New Woodland Garden-Ideas, anyone?

Rehoboth, MA(Zone 5a)

Victor, thank you

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

You're welcome, Maria. On the plant, Daisy, I am hedging on the PI call because I don't see the middle leaf sticking out too much. It always does on PI.

South China, ME(Zone 5a)

A few ferns in my woodline........

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South China, ME(Zone 5a)

another.......

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Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

What's that second one, Celeste?

South China, ME(Zone 5a)

This is sedum, ferns, polemonium, and an unidentifiable green & white foliage that I love.

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South China, ME(Zone 5a)

also along the woodline I have bleeding hearts.

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Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Isn't that Bishop's weed - the one with the white edge?

South China, ME(Zone 5a)

Could be Victor...I stole a piece from my brothers house 2 years ago and put it near the wood line. It's been growing great ever since.

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

And what was that second fern?

South China, ME(Zone 5a)

Stolen from my brothers also! Hee heee

South China, ME(Zone 5a)

Did I ever mention I was a plant thief???

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

I need your brother's address! Or yours!

South China, ME(Zone 5a)

Would you like some?? I can see what I can 'dig' up!

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Only if you have extra to spare. Thanks.

Southern Dutchess Co, NY(Zone 5b)

Daisy, it's entirely possible that the 3 leafed plant is a Jack-in-the-Pulpit! It's difficult to tell from your photo and I am posting one I took earlier today to see if maybe you can tell. The plants have 3 leaves just like PI, and don't form the "pulpits" when they are young.

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Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Yes, now that I think of it, I planted some last year and now I have a few with just the three leaves like that too.

Rhinebeck, NY(Zone 5b)

mamasita: I'm pretty sure it's not PI because of that long fleshy, non-viney stem that looks a lot like your Jacks!

Maine, United States(Zone 5b)

Pixie's sedum reminded me of a plant I love in my shade garden that would be appropriate for a woodland garden- Sedum Ternatum. So pretty in bloom.

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Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Georgeeeeous picture Noreaster.
Great sedum against the rocks. Treat for my eyes.
Pixie: How long has the beautiful Bishops plant been growing in your garden?
It's very invasive and will shade out other plants.
If you like it where it is just ignore me.
Bishops plant took out an entire privit hedge at my old house.
Grew taller than the trimmed hedge and shaded it out.
We groe the plant on banks by the road or anywhere you dont want anything else.

South China, ME(Zone 5a)

Maybe it's not Bishops weed then because this is only 4-6" high and doesn't seem to spread taht fast.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

If the plant doesn't get any taller then perhaps your right, or Its a cultivated variety.
Purple Loosetrife is a problem in streams and low areas but the cultivar is tame and beautifu.

South China, ME(Zone 5a)

I have the white Loosetrife and so far no problems after 2 years.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Yours is a cultivated variety no problems with them, the wild plant is choking out drainage ditches and invading wetland habitats for wild wading birds. It looks beautiful from the New York state thruway at Montazuma Swamp but it's keeping migrating birds from comming there in fall and generally decreasing the acerage for water birds.

S of Lake Ontario, NY(Zone 6a)

I have white loosestrife in bottomless pots for barriers, but still keep a close eye on them. If they escape their barriers I may just keep them in regular pots and see if they will survive the winters.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

That way of planting is new to me.
Have heard it referred to a few times.
Are there only certain plants that need their roots controlled?
Are the bottomless pots used so roots won't crowd denser planted beds?
What's the deal?

S of Lake Ontario, NY(Zone 6a)

The bottomless pots are to control invasive plants from getting out of control. It doesn't work for anything that spreads by above ground runners - like lamium. It should be a heavy duty pot that the roots can't break. Plant the entire pot with the spreader plant inside. I started with 1 loosestrife, and now have 10 pots full, that's why I'm keeping an eye on them even in barriers. And I have them in places with nothing else around, not in my main beds.

Buffalo, NY(Zone 6a)

I have heard that even self-sterile cultivars of purple loosestrife can cross-pollinate with nearby plants of the wild variety & thus spread the species.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Hollycow is nothing safe.
I love the look of Loosetrife but think I will take a pass on it. I have Veronica May Night to give me that purple blue satisfaction.

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Here's my three-leaf guy.

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Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

K I L L I T

Southern Dutchess Co, NY(Zone 5b)

DON'T kill it! That's a Jack-in-the Pulpit! Just no flower (Jack).

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

OOOPS Glad I have no influence over anyone especially Victor.
I saw three and panicked sorry.

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

I know it's a Jack. That's what I said earlier. I did spot some real PI today. Will be spraying it.

Voorheesville, NY

Hi There, I'm new to Dave's Garden. I'm in zone 5 too. I started a woodland garden last year and it's coming great.

I planted with great success. I have the tech names for all of these if you need them.

Kirengeshoma Korena and Palmata
Actaea Japonica, Hillside Black Beauty, Red Baneberry, White baneberry (Doll's Eyes)
Sweet Woodruff
Variagated Solomon Seal and Gaint SS
Spreading Globe Flower (endangered in our area) - needs really moist soil
Jack in the Pulpit - American plant out of Massachusetts
Tons of Toad Lilies
Tons of Ferns and Hostas
Bleeding Hearts
Butterbur - spreads quick and like water (leave get 3' in diamater)
Barrenswort
Rogersia
Joe Pye Weed
Asian Twin Leaf

I plan on adding more Asian plants which are great in our zone.

Lower Hudson Valley, NY(Zone 6b)

Welcome flwrpwr! To DG and specifically, to the NE forum. Nice list. Please post a photo if possible. Butterbur can spread pretty quickly, especially in a moist area. I have the variegated one, which is slower but is starting to wander past where I want it.

Voorheesville, NY

Thanks for the welcome. I bought an old Victorian that had great garden potential. Two owners ago (30-40 years ago), a woman planted a ton of evergreen, vines and a few perennials made it through the years without much help. My yard is terraced and ends with a bit of woods. Last year I made three new gardens areas with all new plants. I added tons of flowers too. The grass was 2-3 feet tall, and the septic system leaked for years all over it. It was gross, but I had it fixed two years ago when we moved in. The plants love it. I thought it might be too acidic, but everything loves it and grows great.

I will take pictures as my plants bloom and post. I can't wait to see the Doll's Eyes. I purchased those after they bloomed last year. I didn't even get to see the berries! I have a really old gigantic celmatis too that will bloom soon. The flowers are almost the size of dinner plates. That I will definately post. My Mother keeps asking for pics of it too.

My neighbor gave the butterbur to me. I cut out some of the leaves to the ground in one area where I have it. It's really nice in my woods where I don't care so much if it wanders.

S of Lake Ontario, NY(Zone 6a)

I tried growing the red baneberry, but all the plants died. I did get a few berries I tried to get seeds from but nothing worked.

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7a)

Welcome , NEflwrpwr! I'm a newbie to DG, too....everyone's been so friendly and helpful.

I'm also new to gardening, though you're obviously not! What an awesome list you've got there. I'm with Vic: I'd love to see a pic.

Voorheesville, NY

Thanks. I'm new and old in gardening. I haven't actively gardened in a few years. I used to help my Mom growing up with her gardens, and just read alot online and quite a few magazines. I had gardens in my old house, but not very much...not like here. Younger people have been buying up the old run-down Victorian's on my street, fixing them up and putting in gardens. We all plant shop together. All of our spouses think we are insane. Joining the area's garden club with the older ladies helped too. Most of them are 20-30 years older then me and know tons about gardening.

As to the Red Baneberry, I planted it last year at the end of my season and it came up fine this year. Its almost 2' x 1/2' already. I just planted the white a few days ago. it's a good sized plant. My soil is very, very damp there w/decent drainage and upgainst a retaining wall. I also watch my new plants like a nut. If they don't do good where I plant them, then I move them to different soil and/or sun.

I'm also lucky enough to have a nursery by me called Helderledge. They don't have an online store. I did get some plants from white flower farm. They are still tiny-tiny after a year. I would like to take the drive to CT to go there.

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