sometimes. They will grow funky directions and all you can do is support it as best that you're able. Just wait until you see the ready-made bouquet when they pop open!

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

I found a fasciated no-name oriental the other day. This first pic is a broadside view.

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Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

And a skinny side view...

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Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Here are all the buds! Can't wait to see these pop!

The stalk reminds me of a stick of celery.

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Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

OOOoooo that's a wicked looking top!

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Yea, kinda like a troll doll...

http://www.retailonlineconnection.com/images/Troll.jpg

...except with green hair!

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Oh lordy, that looks just like the one that my sister had!

Whitehall, WI(Zone 4a)

Wow! The top of your lily looks crazy! I bet it will be eye-catching when the flowers open! This is the top of my faciated (what a fancy word for "flat and grown together" lol) lily stem...not nearly as dramatic as yours, pardalinum!

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Mableton, GA(Zone 7a)

I've never had a fasciated lily, but I sure would love too! They are so magnificent. And since I know it's not causing damage, plus the fact that it probably won't happen again :-( , I wouldn't worry about it at all. I'd just want to "freeze" it somehow and enjoy it forever.

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

I found this little stem that fasciated just below two buds. The buds are fused at the base but all parts of the buds are inside this mess!

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Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Do you think it will open further? I had one like that last year, and for all it's trouble the poor thing ended up being quite homely.

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Well, I just don't think it will be a beauty queen... It should have opened properly by now but the tepals appear to be contorted.

Here is a photo of what it should look like. This is on a normal stalk of it; one of my Asiatic seedlings.

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Southern, WI(Zone 5a)

pard, I see all sorts of goodies in the background of that picture, allium hair, what looks like a North Lily and amybe 'Stunning'. What an awesome shot that is! Just when you think you're just showing us the form of an orange lily.

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Keen eye there, Mags. But what you really are seeing is:

1. Elephant garlic. Buggy sold it a couple of years ago as an "unknown giant allium" but recently informed me of its true identity.

2. Close. One of my McRae/North bulbs blooming.

3. Not quite... This group is the seedling patch on the south side of my greenhouse.

I need to get busy and post photos but I have been VERY busy out there doing massive pollinating! What really adds to the time is all the record keeping.

Southern, WI(Zone 5a)

pard, you are sooo good. I'd say I struck out on my assessment, but it was fun trying..

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Update on the fasciated oriental lily:

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Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Glad to see you didn't lose any buds. Almost there..... :)

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

I'll update when this one blooms. In the meantime take a gander at this, a fasciated stem on a volunteer pumpkin vine in my garden... There is a major gob of stuff trying to grow from the abrupt end of the stem.

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Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

You said it ~ that's sure a gob.

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Update on fasciated oriental lily: The blooms are opening! There are about 30 of them total!

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Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

You are going to have one big bouquet of flowers there, very soon!

Southern, WI(Zone 5a)

Quite stunning there pard. A whole bouquet in one lily!

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

And to think it came in a bag of cheap end of spring sale marked down and sprouted bag of lilies at the big box store.

(Sue) South Central, IA(Zone 5a)

I don't think I have ever seen a fasciated lily stem with such great pedicles and bud/flower placement!

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

The problem with long pedicels is when I am trying to do work in the area like photographing other stuff my but gets pollinated and I have to hang my jeans out on the gate to detox. I swear this happens no matter how careful I try to be!

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Wow... the light bulb just went on! So when my butt swells in the winter, does that mean it was pollinated the previous summer??

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

uhhh... I don't think I'll go there... Let's just say if your butt swells in the winter its because you're sitting around too much and not working in the garden. In the meantime... I'll change that to my shirt gets pollinated... oh forget it! LOL!

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

LOL sorry ~ it's past my bedtime. :)

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

I should say so! It's only 11 here. It seems like when I am ready to party everybody else here goes to bed! Well, I'll just talk to myself. hmmmph. :)

Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

Regarding the pumpkin and any fasciation: I generally don't like gobs.
It's like a traffic jam of plant hormones.

Look what the phenomenon did to my L. lijiangense! (bottom half of inflorescence normal, top fasciated).

I know you have to study the pic hard to see, but it is having a bad hair day, all season long.

And my Fantail willow doesn't want to fasciate. Go figure.

Rick

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Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Cool! Are the pedicles always that long?

Traffic jam of hormones?? LOL!

Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

Yes, the pedicels really are that long on lijiangense. I wouldn't call that a good attribute, but it seems to be unique among the species that I know. It's interesting that as flowers are fertilized and the pod develops, the pods turn upward like normal, yet the pedicels remain lax.

Traffic jam of hormones

You've heard of apical dominance? It's the phenomenom (caused by hormones) that keeps the end (apical) bud growing and in control by subduing growth of the other buds. Yup, not much order in a fasciated stem: everybody (every bud) wants to be first.

I thought is was quite a catchy analogy, although a "free for all in bud growth" would be more accurate.

Fortunately, the fasciation here on L. lijiangense was only the top half, and proved to be a bottleneck rather than a free for all. The upper buds still opened in succession, rather than all at once.

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