It is not A. quinquefolia. I agree it is not thalictroides, like I said I confuse them sometimes, not so much the plant just the name. Kind of like I know the difference between a gadwall and widgeon, yet I can't get over flip flopping them even though I know what they are!
I strongly beleive it is Enemion (Isopyrum) biternatum. All of the databases and herbariums I have been searching seem to verify that, Yes, it could have a local variance from what is found in your area. Could you be more specific as to why you think it is not?
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Don't have a clue as to what that is cpartschick, but it is definitely not Rue anemone. This is Rue anemone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalictrum_thalictroides
As far as I know, there are no hairy thalictrums at all, and none have a prominent leaf midrib.
Trillium, the Enemion that grow here are always taller(up to a foot), and mounding. Always more than one set of leaves per stem, and each set at a different node on the stem (and making the stem taller). In fact, I don't think I have ever seen one grow so low to the ground. This mounding is part of the description of the species, but I sure don't see depictions of it via a quick google. All the google pics I see are just like yours. So I have to backtrack, and concede my fault. It is biternatum.
Do you think they can create hybrids? We have all three of those species growing here sometimes even mixed together. I grouped quinquefolia in with them for the longest time because they would all be together. Hmm maybe I have discovered a new variant!!! lol
Trill, I think we both have mysteries!
How fun!
That is just lovely.
Thanks for posting so many great pictures guys.
It's nice to see what grows in north america. Wowzers!
All the above photos you have shared on this thread are found in the NE Georgia Mountain- many are done blooming, like our Trout Lilies, which were over by mid March.
Currently blooming are Showy Orchis and Pink Lady Slippers- my son is especially taken with the native orchids and roams most weekends looking for them. This time it really paid off!!!
We spent about 30 minutes with this clump of Large Yellow Lady Slippers, taking lots of photos and them left them as we found them, 14 plants and 16 blossoms. There were several other "colonies" in the area of 3-7 plants.
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Those are really neat, I had not seen them before.
Oh, what a treasure. We have had 4 of them blooming at once, but the last couple years only the plants. I think the yellow lady slippers are lovely! Aren't they amazing!
How can something like that grow wild in the swamp???
Unbelievable! These yellow slippers are breathtaking. Thank you for sharing this terrific photo.
Isn't it a miracle that such places still exist and people can get to them to enjoy the incredible beauty of nature?
I remember going fishing with my husband in Canada. We parked and he handed me the fishing poles and a bucket and he dragged the canoe through the swamp to the stream (for about a half mile) to get to a lake.
Well, I cannot manage walking through all that with a couple of long fishing poles as fast as he can jump around all the water and muck and drag the canoe full of supplies, so he was way ahead.
I came to a knoll and saw hundreds of pink lady slippers. I had to stop, I was in such awe. (of course he had the camera in the canoe and was NOT coming back) I was just floored by how these were hidden back in the bush. We have a spot of an acre or so that has 50 on it here in our woods at home. But to see solid pink for about a half acre was the most amazing scene. I sure wish I would have gotten that picture.
Wow, I bet that was amazing.
So THATS what that tree is!
I always wondered.
This is such a great forum, you learn SO much from everyone.
Thanks for all the pictures and names guys!
enya, we have a bunch of that back in the woods. It spread itself around after the former owners logged us out. I took a cutting yesterday - thought it would be nice to have up near the house.
North American elderberry is a pioneer tree/shrub to recolonize area.
It will be pushed out by trees as they grow to the edges where there's more sun.
If you plant it in too deep shade, it won't die but you won't get as many flowers/berries.
If you are planning on using the berries/flowers, you want to make sure you got
Sumbucus nigra or Sumbucus nigra ssp americana (black berries) not
Sumbucus racemosa (red berries).
In any event I love this shrub in the natural setting. Mind you it's shape is not regular
and it has die back so you may want to look at a number of them in native setting and
see if that's the look you are going for.
Great photos on this thread!
I'm hoping today's article on "wildflower walks" will get more folks out walking and looking and taking photos... and checking out this forum! http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1089/
(I added a link to this thread) :-)
Aren't those marsh marigolds amazing. They just look like they should be in a pot on the deck or something.
I moved some to another marshy area where I frequently walk. They are really, really hard to transplant. I did have some success though.
(had acres of the plants, so if I lost a couple, I thought no big deal)
The plant seems to have a root that goes down to China and grows into many tree roots. Very hard to dig up and not break off at the root.
Ill keep that tip in mind if I ever find some cchick!
They are gorgeous arent they.
Most wildflowers in the woods stay there. And I leave them where they are found. But moving plants from your own property another spot on your own property is legal and I do it sometimes during certian conditions.
one,
There has to be many of the plants in case the move does not take.
or two,
The plant is in an area where it will be killed due to the DH riding over it with a quad. (on the trail)
(sometimes I will block a trail until the plant can no longer be harmed)
I otherwise do not recommend moving wildflowers.
Nope, you have Trillium sessile - toadshade, a very cool plant. I love the mottling on the leaves.
Oh good! I was hoping toadshade, but my book said it the bloom didn't open. I'll change that in my plant list now that I know for sure.
Thanks!
Here's a trillium that we have. I suspect it is closely related to T. erectum, but is either a sport or an uncommon color.
Oh, and here is a link to the article I did on ephemerals Sunday:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1080/?utm_source=nl_2008-05-05&utm_medium=email
which links to this thread and the one on Natives In the Wild
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Wild geraniums are just starting. One thing I am noticing this spring is the huge variance in how fast plants of the same species are growing. Like these, some are starting, and others are weeks away. Not that I mind if it will extend the bloom time!
I think I already posted a pic of these, labrador violets, but this year is the best I have ever seen them bloom. I've seen nursery specimens covered in blooms, but mine never looked that way. Ths year they are just loaded with blossoms. I have some of these mixed in with wild stone crop ( S. ternatum) and it really makes a striking combo of color.
They probably fertilize theirs.
Try using a violet fert?
That wild sedum is a really nice plant, I found some on my bluff.
Beautiful violets! I love that phlox, what I lovely compact specimen. How much shade you have it in?
