CLOSED: Melangyna lasiopthalma ?

Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

oops forgot the pic;

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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

frontal view;

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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

and this is perhaps the same one on another day;

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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

Oh, I think I was wrong! Perhaps it's Eupeodes corollae...

http://www.gardensafari.net/pics/vliegen/zweefvliegen/eupeodes_corollae_hs4_2645.jpg

Lincoln, United Kingdom(Zone 8a)

Your last pic on the Iris is a female, the first one is a male. The last one does look like the female Eupeodes corollae as in gardensafari.

Your first one, a male, could be a different species.

http://popgen.unimaas.nl/~jlindsey/commanster/Insects/Flies/SpFlies/Eupeodes.corollae.html

I would rely more on the diptera.info site, but they only have one pic of E. corollae male. The marks look very similar except the bottom band looks to nearly join. As you have a female there will be a male around, maybe this is variable.

http://www.diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=1148

I found a long list of insects on a Belgian site which may be useful, a click on the red mark to the left shows the pics. No male though of this one!

http://www.entomart.be/listetotale.html

Gardensfari has a pic of the male E. corollae, the patterns meet at the sides where yours falls short.

http://www.gardensafari.net/pics/vliegen/zweefvliegen/eupeodes_corollae_ha4_2833.jpg

I know there is one which does this if I can find it.

Or does it fall short, this pic seems to show that.

http://www.gardensafari.net/pics/vliegen/zweefvliegen/eupeodes_corollae_ha4_2843.jpg

I feel sure it was E. luniger which fell short on the pattern of the male, and is similar to E. corollae.

http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/imgmay07/eupeodes_luniger2.jpg

The pattern looks narrower on E. luniger, but it does fall short of the sides as your male's does. The angle of your shot may make the pattern look fatter? Maybe we should hang fire on that one, I'm sure the pattern on yours in much broader.

http://images.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&q=eupeodes+luniger&btnG=Search+Images


Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

Yes the male E.corollae in the unimaas-site has its bands slightly differently shaped, they are more straight.

That Belgian site with the list is very interesting! I must put it with my favorites! It's a mystery to me how you manage to find these..
The female E.corollae really does look identical to my male in my eyes except of the colour which is much paler than mine in their second picture on the list...

What a subtle difference between E. luniger and E.corollae!!!

I have a couple more of the same in different angles that may help;
in a slighly different angle;

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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

sideways;

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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

don't you think that it does look the same like this one which is the same one like on the Iris ?
(Although the pics of the male and the female were taken on different days, they were both in the garden, the first feasting on the wild flower bouquet)

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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

ah no, now I see what you mean with 'falling short' on the side on the first one. It is different indeed!

Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

Oh I'm completely messed up now! It is the one on the Iris that falls short on the side, the last one I've send is different than the one on the Iris!

Perhaps this is the female of the one on the wild flower in the vase ?

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