Just waking up

Mulberry, FL

This is the first flower on of this one the picture doesn't do it justice just got through raining here first time in about 2 and a half weeks the heat is in the high 90's everyday. Tired of watering today I get a break.

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Mulberry, FL

My helpers wife and her young

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Mulberry, FL

Common white has a sweet scent

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Beautiful pictures as always, Dana. Thanks for sharing them! Those plumies are quite lovely. We are finally starting to get a little heat, and I spent a couple of hours watering today. A few yellow/whites are starting to open for me.

Mulberry, FL

Thanks Clare I figured your weather is like mine. Way too hot I had to move the seedlings they were burning up I watered them plenty but the sun is way too strong. Cuttings the same way at first I thought it was the ones from thailand most of my seedlings came from there. But the rooted cuttings are showing signs of burn. Things are changing I think it's the ozone sun's rays are too strong. Might have to get shade cloth they have good growth just the leaves are not the dark green much lighter green.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Dana, my trees usually get some sunburn too every year. It is because there are no leaves to protect the stems when the leaves are first coming in and because the summer sun is so much stronger than the past winter's sun. After the leaves are full grown, they will protect the new stems. Some of my trees have stems which are dark brown from sunburn. It's unsightly but not fatal. It can improve with time.

Mulberry, FL

Thanks for the info I have a few older peices that I bought this way the trunks have cracking or should I say splits at the very bottom looks a little woody. It does fine so I leave it alone.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Yes, eventually the trunks get splits and look very woody with age. Here's a picture of an old plumeria tree grown in a container.

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Mulberry, FL

Clare too bad you live so far away friends of mine at a local park gave me alot of tree pots. They were planting trees and were throwing away the pots. I asked if I could take them and they saved the rest for me. I know you use alot and they cost if shipping wasn't so high now I 'd send you some of the large ones. I have one a cat used for a scratching post its about 4 inches thick at the bottom. Ihas one side of the flesh part gone it healed and doesn't seem to bother it. Its flowering now and growing so it looks worse than it is.

Yuma, AZ

Beautiful flowers Dana, thanks for sharing.
Davie

Mulberry, FL

Thanks for looking. I think its neat to look at everybody's else's plants.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

That's nice of you, Dana. I'm pretty set with containers now. I bought about 20 25-gallons a while ago and haven't used them yet. That will be a chore when 20 go to those bigger containers. That's great that you got a bunch for free. Those big containers are expensive.

Yuma, AZ

Hi Clare, where do you get your large containers?
Davie

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Davie, I get my containers from the same people that I order my potting soil from. They deliver so that is a big help to me. Here's there link: http://www.westernfarmservice.com/ Here's the location in Yuma: http://www.westernfarmservice.com/locations/arizona/arizona_2.html at 10741 S. Shortway Ave. Prices are tiered, depending on how much you buy. You should get your own personal representative.

Yuma, AZ

Hahahahahahaha LMAO That brings back some old memories...I use to work for Western Farm Service. I ran the three warehouses at Shortway Ave. for over a year when I was 19. Mark, the guy in the link, was my boss. I now buy some of my chemicals and fert from them for my lettuce. They didn't sell soil back then...only fertilizer and pesticides, I didn't know they did now. Thanks for the update...going to have to stop back by the old office.
Thnaks for the link Clare.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

That's too funny, Davie. I would think that they should sell everything you need now. I buy Sunshine Mix #4 because it drains so well and dries so fast. Most of my plumies stay out all year, and I don't worry about them in the winter rain in that mix. You may prefer #5 though since it may retain a little bit more water, which may be desirable for your climate. They should sell pots, perlite, and other stuff too. I also get my Liquid Start (Vitamin B5) from them. It's about $5 per gallon, $20 per case. If they don't have what you are looking for in stock, they can always get it from other surrounding stores. It looks like there are three others around or near the Yuma store.

Yuma, AZ

Yep Brawley/Imp Valley, San Jacinto, Poston, Wellton etc...delivered to them all, but none had soil or pots back then. Thanks for the info...I still know a few of the PCAs there, I will hook up with one of them.

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

There's one near me, too. Glad to hear the Sunshine #4 is good, Clare, as I was going to try that or the ProMix BRK. I don't know why more stores don't carry the larger perlite.

Mulberry, FL

I didn't know there were different size perlite learn something knew every day.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

I'm glad to hear that, Kathleen. The 3.5 cubic foot compressed bales of potting soil come out to be about 7 cubic feet. At around $24 each, it is still cheaper than Supersoil. I think I've seen big bags of Perlite at Green Thumb/Green Arrow Nursery, but I'm not sure. I know that Western Farm Service has a big bag for relatively inexpensive.

Dana, yeah, the Sunshine Mix #4 has larger, courser Perlite, which is better for drainage, whereas the Sunshine Mix #5 has smaller, finer Perlite and more peat for more water retention.

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

I was really talking about the large(coarse) perlite - but larger bags would be good, too. Since they're selling big bags of potting mix, it only makes sense.

Seven cubic feet - wait until DH sees that! Where am I going to put it? Behind the garage with all the other "stuff," I guess. lol

Mulberry, FL

I buy the big bags a home depot I thought you were talking about bigger perlite not the bags lol

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

The products at these stores vary so much from one area to another. We've found differences in what they carry even from one store to another in our area.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

LOL, sorry about that. I was momentarily confused:-) Tee hee:-) I think the one in the big bags at Western Farm Service is the larger courser kind.

Mulberry, FL

Clare how are your babies doing like to see a picture of them. I bought a hundred seeds from that girl on ebay with all the verigated. The ones that sprouted are doing good some have very shiney leaves fat shaped more than a slender leaf. New leaves are always shiny but its 2nd or 3rd leaf still shiney

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Dana! They are all doing good, but I still have them growing in a community container because there is no time to repot them to individual containers at the moment. I'll take a picture of them soon as soon as I can get out there. Some got too dry and became desiccated at the soil line, and so I had to cut above the desiccation and re-root the tiny things. I think many of them re-rooted even though some of them were only about an inch tall. That's bad when I am too busy to water!

That's great about your seedlings. Fat-shaped or rounded-shaped leaves could be an indication of desirable flowers. For example, many of Jack's new hybrids in Thailand have the rounded-shaped leaves. This could be because some are seedlings of Penang Peach, which has the rounded-shaped leaves.

Mulberry, FL

Thanks for the info I have had a problem with mine animals are pulling them out of the pot roots and all If I don't check every day there just hanging out there.

Zolfo Springs, FL(Zone 9b)

Does anyone have a dwarf white plumie? I saw one today at a nursery but they didn't know the name of it. I am thinking of going back and buying it . Are the dwarfs pretty much like the regular ones?

Mulberry, FL

Buried Treasures does check out there cuttings there local

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

There are a couple of dwarf whites -- Dwarf Deciduous and Dwarf Singapore White. I have the Dwarf Singapore White, and it is outstanding. The Dwarfs tend to have smaller flowers, grow slowers, and stay under 5' tall and wide whereas regular plumerias can grow up to 30' tall and wide. Here is my DSW inflo.

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Mulberry, FL

New to me flowering Miami Rose nice large bloom excellent scent

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Mulberry, FL

I see now how they change the looks on ebay

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Mulberry, FL

Wrong picture this tree has the strangest shape I don't think theres any fixing it other than cutting it

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Zolfo Springs, FL(Zone 9b)

Thanks Clare think i need a dwarf. I was recently in Hawaii and brought back a red one and it has lots of new growth on it I am excited to see what it is like.

Mulberry, FL

here with out color change on computer

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Zolfo Springs, FL(Zone 9b)

The last large windstorm we had knocked this one completely over I am hoping it will straighten up. Didn't think it was wise to cut the top off should i?

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Very pretty pictures, Dana!

When you say "knocked this one completely over," does that mean that it is now a cutting, or is it still attached to the parent? If it is a cutting, then you should only remove the leaves. I can't see any reason for cutting the top off.

I would stake it by using green plastic stretchy ties because the ties that you are using don't give and will girdle the tissue of the plumerias. You also want to put the support right up against the plumeria and then pull the plumeria straight and tie tightly. Here's a picture with a staked plumie to show you what I mean. You can remove the stake in a few weeks after the plumeria can remain straight on its own.

Dana, in regard to your wide growth, some cultivars just have that naturally, and pruning will help to make it more compact.

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Mulberry, FL

Clare looking at yours I noyice you have one thats really skinny. Out of my seedlings I have a couple that grow like the rest but are super skinny compared to the rest. Could this be minitures?

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Dana, those were just cuttings a few years ago that started out that way but got beefier.

Seedlings that do that tend to get chunkier after about a year's time.

The Dwarves start out small, grow very slowly, and tend to stay small, but they should be tested by planting them in the ground for a few years so that they have lots of space to grow into to reveal their true size. If you have a seedling that is very small (short) after several years of growth, it is possible that it could be a dward. Thinness usually just indicates immaturity of a seedling.

Zolfo Springs, FL(Zone 9b)

Clare it is still rooted in the ground thanks for the suggestions on the ties I definitely will do that.

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