10 favorite burgmansias

You did a fabulous job Betty!

angle tree baby,
I do remember you speaking of your husbands grandfather building a house here in Cave Creek..
I do feed them all the time and feed bug killer to them too. I hope I get flowers this year. I put the larger plants in the Arizona Room this year because I don't want them to die back. I would like to be able to get a jump start athis year so they flower.
Mickey

'Yall' are incredible! I am so glad I found this site.

I am doing my homework, reading, and trying to decide how to get started. I haven't even planted a Brugmansia yet and I am already addicted....
I ordered one from Plant Delights that will be delivered this week, but in studying here, I can't help but wonder if I ordered the wrong one: a 'Charles Grimaldi'. I paid 20 bucks for it. And I can't wait for it to arrive.
I never dreamed I could grow them from seeds and cuttings. I just can't wait to get started.
I have lots of room. If anyone has some to share and the time to mail, I will gladly reimburse. And I really appreciate all the information.
This is just too much fun!

Welcome Foxy. You are off to a good start, Charles is a good pick for a first Brug, you will love him. I lived in Fort Worth for years and know your area very well. We have a roundup every Spring and Fall and you are invited. There will be lots of Bruges there for the taking. We are a small group but most years we have guest from all across the US.

kenboy

quietyard,
Your area must be warmer than mine. I hope this year to get a few more blooms. I just put most of my brug babies out side.
Mickeyaz

Kenboy - I have never seen brugs before this last fall swap at the DG swap - dmail sent to learn more!

I have to agree wholeheartedly with these managing heat well:
Peanut
Species double white
Day Dreams

One of my best heat~tolerators is also Shredded, which I don't think has been mentioned, but for me does really well. We don't get quite as hot as AZ, but very, very close here in Texas

I've noticed Wiskers and Creamsickle have been mentioned repeatedly. You all are re-interesting me in these two.

Bettydee~is it possible to add a column to your table that includes a tally of how many "votes" a particular brugs keeps getting? There do seem to be a few that are mentioned repeatedly. :0)
-T

T,

I'll see what I can do, but it really wasn't a vote as such. If you'll take a look at the column of where they are grown, you can more or less guess that it was mentioned more than once.

This is great bettydee. I have added this to my notes of stuff - sure are some organizer.

Dee

Here are my 10 favorite brugs......

Br. adeline
Br salmon perfektion
Br.jamie
Br.pink perfektion
Br. tiara
Br.herrenhauser gold
Br. velvet rose
Br.jamie's monkey business
Br.new orleans lady
Br. vixen

Our TXRU is in Arkansas this Spring, but we will host a couple of weekends of plant days/swaps/getting to know one another.

We're about an hour north of Tyler ( the Loop - NOT, LOL!), out in the country, between Gilmer, Big Sandy and Hawkins.

We're about 35 minutes north of I-20, an easy shot for most people in the Metroplex and west of there.

I am thinking the weekends of May 24th and May 31st would be the best. Oh, May 31st is Memorial Day? Yeah, that would be good.

All you Texans be thinking about it and come on out to East Texas! We have a tee-niney little house but really big hearts and love to share!

Here's our list of Brugs this year:

ABADS 2004 Pod #1 (not registered, REALLY fragrant, Mary Haik is hybridizer)
Adeline
Ambrosia
Apricot Smoothie
Autumn Treasure
Axelrose
Butterfly
Canton (Not registered, but out-performs all we have, every year)
Chrissy
Cotton Candy
Creamsickle
Day Dreams
Daybreak
Desiree
Fleming Island Spider
Forestville Double
Georgia Peach
Isabella
Janet Reno
Knightii
Kurpark Bad Salzschlirf
Maya
Milk n Honey
Miss Emily MacKenzie
Mountain Magic
Mountain Treasure
Nairobi Sunset** (Not registered, from xeriscape)
Native Habitat's Double Peach
Naughty Nick
New Orleans Lady
Orange Sunshine
Peaches n Cream
Pink Beauty
Pink Velvet
Rosenquartz
Sam
Serendipity
Solid Gold
Super Nova
Temple Goddess
Tequila Sunrise
Tootsie
Tropical Sunset
versicolor peach
versicolor salmon
versicolor wildform
Whiskers
Wild n Crazy

We have a LOT of other stuff too.

ken, you have me drooling over that list. I have to figure out how to get my DH up there.

Hi I just purchased my first brug (well my second actually - a friend had given me a cutting that I killed!) and am concerned that only one person had it on their top 10 fav list. It's a Snowbank - the lady told me it was a new hybrid but I saw on here pictures of it posted from 03 - so it can't be that new. Anyone have any info or thoughts to share. Thanks! Em.

This thread started as 10 favorite, but by the second post, it quickly became 10 favorites that can handle the heat where we live. Not all Brugs exhibit the same heat tolerance. Because of all the white on the leaves, Snowbank is not as tolerant and may not do as well as many other Brugs. My Snowbank has to live in filtered light as the leaf edges burn even in morning light. I love variegated plants and Snowbank is one of my favorite, but it wouldn't make my list because I have to baby it so.

Thanks Betty! We are in the same zone so I now have an idea of how to treat it. I have a lot of shady - partial shady areas so i will put her there.

Edited to add: Any other suggestions for a newbie? lol thanks :)

This message was edited Apr 7, 2008 10:19 PM

With all that white she doesn't have as much chlorophyll so she's a slow grower, but responds with larger leaves when given regular doses of fertilizer.When you have time, go through some of the old threads. There's a wealth of information hidden in those old threads. Many of our experts are no longer posting, but their threads and posts are still there. You can also search for specific information by using short phrases, specify the Brug forum and go through them. There are two good books on Brugmansias available through a number of sources: Brugmansia and Datura Angel's Trumpets and Thorn Apples by Ulrike and Hans-Gerog Preissel and Engelstrompeten by Monika Gottschalk. It is written in German but comes with an English translation. I bought the latter from Karchesky Canna
http://www.karcheskycanna.com/
and the former from Amazon.com
Both books are worth their weight in gold. Monika used to post a lot a few years back.

This message was edited Apr 8, 2008 2:56 AM

Betty - thanks for the suggestions! Wish me luck - I would love to see this grow and bloom. Em.

Hi Bettydee

Your list is super....all those names and probably not a one, that we can get in Australia.

I'd give up my firstborn for a MEM .I wonder what is comparable to MEM in Austalia?

I'll have to ask Alistair and Chrissy.

I've just ordered seeds from seedsprout but they didn't have any MEM X so was wondering if any other seed company does it? May as well start with the best X available.

Thanks again for this wonderful thread....I'm learning so much about my brugs. I've now added this to my favs .

This may be an old posting but it sure is a good one. Thanks for the work you put into this thread.

Hugs,
Judy

Thanks Judy for bringing this one back. I'm going to copy the lists so i can keep my brug collection growing.

Thanks for your work, Betty! Great lists!
Rox

whats the best way to winter my brugs when i don't have a basement, i don't have a heated garage and i just downsized to a smaller house......... meaning...... i can't find room for all my things let alone 4 tiny , pencil thin . 6 in. tall cuttings that are now in 10 and 15 gal. pots. Do i quit watering them and cut them back some , or what?

I have gotten some brug starts from DG friends but never thought about their tolerance. Can someone(s) tell me some that would be good in the Northeast Oklahoma weather. (Tulsa) I'm not sure offhand what I have, but I know 1 is Isabella. I know we are too cold for them to overwinter outside, but would like to know about the summer heat.

Thanks!
Crit

So from these 12 "favorites" lists that were input here, was wondering what the most popular was.
Assigned a point value, first 10, second 9, etc. This is is the result.
Found out that I definitely need a "Mountain Magic" for my collection.......

45 Mountain Magic
33 Painted Lady
28 Day Dreams
25 Rubirosa
24 Adeline
23 Maya
22 Whiskers
21 Miss Emily MacKenzie
20 Creamsickle
20 New Orleans Lady
20 vixen
18 Golden Lady
18 Isabella
17 Pink Charm
16 Jamie's Monkey Business
15 Chesa
12 Candida Double White
12 jamie
12 tiara
10 Goldfinch
10 Rothkirch
10 Xena
9 Dr. Seuss
9 Jinny Lind
9 Orange Custard
9 Pink Beauty
9 salmon perfektion
9 The Chief
8 Fascination
8 L'amour
8 Margie's Delight
8 Pink Smitty
8 Sam
7 KBS
7 Meadow Princess
7 Mon Amour du Mareiul
7 Peanut
7 pink perfektion
6 Apricot Reise
6 Herrenhauser Garten
6 Taylor Dawn
5 Amber Rose
5 Frosty Pink
5 herrenhauser gold
5 Jean Pasko
5 Sheer Bliss
5 Wretched Mess
4 Cuba
4 Earth Angel
4 Serendipity
4 Sweetheart
4 Tequila Sunrise
4 velvet rose
3 Becca Lynn
3 Dorthea
3 Harlot
3 Whiskers
2 Champagne Fizz
2 Delta Dawn
2 Snowbank
1 Everlasting
1 Luminosa x Charleston
1 Natine Habitat Double Peach
1 Rosamond

WOW .... you really put a lot of work into that. It's a GREAT list to work off of!!!!!!! Now, if I just knew which ones would tolerate our summer weather I'd be all set. :-))

Thanks for the list.

For me it is what will handle the Winter. Mountain Magic will not come back sometimes even in mild Winter but Pink Beauty came back this Spring and is 9ft. and blooming like crazy and we had a really cold Winter. When I posted my list ( I was the first one to list ) I had not had Adeline for very long and would now put her near the top of my list, because she comes back well and is very vigorous. Day Dreams never comes back for me.

I'm sure none of them will survive the winters here and that they will be spending their winters inside.

I only have 3 that made the rankings on ShepMikes list. I only have starts, so don't have a favorite yet. Maybe some of you can give me information on what I have.

Isabella
Dr. Seuss
Naughty Nick
Versi-Orange
Velvet Rose
Super Nova
Phenominal
Katrina Bell
and a pink that has NOID

Thx,
Crit

Kenboy makes a good point about new brugs that he has now since this thread was created. Maybe we start a new thread "10 favorite burgmansias - 2010"? I am very interested on what you experienced collectors think. It would be interesting to compare the new list versus this list. I would be happy to compile the statistics.
Kenboy, you interested in kicking off a new thread?

Can anyone tell me how big the brugs have to get, or how old, when they start to bloom?

Crit, It depends on whether it is a seedling, in which the plant has to form a Y, this usually happens the first year, however sometimes it can take two seasons for a seedling to bloom. If it is from a cutting taken above the Y of the plant which would be the blooming wood, it will probably bloom for you the first season. If the cutting was taken for the trunk wood below the Y it can take a couple season because it has to form that Y again before it can bloom.

I know at least part of what I got was cut above the Y

Patti,
I'm not sure what kind of information you're looking for, but maybe this will help answer some of your questions.

There are seven different species of Brugs, but of those most of us grow hybrids of 4 of those species. These species are: aurea, suaveolens, insignis, and versicolor. There are many differences that help distinguish between them, but for most of us the most important parts are what the flower looks like, how the flower hangs on the plant and the way the hybrid blooms. The flowers range from almost vertical (both upward and downward), horizontal and nodding (position between horizontal and downward verticle). Depending on the genetic background of the hybrid, the calx may cover the entire corolla neck or not. The shape of the flower is either, funnel, tube, trumpet or trumpet-funnel. The link below shows photos that may help with the terms.
http://www.abads.org/abads/Anatomy/
Brugs bloom in flushes then need a rest period of up to 6 - 8 weeks.. The flushes can last several weeks. Again depending on the species and/or species involved in a hybrid, one flush may seem to overlap another because a few flowers will open between flushes. Others have very distinct flushes.

Isabella: She is a hybrid between suaveolens ( http://anthrome.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/solanaceae-brugmansia-suaveolens-angels-trumpet/) and an unknown Brug. Her corolla neck is visible. Her skirt is very full. So full that often they don't open all the way during the day.This is the plant's attempt to reduce water loss. The pink color on Isabella is found on the skirt only. She can produce very large flushes as she can get very large.http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/938489/?hl=Isabella
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/3306/

Dr Seuss: A yellow/gold Brug whose color can vary from yellow to a dark gold depending on time of year. Is called a wild for because it was discovered in Columbia. She is a mix of aurea, suaveolend and versicolor. Old reliable Brug with a strong fragrance. Good long flushes.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/2903/

Naughty Nick - A light to medium orange/pink double. A cross between Creamsickle and Rosamond. This is one of Brenda Delph's hybrids. The second skirt drops down.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/167004/ I've had troubles with this one. Gets buggy.

Versi-Orange - This is a species and not a hybrid. For sheer numbers of flowers, this species beats them all because the buds open almost all at once. The flowers hand straight down. Excellent fragrance. Long corolla neck that shows below the calx. This species has definite flushes with a 6 - 8 week rest period during which it produces buds that grow up to a certain size and stop. When a threshold number of buds is reached, they resume their growth.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/51494/

Velvet Rose - I can't tell you much on this one as I don't have it. It is a cross between Pink Beauty and Ecuador Pink. It is a pink single.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/71675/

Super Nova: A very large white single. Nothing is known about its ancestry, but the flowers hang down so it has the species versicolor in its background. Good fragrance.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/213862/

Phänomenal - A pink cross between an aurea and a versicolor. Skirts slightly separated. Can drop buds but she is gorgeous.

Katrina Bell - Not in the Brugmansia Registry. Did you get this on eBay?

NOID means that there is no identification available for it.

WOW Betty.... Thank you sooOooOOooOoo much for the great information. I have received all of them from DG'ers. Haven't done anything on E-bay. Sounds like I have a good variety of colors. Can't wait until they start to bloom! Just starting in them, and already I am HOOKED!!!!!

Love the discussion on the favourites,
Betty, I have saved the info that you compiled on the selections...excellent idea, so much info for an inexperienced grower.
Even though we may not have the cultivars here, we have their genes....and it's great to know how they stand up in hot and cool weather and what their habits are.
ShepMike.....that list makes great reading...thanks for that.

Like everyone else, I would love to see a current list of favourites now.
It will be interesting to see how many of the ones on this list will be on the new one....I think there will be a few.
Dianne

I've had favorites vary over the years. Since the last 2 years of water restrictions my favorites have changed to MEM and Creamsickle. They not only held up well, but actually performed better than any of the others.

I've noticed that my Creamsickle objected to being watered the way I normally water the most of the other Brugs. It seems to prefer slightly drier conditions. I'll have to watch my MEM.

Novice here..... MEM?

Miss Emily MacKenzie

Crit,

A good source for abbreviations is this link. The link will give you the name of the Brug, abbreviation, the name of the cultivar's parents if know color, etc. The abbreviation follows the cultivar name, but is also more or less alphabetical so the abbreviations are easy to find:
http://ibrugs.com/Brugmansia_Namelist_4-20-10.htm

This ones has almost the same information. It doesn't contain the abbreviations, but the underlined cultivars link you to a photo taken by either the hybridizer or the seedling parent (The person who grew the seed.)
http://www.abads.org/abads/Registry/namelist/

There is a third Brugmansia Registry chart, but you have to be a member to view that one.

Thanks so much bettydee!!!!!