The Yamato-Noen company was the 1st Japanese outlet to offer the speckled types (i.e., Fujisibori and Kanoko) that we in the West have so much enjoyed...the speckled types are no longer offered by Yamato-Noen...
I thought I would post some information from the asagao section of their mailorder catalog and some of the information contained in the actual seed packets for 'historical' and general reference...
Here is the asagao page from the 2005 catalog...
A listing of the types offered in the catalog pictured in the previous post...starting from left to right...
The asagao names in Kanji and descriptions in a mixture of Kanji and Kana...
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The 'top of the line' seeds were distributed only through the Yamato-Noen mailorder in metal foil packages as shown in the accompanying photo of the front and backside of a package of Fujisibori...
The 'economy line' seeds were offered through the Yamato-Noen mailorder department but were also to found in some specialty shops...these paper packages had a universal product barcode on the back of the packets...
A frontal view of a packet of Aogakiyama...with the asagao name that appears on the front in Kanji and in tiny letters of Kana enlarged and attached to the bottom of the photo...included for comparison (as the lower gray colored area ) is an enlargement of the description from the catalog page...notice the significant different look of the hand written Kanji as compared to the more formal (and usually much easier to read) printed letters
Back view of a package of Aogakiyama...including helpful cultivation instructions...
The primo line of seeds also sported a pictorial identifying placetag with a different set of cultivation instructions per each different cultivariety...
Here are the cultivation hints located on the back of the pictorial identification markers for
Fujishibori,Hakuhou,Fujigasume and Toukan...
P.S. -
I would be interested to see the instructions located on the pictorial markers for Dainitirin,Asuka,Yamatoji and Kannami...I think that some other members here may have these to share...
This message was edited Dec 6, 2008 10:44 AM
Almost forgot the Kanoko cultivation hints.....
The Kanji and Kana for the elusive Kagerou as it appeared in the Yamato-Noen catalog (characters in the upper lighter band) and as stamped on the seed packet...
Please share your Yamato-Noen memorabilia...especially the cryptic growing hints on the backside of the pictorial place markers which may become the 'golden baseball cards' of the asagao world...
TTY,...
Ron
Very interesting thread, Ron! I bought a book from Amazon Japan last year (somehow I was able to register as a customer) on Japanese Morning Glories. Of course, it is written in native language, but it has all sorts of tips on growing the vines in various formats. Someday I will figure out the translation, if I live long enough. It has some photos of JMG cultivars I have not seen before; makes me want to grow them ALL!
Joseph
Great information Ron. It makes me wonder about the Kanoko and which parents were used to get that one.
Thanks.
Joseph - Well,why don't you post the photos (on some thread on the MG forum) of the JMG cultivars in your book that you have not seen elsewhere...(!?)
TTY,...
Ron
If the author doesn't like it invoke / cite the "Fair Use" clause / laws...
Please do post, my grandmother, although she is Korean, speaks, reads, and writes fluent Japanese. I'm sure I could get her to help me translate for you. As many of you know, I left my home state of New Jersey a year and a half ago to teach English and visit my relatives in Korea. I am so tempted to take my week vacation next month for Japan's Asagao festival so I can take pictures and bring back tons of seeds to share with everyone. Has anyone visited Japan lately or know of any tour guide sites that offer horticultural tours?
Oh! what an awesome opportunity! I Unfortunately, don't know anything about Japan or any horticultural tours. But I certainly envy you such a trip! Yes! Please do take photos and bring back lots of seed packs! I would certainly be interested in trading with you. :-)
I would so love to see pictures of the Asagao festival, Angel. Thanks for the thread, Ron, and hope to see Joseph post, too.
Joseph - Thanks for posting nice clear closeups of the Asuka,especially the plastic marker tag...I notice that the Asuka planting instructions mention something in .15 ppm...(!)
We will eventually get all of these translated...
Still looking for closeup views of the tags from:
Dainitirin
Hanafubuki
Yamatoji
I have a 'feeling' that there are people on this site that have the tags that are still MIA and am hoping that they will eventually come forward and share with everyone...(!)
Thanks (!)
Ron
Siun Seed Package with closeup of Japanese character name descriptors located on the backside of the packet (in red) and characters from Yamato-Noen catalog
Tanchou Seed Package with closeup of Japanese character name descriptors located on the backside of the packet (in red) and characters from Yamato-Noen catalog
Tobihino Seed Package with closeup of Japanese character name descriptors located on the backside of the packet (in red) and characters from Yamato-Noen catalog
Dainitirin tag pictorial
Dainitirin plastic marker tag instructions on rear
Joseph - You are thinking the same thing that I have been regarding what is depicted on that tag...unless they are indicating an easy night time protection from the cold for early spring starters...
The Dainitirin rear instructions are a duplicate of what is shown on the rear of the Hakuhou in the post here
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=5057170
I will post the larger individual tag images that can be easily read,especially for someone who is capable and willing to translate these nifty little cultural clues...
We'll find out 'eventually'...
TTY,...
Ron
P.S. Still hoping that someone will eventually be willing to share the lone missing plastic tag marker from the Yamatoji
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/106181/
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I just talked to a friend of mine at the dealership today and he said he would be glad to look at and translate japanese for me, and he is going back to Japan in a couple weeks, I have asked him to see what he can find in the way of JMG seed packets.. He has been here for a long time, but goes home quite often to visit his family.. I am going to copy and print some of this post so he can look at it if it is okay with you all.. Debra
there're lucky girls !
Debra - That would be awesome! Great idea!!! Tell your friend we really appreciate it.
I was thinking that the cup/pot over the sprouting seed was to keep the humidity high while it was germinating. Here in Florida we have high humidity. But other places may not. I know the humidity really helps with quick germination and growth. Or perhaps y'all are correct that it is cold weather protection for the young vines. Interesting ...
I wonder why the company discontinued Fujisibori and Kanoko? They are such fabulous plants. Maybe they couldn't get enough seeds from their vines to market them on a wide scale...my Fujisibori vines were 8 in number and I only got perhaps 30 good seeds total from them and the container was always full of flowers. It was also that way with low seed production with the one Shi-kanoko vine.
Joseph - I get but a couple of seeds of Fuji Shibori. Very disappointing! But I will be growing it out again, too! It is a beautiful vine and bloom. Hanafubuki had low seed production, too. Nearly none. I am hoping it is the cold weather and not the infertile issue...
Here Akatsuki no Umi full of flower and healthy flower , I make hand pollinisation with brush : result no seed at all.
I will try the second way to make the pollonisation , more precise.
and I need to buy clockmaker glasses.
Japanese company have fertile line that they preserve as a treasure , someting not to sell.
Laurie say in the forum history that Blue Silke had low seed production but Akatsuki no Tsuyu make her a lot .
something like that
Edited to keep this thread on track
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Joseph - The Yamato-Noen catalog pages that I have were sent to me by previous contacts in Japan.
The Yamato-Noen line of asagao are available only through the mailorder catalog and the order form in the catalog must be sent in for them to fill an order as they will not not accept orders via telephone,although I'm not sure if they will accept orders via fax (from within Japan) or not.
I honestly do not know if they would be willing to send a catalog outside of Japan,but companies in Japan are not legally allowed to send seeds out of the country for retail consumers...seeds are only sent to wholesalers if the supplier has an export permit and the recipient has an import permit...any orders not accompanied by a phyto-sanitary certificate would be at risk of being confiscated for lack of required documentation.
TTY,...
Ron
