Whats the diffrence ?

Dothan, AL(Zone 8b)

Are there any diffrence in a regular morning glory and a japanese morning glory ?

Clatskanie, OR(Zone 9b)

Yes. The morning glory seeds you see for sale in seed catalogs etc., come from three natural species. Each specie has it's own limitations as to where it grows well. Unfortunately, I. nhil, also known as the Japanese morning glory, is native to very warm climates, like the southern usa. If you grow it much north of the 42nd parallel, you have to start it early inside to get it to start blooming in september. Then it may take another 5 frost free months for the seeds to ripen. I hope this is enough information. Frank

Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

Hi Linda . . .

What do you mean by 'Regular' Morning Glories?
I assume you probably mean Ipomoea purpurea Morning Glories like Grandpa Otts and others. This would be the 3" blooms with heart shaped leaves.
Here are some examples
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/51597/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/69511/

If you are asking if Japanese Morning Glories LARGE-FLOWERING TYPE BLOOMS and American Morning Glories LARGE-FLOWERING TYPE BLOOMS are different. The answer is NO!
I will also add to what Frank said in that Ipomoea nil does NOT mean ‘Japanese Morning Glory’. Ipomoea nil is a particular ‘species’ and is not specifically a ‘Japanese Morning Glory'. In fact, many ‘Japanese Morning Glories’ are Ipomoea purpurea.

The Japanese Morning Glories From Japan have been and still are to a very small extent a ‘Fad’ so to speak. Today, Japan is NOT the only place where Large-Flowering Morning Glories are from or grown. Many are hybridized right here in the USA by myself and many, many other Morning Glory growers.

The fact that the 'only' Beautiful Morning Glories come from Japanese is now pretty much a myth. Today, many of the beautiful MG's now have their ORIGIN in the USA; even though some may have originated in Japan, they are AMERICAN MORNING GLORIES when they have been hybridized in the USA. In fact, if you could view the auction site in Japan similar to eBay, you will see many references to “SEEDS FROM AMERICA”.

Dr. Yoshiaki Yoneda, in Japan, has made many great contributions to Morning Glory hybrids, as has Kyushu University in Japan. I will leave this subject open for others to explain to you.

But, the bottom line answer to your question is
NO

As I mentioned to you some time back that I am more than happy to share with you many of my incredibly beautiful seeds. Let me know if you are interested, and hope this helps.

Also, you are in zone 8b, and will have zero problems growing Ipomoea nil Morning Glories.

Emma

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Linda - Interesting question you asked! I am interested to see what everyone posts as a reply. I am a newbie to MGs too and was wondering the same. Thanks for asking a very good question!

Frank - Thanks for posting the growing zone differences for MGs!

Emma - Interesting reply. I had no idea! I learn something new on this forum every day! :-)

Mesilla Park, NM

You got some very good answers from both Emma and Frank. I also believe the MG originated in South America, then went to China, then Japan. Please correct me if I am wrong here. Anyway, there is so much that we take for granted because of the crosses going on, we automatically think they are from Japan.

Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

Antoinette,

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about the origin of the Japanese Morning Glory. To go further, the Japanese took this WILD MG they received and developed it into all of the gorgeous blooms that we have all seen as Japanese Morning Glories. The Chinese had the very same opportunity to do with the MG what Japan did.

Emma

Dothan, AL(Zone 8b)

Thank you Frank and Emma for the great information . Emma I would love to take you up on your offer. I can send postage or you can take a look at my trade list. I think the Ipomoea purpurea are the one that I like,as they seem not to grow as tall. MG are peaking my interest,the only one I have is a tree MG that I found at a sale.I am in zone 8b right in on the line of Alabama and Florida. So I think they should grow fine here.

thank again
linda

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Anderson, SC(Zone 7b)

So, is this to say that all JMG's don't bloom until Sept?

Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

Linda . . .
You got it.
I will D-Mail you, or you D-Mail me and I will put some nice seeds together for you that you will enjoy 'I promise'!

Yes, I do remember your lovely Ipomoea carnea. That is what we previously communicated about.

SCNewbie . . .
Oh No!
Morning Glories can sometimes bloom within 30-days as some did for me this year, but this is not very often. It does usually take around 60-days from germination until you see blooms, and that is dependant on the type of MG, your climate and the time of year that you are starting your seeds. In my zone 8aTX, I can usually grow at least three crops within my growing year. We sometimes get a little bit of a head start by starting our seeds indoors a few weeks before our last frost to see our blooms earlier in the year. However, I have found that doesn't help 'that' much. At least, not in my zone. I can get mine up and going just about as fast after my last frost than starting them indoors. Reason is they really start taking off more quickly when the temps start to warm up. On the other hand, by starting them ahead of your frost, you can at least get a good root system going to help them take off a bit more quickly when the warmer temps do arrive. So, I continue to start a few indoors each year just to watch 'the race' to see which will start to bloom first. What was started ahead of time and what was started after our last frost.

ALSO, many Morning Glory enthusiasts will continue to grow Morning Glories INSIDE their home with no problem and still enjoy these beauties.

In your zone, you will have plenty of growing time to enjoy Morning Glories.

Emma

Anderson, SC(Zone 7b)

Kewl - thanks! :))

Dothan, AL(Zone 8b)

Does anyone know if the MG tree can foot in just water? I have cut the tips and put some root tone on them but now I am left with some thick limbs and wondering if they wiil root in water like some other plants I know.

(Ronnie), PA(Zone 6b)

I'm doing some hederifolia now and I see a few roots. I know others have rooted some this way too. It's always worth a try!!

Jacksonville, TX(Zone 8a)

Linda,

Your Ipomoea carnea will root VERY easily in water.
Don't put anything on the tips - just make a 'clean cut' and put them in water no more than a couple of inches. The root nodes will start to form roots in a very short time. Keep the water changed and clean until you have a fairly good root system. THEN, put the tip [only-not the roots] in Rooting Harmone and pot it up. You can plant the now rooted cutting a little ways above where you had it rooting.

I always put Fish Emulsion on anything I plant, so this would be helpful. Fish Emulsion will act as a root stimulation as well as feeding that will not burn the plants. Repeat the Fish Emulsion every week for a couple of weeks.

In fact, you should cut your plant back BEFORE your first frost. This is when I usually root my cuttings. Don't cut you plant to the ground. Leave it at least 3' tall. MULCH the base heavily with regular mulch for the winter. Your zone is a bit warmer than mine, but I 'have' lost my plants before which is why I am going to start mulching my plants to see if that will help. We are pretty much at the border-line of the hardiness of Ipomoea carnea. The plant will freeze back, but shouldn't kill the roots with proper protection.

Also, it is always a good idea to start new cuttings each year 'just in case' you do lose your mother plant.

Good luck and let us know how they do.

Emma

Oh, and the cuttings are best if they are at least 12" or more tall. The thicker you can go into the wood the easier you will get rooted cuttings.

Dothan, AL(Zone 8b)

Thanks again Emma . I sent you a D-mail

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