Another tour of England

Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

At the weekend we went over to visit a nursery called the Walled Garden, and I just have to show you some photos of this place. I just so wish I had Neo's skill, but hopefully I have caught enough of the quality of this place to spark your imaginations.

It is set in an old walled garden - the entire closure is approately 3 acres, and walled with 16' high brick walls! This is no small task - the walls are punctuated with a large wooden door on two sides, and there is a gardeners house on the third side. The fourth side is what I want to show you - this is breathtaking. Glass houses - enormous glass houses and some so specialist that they are for growing just one or two things.

The owners said that there has been a walled garden on this site since since the 13th century - no exact date but it belonged to and supply the original monestery. The existing one was rebuilt for the big house, and the oldest existing glass house was build in 1835.

Now for some pictures - This is looking back at the largest glass house. And judging by the man at the corner you can begin to see the scale of these buildings.

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Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

This is a photo of the interior of the big house on the right - what's interesting is that the building is broken up into rooms, each one being able to be closed off from the next so that they can control the temperatures depending on the plants. there is a tile walk straight through, but the area along the brick wall (right) has a long narrow bed for growing vines, and on the left gravel beds for what ever else. The structure is metal framed with timber structures. There are cast iron support pilars along the route. These were not only heated by sun, but they also had an enormous furnace that had forced are heating running along the floor! The rooms closed to the furnace were for growing out of season fruit, at the furtherest end was the fernery - kept frost free).

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This is a detail of the glass panes - each one is cut with a 'beaver tail' so that the water run of comes down the centre of the pane rather than along the wooden frame - stop the timber from rotting and is an incredible visual effect when it is raining.

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Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

But look at the size of this roof! And everyone of those panes is cut with that beaver tail - each pane is about 14" wide. The number is almost incalculable (unless you are Katie).

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Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

I'll add some more later - time to workwork - but I am just enchanted with this place.

Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

This is the inside of the oldest greenhouse - I know this is not a very interesting photo aesthethically, but look at the plant benches - they are all cast iron, with stone slab tops. Underneath the central one is a water trough, lined with stone slabs, and fed from the run off from the glass roofs. You can dip a bucket or use a pump to draw the water off - there is a diverter to stop any further water coming in so it doesn't over flow. Amazing.

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Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

There are several specialist houses - this one has raised beds along the walls, and some sort of piping going underneath. On the outside are small metal, centrally hinged doors - It may have been for hot beds to bring on seedlings or winter vegetables.

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Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

The long low glasshouse in the front is the melon house - yup, they had greenhouses just for growing melons. the entire house is build into the ground, and the beds inside are raised. Underneath the beds there is space to fill with fresh animal dung from the stables - its used to heat the beds bring on the fruiting early. Pineapples were grown in the same way.

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this is a picture of the inside of the melon house - the entire roof opens up like butterfly wings.

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And this is the end of the tour, the peach house. This is so beautiful. Again, this is close to 20 mtrs long, 3.5 m. high (15'), but less than two mtrs at the base!

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Last one, the inside of the peach house

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Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

Hope you enjoyed the tour, I found the place had that enchanted 'hands across the generations' feel - I just wanted to work in this garden and the glasshouses. Wonderful that they are still so productive. Long may they live.

Marysville, WA(Zone 7a)

What a beautiful place. Thank you for the great tour. Three acres contained within a sixteen foot high brick wall is amazing.

Poulsbo, WA

Oh my, that was a wonderful tour! Those glass houses are filled with memories of hundreds of loving hands tending the plants. And if those walls could talk, well, those flirty early girl tomatoes would be in trouble, live kinda fast ya know.

Whidbey Island, WA(Zone 7a)

Laurie, how incredible - I plan to re-tour this lovely place later today!

Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

It is just the most incredible place - and I love the idea of those FAST tomatoes!!!

Murmur - I wish I could take you there - I think you , especially, would like it.

Langley, WA(Zone 7b)

Wow, that was really fun! So is it now a nursery that sells plants or what do they use it for? Do they charge just to go and see it?

I was really interested to read about how they use hot animal manure under the melon plants to heat them up. Must reek to high heaven in there! But I can see how it would be effective.

Very cool - thanks for posting!

Gwen

Woodinville, WA(Zone 8b)

Hmmmmm . . . let me see (she says, pushing her glasses back up and thumbing through her notebook) . . . if there are three acres and each greenhouse takes up approximately . . . . LOL

Laurie - what a great tour. And I can see why you are enchanted. This creation is so you - beautiful yet utilitarian, self-contained, yet not completely restricted. Organic and well-tended.

And to be on the grounds of a 13th century monastery . . . the name of the poor man who designed this whole beautiful thing lost to history . . . such brilliance and vision in every generation.

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Laurie such great pics, and the narration you gave was just splendid.
Would just love to really see it. Some day. sighing

Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

Oh, I'm sooo glad you like it.

Gwen it is now a nursery, they specialise in hanging baskets - but grow very interesting things also (I just bought an entire tray of Sisyrhincium Biscuitti I'll see if Plant files has a picture) - and they don't charge for entrance, and they didn't mind that I wanted to take photos (thus the purchase of a TRAY of plants, actually two - they also had Aquilegia Skinnerii - so I took some of those to bulk up a planting I have).

I think katie is absolutely right - part of the enchantment is the anonymity of its designer, but also the beautiful utility - just wonderful. And Tils, I think they would let us take our barrows along - plenty of room, especially if we were willing to weed! (I couldn't locate the compost bins - must be huge!)

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

That could be so much fun, willing to weed for plants. LOL
But we may have to rig up a wagon to pull behind the Barros.

Vashon, WA(Zone 8b)

What a marvelous place, though I do wish the melon house were still growing melons. Of course they would need a massive supply of manure. Thanks for the great pictures Laurie. Through your commentary and fine photographyI feel I have toured several of England's special places that a gardener is fortunate to have the chance to see.

Whidbey Island, WA(Zone 7a)

Is anybody buying lottery tickets these days? I swear if I won a big one, I would take us all to visit Laurie!!!!!

Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

I'll get my ticket today!

Buckeye, AZ(Zone 9a)

Laurie,
How enchanting, if you listen real close you can hear the whispers and catch a few secrets. The history has to be amazing and to think it was built for the sole purpose of gardening. Just wonderful and thank you so much for sharing with all of us.

Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

I'm so glad all of you are enjoying this, just thrills me to share it with you.

Woodinville, WA(Zone 8b)

This from my SIL's book The Art of the Kitchen Garden, by Jan and Michael Gertley. While reading it I immediately thought of this post, Laurie, and how these gardens lived and were tended throughout these hundreds of years of changing influencies while still serving their primary purposes.

Medieval Monastic Gardens

Monasteries were established throughout Europe during the Middle Ages and were crucial in preserving the sum of man's knowledge since ancient times. By carefully copying and maintaining old manuscripts, the monastic monks kept alive information that may have otherwise been lost, including Roman horticulatural practices.

The monks were self-sufficient, growing all their own medicinal herbs, fruits, vegetables, and flowers. Although segregated into separate parts, the herbs, fruits, vegetables, and flowers were generally grown together within one cloister, or enclosed garden.

The garden was typically a simple geometrical design, usually containing four sections: a physic garden for medicinal herbs; a combined orchard and vineyard; a vegetable garden consisting of square or rectangular beds (edged with boards or willow branches) that enabled the monks to maintain the beds from a network of paths, thus avoiding soil compaction; and a flower garden containing plants such as violets, Madonna lilies, and roses, which were grown for their fragrance and religious symbolism and were used to decorate the altar. (whew!! that's a long sentence.)

Italian Renaissance Gardens

During the pre-Renaissance period in the 14th century, Europe was gradually awakening to a new age of humanistic thought. New trade and exploration, a resurgent interest in the arts and science preserved from ancient Greece and Rome, and greater freedom to explore new ideas and new ways of thinking were firmly taking root. Approaches to horticulture were also breaking free from the confinement of medieval cloister gardens.

French Formal Gardens

Perhaps nothing exemplifies the grand formal gardens of France during the "Age of Kings" more than Versailles, built in the second half of the 17th centurey. Burt the seed for this magnificent garden was sown more thatn 150 years ealier during the reign of Charles VIII, who brought in Italian artisans and craftsmen to work on the castle at Amboise. During the 16th century, the Italian Rensaissance continued to influence the design of many grand chateaus, including Louis XII's castle at Blois and Francis I's castle at Fontainebleau.

English Gardens

At the beginning of the 16th century, knot gardens became popular in England. Closely paralleling similarly-designed gardens in Italy at the time, these intricately-woven knot gardens were formed from ribbons of rosemary, thyme, and hyssop (dwarf boxwood was used later in the 17th century).

By the early 17th century, French formal designs were strongly influencing gardens in England. But a new century was at hand, and the geometric grandeur that belonged to the 17th century was soon to be deposed.

Early in the 18th century, during the reign of Queen Anne, the formal gardens of the past century were swept away by an overwhelming call for more natural-looking landscapes. Many writers made fun of popular topiaries. The tight control and geometric vistas were replaced by soft contours and gentle curves. Straight allees were replaced by more natural clusters of trees although still very puposefully planted to frame the landscape.

In the 19th century, during the long reign of Queen Victoria, new discoveries inspired innovative designs for English gardens. Professional plant hunters traveled the world, collecting hundreds of new specimens of trees, shrubs, and annuals. Annuals both newly discovered and those introduced in the 18th century, offered gardeners an array of colors. Vibrant flowers, including salvia, lobelia, zinnias, gazanias, pelargoniums, calceolarias, petunias, and verbenas added to the excitement.

In the mid-1800's, sheet-glass manufacturing was invented, and greenhouses became very popular. The greenhouses enabled seedsmen, nurseries, and gardeners to raise tender annual species from around the world. As the glass became less expensive, greenhouses became more accessible to the middle class, allowing them to join in the frenzy of raising bedding plants.

By the late 19th century, there was a movement once again toward an informal, natural style of gardening, with advocates such as William Robinson and Gertrude Jekyll. The advocates of this movement viewed the carpet-bedding techniques of the mid-Victorian era as garish and far too busy, preferring a garden more closely tied to the classic English cottage garden, which style of gardening is still a major influence in many gardens through-out the world today..


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Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

Lovely essay Katie - would you consider posting this to Dave's articles? I think others would enjoy reading it.

Reading it reminds me of the historical connection I have with our house - that knot gardens were popular here in the 16th Cent is interesting - the records show our house listed as early as 1527 so it fits right in with that and makes me wonder if they had one. I'd never considered it before. Were they leisured enough to have something both fanciful and practical (as a decorative medicinal garden - and I also wonder if the knotting of the herbs had some pre-christian origin?)
We know that in the 1800's our house had been surpassed twice over - first by Henhurst, which dates about 70 after our's and is built in the same style but larger and higher up the hill, but on land which was originally registered with our farm. In the 18th Century (approx. 1750) the Georgian house closer to the main road was built, again on land formerly belonging to our farm. However, what is also interesting is the Oast House* (one field above us) was built slightly earlier than the Georgian house, possibly late 17c., and remained belonging to our farm until the late 19th C.

I do find Garden History fascinating - both horticulturally but also socially. I think we really do get a real idea of lives from the way a garden has developed. Interesting. Thank you Katie.

*(an Oast House is where the Hops for beer making are dried - Beer was the primary liquid consumed until the 20th C, by old and young, because of the natural, and inorganic, contamination of so much water).

Langley, WA(Zone 7b)

Laurie, do you have photos of your house posted anywhere on DG? 1527 - wow! I would love to see photos of your house and garden.

Gwen

Woodinville, WA(Zone 8b)

Laurie - I lifted the whole thing from the book I mentioned -- nothing original by me. The book is worth it, if only for the kitchen garden history. But then it goes on to tell you how to build your own, with pictures and plans.

I knew your house had been around awhile, but 1527!! That's marvelous. So how much land do you think it originally had as farm before it was sold off to make neighboring parcels? Is there a long drive up to the house? I love the look of those.

Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

Gwen, if you don't mind I don't put photos of the actual house on the internet, and I only show the garden from the side that is visible to the road. I think it makes everything too vulnerable otherwise. There are several photos of the garden dotted around - mostly on PNW. But I am not sure where, its just a matter of looking some of them out.

Katie, the house was originally a Yeoman's house - he would have been one of the king's guard, and the farm would have been an outpost, protecting routes to the trading centres. Consequently no long drive, because the point of a yeoman is to man the roads and check who is coming and going - especially in this area (referred to as the Cinq ports) where a lot of smuggling and moving of taxable goods was going on. We live on a small steep lane with a stream at the bottom point - and our understanding was that all of the land from the main road to the stream, and on the right hand side of the lane belonged to our farm. This would have included both cleared grazing land and woodland. We still hold 21 acres of the original land. The Yeoman would have been paid for his guarding, as well as taken a commission, but his position would have been purchased, either by him or by his patron. He then monitored what went on in the lane, as well as served in the army to ward off invaders. Everything that came into the country, or went out, had to be licensed so it could be taxed - that is why Kings are so rich. They got money for everything! Everything! I don't know if you know that leather was originally tanned using dog feces - this was a very valuable part of the process, and feces collectors paid for a license and were then given an exclusive right to an area where they could pick up the poo - woe be to those that cleaned up after their dog! Kings collected on everything.

We think that our Yeoman got a promotion at some time, and that may be why Henhurst (the next oldest house, and a much grander hall house) was built - our's would have remained the Yeoman's, but he would now have a supervisor. Life just isn't fair is it - management always steps in!

Whidbey Island, WA(Zone 7a)

Sensational history - and right in your own backyard. Literally.

(Zone 7a)

I have no idea how I missed this one until now! Absolutely beautiful, Laurie. I'm coming, too.

Woodinville, WA(Zone 8b)

Ooooooh. Now I sort of feel a kinship with said Yeoman - like he was MY ancestor. :-) Any chance of finding out his name?

Just so I get this right: Mr. Y or his patron, Mr. P, purchased a commission as Yeoman [to the King?]. Mr. Y lived at [let's call it] Meadow House and probably coordinated the work of several men to police activities in the area. The King actually owned the house and land and Mr. Y was allowed to live there as he performed his duties. Then he got a promotion and Henhurst was built. Did he stay at Meadow House while a new level of supervisor moved into Henhurst or did he move to Henhurst as supervisor and a new Yeoman move into Meadow House?

I didn't know about the poop - that must have been a great job (not). But I do know that many native American peoples used urine to tan hides, so why not poop? Must be human enzymes that act to clean or preserve. Anyway, I'd love to share some of what is left in my back yard - tax free!!

I've read my share of British historical fiction and those smugglers often played a prominent part (they are usually referenced as the ones who supplied the French brandy or some such thing). I can see that there might have been some traffic through your area, given the proximity to the Channel. What wonderful history.

I keep going back to 1527 . . . must do some research to see what the typical house features were .. .

Langley, WA(Zone 7b)

I think it's amazing to be living amongst such history! Our house was built in 1992. (g)

Gwen

Poulsbo, WA(Zone 8a)

Great history on your home, way to cool to know the history of your home when its a part of history.

My ancestors used the brain matter of the animal to cure the hides also did a lot of chewing them to make then soft.

Burwash Weald, United Kingdom(Zone 9b)

It is things like that Tils, that I think are so important to remember - so much of the process of life has been removed from most peoples lives (although I am definately not advocating returning to people being feces collectors or leather chewers) - but the how-to, and the manual labour of life does seem to be getting lost. In some way, I think the physical, generationally based knowledge of gardening is a part of its draw - it allows us to connect with previous generations, and I know that is a big part of the pleasure for me. Sowing, nurturing, harvesting always leave me very much in contact with the previous owners of this farm. It never fails to float into my thought how many others have done this before me, would they approve of this change (the answer is always yes), and most of all, 'now how did they do that?!'

This is the link to my favourite museum http://www.wealddown.co.uk/ if you scroll down half way on the opening page there is a house there from roughly our period - although it is much much posher than ours, closer to Henhurst. But it gives you an idea of what they are like.

I'll get out the document we have listing the names - it gets a bit confusing with all the Johns and Thomas' there weren't a lot of family names at that time - so there are an awful lot of John Thomas and Thomas John - a bit 'begat'ing like, so we are quite sure who lived where. Katie, you've got a pretty clear idea of how it worked (and probably still works!) - if you wanted a commission in the army, someone had to put you forward for it, and that had to be backed up by a sum of money - alot of the systems still work that way here, especially becoming a lawyer, MP, or a surgeon. And several of the Guilds (Silversmith, Bookbinders, Goldsmiths, Haberdashers) are still very strong institutions.

glad you find it interesting. I am just fascinated to be part of this process.

Langley, WA(Zone 7b)

You mention how to's getting lost. England seems to me, at least from a faw-away viewpoint, to be trying to keep them. I get the British version of Country Life and there are often articles about people who are still teaching the trades like stone wall building or thatching. There is nothing like that on the west coast. I hope there is still a small bit on the east coast where there is more history.

It is so apparent in houses. You see the older homes with terrific details that were done by hand by master craftsmen and you just cannot replicate them nowadays. The young people don't seem in the least interested. And the upcoming generations, raised on computers and gameboys, are sure to be even worse. Why would kids raised on fast food in front of the tv care about beautiful dining tables when they have so rarely eaten at one? We have cane chairs that are in need of repairing but in the two states I've lived in, no one knows how to fix them. My husband keeps saying he's going to learn but I think that will have to wait until retirement for him.

It's sad to see the knowledge and talent die out.

Gwen

Langley, WA(Zone 7b)

Laurie, that museum looks neat. Do you ever go to any of their events or classes or focus days?
Gwen

Marysville, WA(Zone 7a)

Well put Gwen

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