I am hopeing your does well, I have three in various parts of the gardens and they are about one tenth the size you have. I noticed late afternoon wilt and the nursery habitat says they like damp places, well mine aren't THAT damp, so if your makes it at the side of the road let me know I won't worry about mine.
Saw some Snake Root today, almost bought it just for those dark burgandy leaves.
Help! I've been BIT!
I will definitely post pictures, but I'll have to break out my old zip discs. The first roses bloomed yesterday and today, Harison's yellow, a rugosa that is probably Hansa and a little Scotch briar know as Double Red Burnet, although it is pink with a rose stripe here and there. More in the new thread tomorrow.
ge,
before I planted it I had to water it every day or it wilted. The spot its in has partial shade ... will let you know how it does.
Dear Pua, Aloha! and Welcome to DG Northeastern forum. I get out your way now and again to see the Tower Hill Botanic Garden now and again. Definitely do some roses. With all that manure they will love you. My Hibiscus have begun adapting to their summer outdoor life here in Saugus. I honeymooned in Hawaii 25 years ago.
Good luck with all that gardening! Come to a Round Up and meet some of us!
Martha
Pauana: They are native to creeksides so probably constant watering is whats needed. I will have to replace it if that becomes a necessary nuisence.
My gardens are new after yanking out a twenty year old hedge of junipers.
I love the Ligularia color, mine has the daisy type flowers instead of the spikes.
Here's luck to both of us.
Aloha, gardenmart!
Hawai'i has changed a lot in 25 years! Much more traffic but it's still beautiful when you get outside of Honolulu or go to the outer islands. Did you enjoy it there?
After hearing about Tower Hill from numerous people, we finally went and joined last weekend because they were having a plant sale and members could get in early. What a fabulous place! It was a bit crowded so we are looking forward to a visit when we can really take our time.
Does your hibiscus spend the winter inside?
When we lived in northern Indiana we used to drive up to Michigan a lot and there was a farmer's market stand that we would frequent that had hibiscuses growing along side it. Now I don't think they would have dug those up and brought them inside but they looked like the real deal I grew up with in Hawai'i. Is there a variety that's hardy enough to withstand our winters? I've been checking out something on the white flower farm website called a Hibiscus syriacus Sanchoyo aka Rose of Sharon. It's supposed to be good for our zone but though it looks beautiful, it doesn't look the same.
ge,
lol! Your pauana abbreviation is dangerously close to pauhana ... pau is "finished" in Hawaiian and hana is work. Hawaiians are teased for always wanting it to be pauhana-time.
Puananiloa translates to:
Pua = flower
nani= beautiful
loa = very
or very beautiful flower ... what I hope to achieve with my garden. So a good abbreviation is pua. But pauhana ... now when it gets hot and humid outside I won't mind hearing that too!
I think junipers were some of the shrubs/trees we "yanked" out. How'd it go for you? Did you do it yourself? My husband and I did ours and boy we had a tough time trying to get the roots out with the shrub ... sadly, we ended up taking a chainsaw to it and just trimmed it down to ground level but left a stump ... I cover them up with containers. And the shrubs/trees finally got chipped a few weekends ago. So though it appears I have open spaces in my garden where I could move a container and replace it with a rose, some of those containers are there for a reason!
I didn't know there were ligularia with daisy-type flowers! I'll have to check those out!
Nona
pua GOOD grief it could have been wors, like slang for something awful. Please excuse me for not checking above my post.
The is the garden I am working on before it was planted just striped of junipers.
Excuse the Photoshop drawings I do that to get a sense of what I want as far as height and size.
Jo Ann
how it looked in May
Ligularia is in there somewhere, very small plant compared to yours.
ge,
using photoshop is a great idea. Your new garden looks like mine last year ... and the same garden this year is fabulous ... I love the anticipation of watching things grow and every morning finding something that has bud or sprouted up overnight. In 18 months I have become a full-fledged garden junky. What else did you plant or have plans for?
We're headed for the mid to upper 90's ... it will be pauhana time much earlier than usual this weekend! And I'll have to keep my eye on that ligularia.
Nona
I moved here last July so have 10 times the garden space to look out for and watch.
I went nuts online ordering from the DG recomended nurseries and MAN waht a difference so far. We'll see next spring when things don't come up.
Anyway at the far end where the Vibernum is it gets some sun but mostly dappled shade, I have Painted fern and Hosta Big Daddy and Tocamura(sp)both large,intermixed with Campanuls Porchenk? "Blue Falls" I learned that trick from Pirl,and others planting a creeper or cascading plant to cover the ground
Moving forward I have Ligularia Bears Breach Lilies Asiatics as well at tall trumpits,Astilbe, Heleopsis verigated,small hostas,Bergenia,Agastache,tulips,verigated hosta "Lemon Wave"annuals and saving room for something I'll fall in love with next spring.
You know there will always be another plant in our future.
puananiloa - what does your name mean? I tried google-ing it, but couldn't come up with anything. My ex-best friend moved to Hawaii about 15 years ago (that's why she's ex!) and married a native.
primrose ... puananiloa is not my real name of course ... but it translates to very beautiful flower (somebody else already had puanani--beautiful flower--so I added a "very" to it). My real name is Nona and it's nice to meet you!
Posting a couple of pics of critters that have been hanging around lately ... I think this one must have a nest down by our pond (it's fenced in ... previous owners used to have a gaggle of geese in the pond and they were protected from the coyotes).
And I spotted this gal in the middle of our lawn this afternoon ... I heard from previous owners that she lays her eggs under our deck and we caught her heading back to the stream. I don't know how big turtles get in this neck of the woods but to me she seemed big ... maybe the size of a large roasting pan.
So this prompted me to ask my husband, how do turtles survive our winters? Anyone know? Do they hibernate?
ge,
I'm not familiar with many of your plants but will look them all up. I mail ordered most of my garden last year and did not have one problem with anything coming back this year so you should hopefully be okay ... especially if you stuck with those that didn't have any negative reviews.
Nona
Yep turtles hibernate, I think your turtle is a mud turtle but don't stake your life on it.
I think they burrow in the mud at the bottom of ponds and sleep there until everything wakes up in April, plants too.
After all it wouldn't be fair to come back to life and have nothing to eat.
I'm sorry I was so hasty in writting my list down some of the plants are common names.
I did forget one or two Laninastrum verigated with little yellow flowers and Fall Aster "purple dome."
It's between the Bergenia and the Oxalis Vulcanatum and annual
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Pua,
You can talk turtle with Kassia! She has a stream behind her house and the turtle had laid its eggs in her yard. She had the babies at the roundup last summer.
Martha
Grrrrrr ... I looked out the window this morning and saw these rooting around my hollyhocks ... hollyhocks that I've waited 12 months to see bloom. And I planted a new baby plant to the right ... a new variety for me, alcea rosea nigra, and it appears to be completely smashed. I went out and yelled at them like a wild woman. If they touch any more of those hollyhocks ... are they a protected species?? Is turtle stew any good? Hmmmph!
And neither of these are the same turtle that I posted a pic of earlier ... quite a bit smaller. I had some critter steal all the tulips out of one bed ... well not all, he left two which looked completely stupid ... and deer munched on the yew but an attack by turtles????? What's the world coming to?! LOL ...
That's the saddest thing I have ever seen.
I don't think Liquid Fence has a spray for turtles.
Wow - that's a new one. Don't have them, fortunately.
Turtles seem to be a bulldozer sort of animal. They probably have paths to get where they are going which they were doing long before you got there. You may have to plant things out of the way because there's really no getting rid of the turtles.
Yes, Pua, my hibiscus spend the winter in my little sunroom. I put them out in the spring, or what I thought was spring this year and it was probably too chilly so they are coming back from almost complete defoliation at the moment. but most of them are now up enjoying the sun and heat on my brown deck and coming back nicely. They are the only plants that actually prosper up there. A couple need a bit more pruning, but I should have flowers back soon. Here's a picture of one of them from last year
Martha
Hey according to the weather channel, Michigan is part of the Northeast. :o)
I just wanted to say I love what you have done. I just wanted to address the daylily situation. I know you said your neighbor gave you some. But there are lots of newer colors and combinations of colors out there. You should find one or two you love. Here is a picture of one of my newest favorite daylilies. Head Turner.
I see you have clematis ... my second love!
Turtles ... yikes!, who knew they could do such damage!
Nice DL, toofew. I love clems too. How many do you have? Have you bought from Silver Star? I like your name. How many animals would you like?
and would you like a few turtles? it appears I will have some additions whenever these eggs hatch ... assuming I don't find them first ...
ge, are you having the same heat wave we are?
I checked on the ligularia every few hours yesterday and around 3:00 it was suddenly so wilted I thought there was not going to be a recovery ... but it did and I have done some preemptive watering already this morning and will go out again at lunch ... if it's going to be so high maintenance where it is I may just move it to the stream ... and then of course the turtles'll probably crush it on their way to crushing the hollyhocks...
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puananaloa, you might want to contact your Extension office to see if they have any advice on the turtle problem.
twofew, I noticed that about Michigan, and Ohio is in the Midwest - I guess you guys are drifting east and OH is drifting west. Needs some cows?
Those silly tectonic plates!
HEAT WAVE???? what heatwave
OH you mean the 90+ degrees already this AM.
I watered at 6 AM and staying inside.
Might venture out to photo the Black Iris.
My daughter#3 has Ligularia in the same type spot and just ignores the afternoon wilt. She waters it no more often than other plants.
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Oh Nona sad you have a turtle problem.... mine are cute... and they have their own garden... I found the eggs and could not let them die... but I lkept them because they are not going to grow much... they live in my bedroom... and they are clean and washed and polished... they are sissy turtles... totally spoiled...
I refuse to go to the site where I found them... afraid I could find some more eggs... no more... I am too soft...
I heard that the reason they come is because we fluffy out the ground... so they don't have to dig so much to hide their eggs... not sure that is the truth but they are smart... let a human do the hard job!
From the pics I would say those are Snapping Turtles. The eggs should hatch out around end of Aug./Sept.. A couple old Gals lay their eggs here every yr.. After they are done laying the eggs I put a wire fence around the spot so the eggs won't be disturbed. When they start hatching our Border Collie and German Shepard follow the babies around and escort them to the pond. The big Mamas that lay the eggs are very determined to dig where "They" want. Now I just garden around them. Oh yeah, the Shepard learned real fast that Snappers are quick and WILL Bite. Has a nice scar on his nose. He will not get any closer than 6 ft. of the big ones. kdcon
What a great short story.
Who needs TV when there is adventure in your own garden.LOVED it.
Nona, I was reading bach through the tread and noticed your Hawaiian lesson. Girl, what are you do up here with us "Frozen Choosen?" My wife Marilyn and I went to Hawaii a few years ago on a cruise. I may have brought my body home, but I left my heart there. I spent several years while I was in the service in the south east asia area. I have never been able to adapt to the cold.
Being from Hawaii you are aware of the whales out there. That is one reason I couldn't lay down on the sand at any of the beaches. Every time I did....they kept trying to push me back into the water and yelling, "save the whales!"
Chuck
ROFL Chuck ... my husband says the same thing about him (well, if I'm truthful, us!). But you know the good thing about the Hawaiian culture ... the ali'i (royalty) were all momona (fat) because they had all the food they could eat and even now it's more acceptable to be momona than here on the mainland. So the next time you go to Hawai'i, enjoy the beach!
kdcon, do you know if they return to the same place every year? Do you know if the babies return to where they were hatched to leave their eggs?
The one thing that blew my mind (I don't remember which island) was all the wild chickens we saw. I never knew that they just ran around like that. I wonder if thats where KFC gets its chicken in Hawaii?
Chuck
Everyone knows that Michigan and Ohio CANNOT be in the same section of the country! LOL
I am from Trenton, NJ, toofew!! So you can be in the Northeast too. Pua, here are some turtle facts from the Mass dept of fish and game. Some good pictures looks like.
http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/nhesp/conservation/herps/turtle_tips.htm
Martha
Great turtle pictures Martha.
Martha ... that was very helpful ... it appears mine are not endangered ... or at least they are not on the MESA list ... they may still be endangered ;-)
Chuck, You weren't in Honolulu when you saw all those chickens were you? When I get back from my current trip I'll post some pictures of the birds we saw ... it was wild