LOL. You really have to get the brug bug bad. Say that 10 times fast. LOL. Suddenly you will be buying miticide for $300 for 8 ounces and not blinking an eyelid and you will know you have the brug bug bad. LOL You will tell your kids they need to be on a diet anyway as you serve them beans evey night.
???okay here I go again???
ROTFLMBO!!!!
I am just a beginner with 3 brugs. I have already used Bayers once on them when I thought they might have mealy bug in the soil. Then I got paranoid about broadmites and used Avid on them. They better live!! They are happy on the front porch right now with poly wrapped around the porch.
Later on, JPotts, I want to come see your brugs and get you to come over my way. It is only 20 minutes from Aransas Pass to my house.
LOL with you guys. Hi Kell, is forbid available in the US? and is it safe to use it indoor.? I don't think I need it yet. But knowledge is invaluable - I can store that in memory bank, and retrieve it when I need them. Thanks.
Kim2
Kim2 you like beans?
Kim is that a trick question? Hmmm, yes I like beans.
Gail, Lali girl told me if you add redwood to your soil the soil mealies cease to exist. Well, let me double check on that. I think it was redwood.
Kim, yes you can get Forbid in the US. Rosemania sells it but I got mine on ebay a bit cheaper.
http://rosemania.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page9.html
But beware. Miticide has a very short life cycle which is why they tell you on the back to always rotate them in use. Mites are very good at mutating and getting used to a specific one. Then the miticide will lose its effectiveness. That is why they cost so much, the people doing all the work have only a short window to make back their investment plus. If you read the backs of many miticides it says it controls not kills. Well often it does not even do that and you must repeat the treatment often.
Another reason Neem is so attractive, is that it acts in a different way to kill mites so the mites never can mutate to decrease its effectiveness.
I know I bought Avid first for mucho bucks several years ago and it worked for many people on here but I had no results from it. Then in researching I found out that in California it had been used so much it was no longer effective against our mites.
So what I am telling you, when the mites have driven you nuts enough to spend the big bucks, do a bit of research to make sure you are not buying yesterday's miracle.
And as I recall, it is one of the safer ones (I think it can cause contact dermatitis) but you should read up on it for I haven't researched it for at least 2 years. I wouldn't spray any insecticide inside. I would spray outside and bring in. Wear protectioon always. But I also would no longer use the insecticide in the Bayers 2 in 1 for roses. That systemic is deadly from what I have read. I do not want it in my yard near me or mine.
Thanks for the info, Kell. I only bought the small pill bottle of Avid in case I needed it for my African violets in an emergency, but haven't needed it for that.
I am just a farm girl and I know I use too many chemicals and think nothing of it. I need to change my attitude about that.
I use Bayers Tree and shrub for all outside containers for mealy bugs and I didn't know it was so bad. I have also used Marathon and Bayers' granules for the same purpose.
No trick Kim2 I was laughting @ what Kell said about beans
Kim, LOL! I know plants have put me in the bean house. LOL
Gail, I was referring to Bayer 2 in 1 for roses where the systemic is disulfoton (Di-Syston). It is a systemic miticide.
http://www.bayeradvanced.com/product/2-in-1-Systemic-Rose-Flower-Care/granules.html
Bayer Tree and Shrub has a different systemic insecticide in it. Imidacloprid: 1.47% which does not kill mites.
http://www.bayeradvanced.com/product/Tree-Shrub-Insect-Control/concentrate.html
I think imidacloprid is the generic for Marathon and Merit.
Kell! You're a wealth of great info.! Thanks. LOL about the beannie thing. Yup, I know what you mean by being broke with the love of gardening. Especially gardening with brugs. lol.
Kim
You are smart, Kell!! Thanks for this! I have Marathon granules, too. Is Avid the same Di-Syston that will kill both broadmites and cyclamen mites?
Believe me Kim, as soon as your brug collection grows to ridiculous numbers and the mites take up permanent residency, you soon learn all about the different miticides. I had read that mites are drawn to plants that have been heavily fed thus having huge amounts of new green growth to feast on. In my own mini experiences, this last year I rarely fertilized and I had few mites!! So perhaps there is some truth to that.
Gail, Avid is the trade name for Abamectin. It supposedly is effective against:
European Red Mite
Twospotted Spider Mite
Camine Spider Mite
Southern Red Mite
Spruce Spider Mite
Tarsoneimid Mites3
Cyclamen and
Broad Mites
Eriophyid Mites:
Rust and
Bud Mites
However reports are out there that it has been overused on mites so many mites now consider it a scented bath, not a death sentence.
Here is more than you want to know about Avid.
http://www.syngentaprofessionalproducts.com/pdf/labels/SCP896AL6A0904.pdf
Thank you, Wikipedia Kell!
Thank you Kell for this info...wow.
So when you say you rarely fertilized...did your brugs bloom well?
I have access to tons of leaf mold is that enough?
Thanks Kell. Helpful info. For now they're looking pretty honky dory. And I wish that they remain that way.
Kim
