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Seems I have a number of volunteers in the area I grew most of my potted vines last year. Not sure what they are. If anyone can ID any of them, that would be great! Thanks! ~Becky~

#1

#2

#3 Oddly enough ... these 2 blooms are coming from the same vine!

#4

#5

#6 Rebecca???

#7

#8

Maybe 2. is crimson rambler
6. I think also it is Rebecca
7. either Sidney or aka Caprice


What a looker number 1 is and so is number 8

I wish that I had some reseed here. The nice thing about them reseeding is that if you see those first few blooms and decide you don't want them, you can pull the vine out at that time. I'm hoping some of the sunrise serenade reseeded her along with Rebecca and Joyce Cobb.


edited to add: and so is number 8 (we posted at the same time)

This message was edited Mar 22, 2008 10:23 AM

Gorgeous blooms Becky.

Here is novice opinion for what it is worth...

.1 Looks familiar and favors some of your last year pictures. It might be fun to go looking here.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/768127/

Emma I.D.ed them as possible Henka Blue Type Seeds
and she said they look very much like the MG she named Morning Storm.

Another possibility for .1 is is could be a blue youjiro maisugata reseeding as a solid which happens from time to time.

Still another possibility is it could be Star of India or Royal Robe in volunteer form.Did you grow any of those?


.2 pink purpurea (Crimson Ramber and there is a Pink Rambler and also my Pink Hige can display a single flower like this all come to mind but I don`t know for exact sure so I`ll pass on this one.)


.3 Looks like your Joyce Cobb you mentioned last year here in a dilute form: I have one like this too and these are some color variations I found and posted to help people see what they look like side by side.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=3967963

(http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=3967963)
Here on this thread you can find your picture of Joyce Cobb from last year.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/771631/

The blue one in .3 looks like Star of Yelta due to the fuscia throat and blue stripes and med toned intensity of color.

.5 Is reminiscent of a Grandpa Ott if the stripes are reddish but this one has a light throat.

.4 What might happen to a Blue Silk as a volunteer. The large flowered varieties will be smaller in less than luxurious growing conditions. The grass also will crowd them out.

.6 Rebecca

.7 Resembles Sydney or Caprice

.8 Looks like a kikyo or star shape flower with a white picotee but the star shape isn`t very sharp. It could be a mix of kikyo and another type of nil.


Maybe, you could look back on last year and do some research and review to find the ones that favor your pictures to refresh your memory. Also,your pot tags if they are still there can give you clues.

Karen




This message was edited Mar 22, 2008 3:08 PM

I`m out of edits but my Joyce Cobb picture link doesn`t seem to be working.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=3967963

Or copy http:// on your browser then copy/paste and add

davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=3967963

Thanks A and Karen!

#1 is a purple color henka type. No idea what it might be. I don't remember growing one that color. I did have an unknown blue one not too long ago but it didn't quite look like this one in pattern or color.

I agree, I think that #2 might be Crimson Rambler too or possibly Sunrise Serenade before the hige blooms show up.

#3 The darker color one does look like Star of Yelta. I pulled the vine off the ground and both the light colored one and the darker one appeared to be on the same vine. Can that happen? Or do I need to have my eyes examined? I never saw a diluted bloom on my Joyce Cobb vine. Could it be a cross in case these two blooms are NOT on the same vine? Or does a less than optimum growing site create mutant blooms?

#4 Blue silk? Hmmm ... it's a very light colored bloom.

#5 I don't think it's Grandpa Otts. The color isn't right to be that cultivar. I wonder if it is Indigo Feathers before the hige pattern shows up?

#6 - Quite sure it is Rebecca because I DID grow that one and had lots of seeds from it!

#7 My Sidney vine didn't make it to produce seed pods. I don't have any seeds for Caprice. Whatever it is, I love the color.

#8 I agree that it might be a cross of two that I grew last season. I do like it. Will watch to see how future blooms look.

Most of them appear to be I. purpurea vines with large heart shaped leaves.

One more thing: Check the sepals on the light blue #4 and see if it is purpurea or nil.

You are so fortunate to have so many early blooms. :)

Karen

I'm quite sure that #4 is an I. nil. See the leaf with rust all over it. That's the leaf for this bloom. The large heart shaped leaves you see around it in the photo belong to another vine.

I hate rust! I thought it was gone ... finally ... but with the rain we have had off and on, seems the rust is back! Grrrr ......

Check out this blue silk Emma had. Does it remind you of your .4 That could be it or pretty close.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/769378/

#3 - Joyce Cobb dilution and a one of the 'nameless' types in the 'grey twilight' inbetween SOY and GOTT's...
I think these are most likely on 2 different vines
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=4695031


#5 - one of the 'nameless' types in the 'grey twilight' inbetween SOY and GOTT's...
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=4695039

In depth analysis of Star of Yelta and Grandpa Ott's
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/641273/

#4 - dilute Blue Silk aka Akatsuki no Tsuyu
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=4695034
Akatsuki no Tsuyu
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/173453/
Blue Silk
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/87713/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/81266/

The dark-to-medium blue one #8 here
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=4695142
looks to be inbetween a violet and a Blue Sunsmile...


Purple or Violet Sunsmile and/or Good Morning series are vines that are of a bushy dwarf type form
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=4695142
PlantFile entries for Sunsmile mix are in error and actually represent SunRise Mix
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/72397/
Sunsmile Pink
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/152079/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/8856/
Sunsmile Red
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/49887/
Sunsmile Blue
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/153824/
Sunsmile 'Violet looking' one (but doesn't look quite dark enough) in with the general Ipomoea nil entry
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/8858/
Sunsmile Violet is waiting for a photo when a real dark violet one appears...
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/170663/


Hope that helps...

TTY,...

Ron

This message was edited Mar 23, 2008 3:40 AM

#3 I bet that are on two different plants intertwined. The dilution has been sold on ebay as Pink Swirl.
#7 is the variety I have purchased and grown as Sydney.

The other numbers have already been ID'd by the other respondants.

Thanks Ron and Beth. Some very good possibilities! And I looked again yesterday and the 2 morning glories of opposite colors were on 2 different vines! Whew! I was trying to figure out how a dark color and an almost white color could bloom on the same vine. They didn't!

Sunsmiles I grew out in the Fall. Though I don't remember getting any seeds from that one either. But maybe some seed pods were produced and I didn't get out there in time to collect them, so they dropped off right into the ground. The Sydney didn't even make it at all, so I don't know how a Sydney vine could be one of the volunteers. Not likely.