Black-Eyed Susan

I realize it doesn't really matter. All I need to do is plant them both and I ought to get SOME germination, eh? Still I'm curious. Which is the seed? Are they the feathery things on the left (rather like a marigold seed) or are the "pips" on the right the actual seed?

Thanks!
La

Its been a while since I've grown them from seed.Mostly just divide them these days.Its hard to tell from photos.You could try the "paper towel baggie test".I would sow Gladys Knight and the Pips.I remember,I direct sowed them.Nothing came up,so I planted annuals in the same spot.At the end of the season,I pulled the annuals out and low and behold there was B-E-S plants underneath them.The following year they bloomed.Edge

Thanks for the response Edge. The paper towel trick is a great idea!

Here's something I've posted before.....

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4086498

thanks,

Thanks Pford. So the actualy seed are the little pips then?

Whoops - wrong photo.
I meant for you to look at this photo, but I can't find where I posted it earlier.
Here it is again.

Rudbeckia seeds are typically dark brown or Black, and are somewhat smooth and hard.

Good Luck.

Thank you, mystery solved!