Hoyas: latifolias,new hoyas,addictive personalities -#3

Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

Sara you have created a monster with your addictive personality here!!!! The second half of this thread was becoming a bit long so I hope no one minds me starting the third installment of it!!!!!

I have to admit that I have a bit of an addictive personality as well. I have several different clones of a number of my hoyas::

latifolia IML 88
sp. aff. latifolia IML 1410
sp. aff. latifolia IML 1590

lacunosa
lacunosa "Borneo"
lacunosa "Snowcaps"
lacunosa "Tove"
aff. lacunosa "Giant" IML 1813

nummularioides-drops peduncles
nummularioides -retains peduncles
nummularioides-DK2
nummularioides-yellow corona

australis
australis "Lisa"
australis ssp. oramicola-from Thailand
australis ssp. rupicola-from Thailand

archboldiana-pink form
archboldiana-red form
archboldiana-white form
archboldiana -variegata-from Thailand

heuschkeliana-pink
heuschkeliana-red
heuschkeliana-yellow

imperialis
imperialis mosaic
imperialis "Palawan"

erythrostemma IML 0713-white corolla/red corona
erythrostemma IML 1428- white corolla/white corona
erythrostemma IML 1504- pink corolla/red corona

mindorensis ssp. superba-red flowers/white hairy corona
mindorensis IML 1777
mindorensis (orange clone) from Thailand

pottsii IML 0022-McIiwraith Ra.
pottsii IML 0037-Coen
pottsii IML 0086-P.N.G. USDA 354243
pottsii IML 0353-Cooper's Creek
pottsii IML 0489-Budabadoo

kenejiana-red
kenejiana-yellow
kenejiana-variegata-from Thailand


Okay I think that's it. Now how's that for an addictive personality??

dmichael


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Central, LA(Zone 8b)

Dmichael you win!!! I have one of some of those but not that variety. I can only imagine what your GH aroma is when they start popping blooms out.

They start on my 10 X 12 GH Monday but in the mean time I'm reminding Jim what living with some of my plants are like.

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Central, LA(Zone 8b)

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Central, LA(Zone 8b)

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Overall view of 2 days of hard work.

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dmichael: I love the pottsii family, so put me on a "list" as your first client. :)

S

Long Beach, CA

d-I love your list. I can see we have to do another trade come spring. You are rocking with these varieties.

jeri--I can WELL relate to your dilemma of having so many plants taking up space in the house. We can hardly see out of the windows in the winter. Ha. I love your idea of the swimming pool to put them in. Makes watering a snap, huh.
Marcy

Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Jeri,

You have some very nice plants, and a lot of them. I hope the greenhouse goes together better this time around.

d, put me on the list as well when those plants finally "start paying their way."

Doug

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

David - have you seen your different clones bloom the different colors? I have many of the same in my collection but often the white comes out pink, and the pink orange and the red.... Well, I guess what I am trying to say is that the colors noted in catalogues can be deceptive.... They depend on our own growing conditions...

Carol

SW, WI(Zone 4b)

Wow...you do win!
And I thought I was bad just trying to find room for the new 'unrooted' cuttings, not to mention those rooted (of *different* species)!

You know, I don't believe I've ever even seen an H. pottsii...and I know that if Susan likes them, I will (we're both foliage fanatics!) so I'm off to look them up.

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Long Beach, CA

Nan...I got one of my fav pottsii from Carol. It is IML 18. It has the most beautiful big veined leaves that get maroon in bright light, and grows like gangbusters. I will post a pic. later. I love it.
Marcy

Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

Carol would yo believe I have been growing a few of those pottsii plants for 2 years now and have not seen the first flower on any of them yet!!! I am aware though that growing conditions can and do have an affect on the outcome of the flower color when they do bloom but that doesnt bother me as i'm now starting to love my hoyas more for their foliage than for their flowers which is why I started growing them to begin with.

Nice photos of your plants Jeri. The anthuriums are really pretty but I can kill those faster than you can say D@#$ another one bites the dust!!

But take my advice you better go bigger with that gh. You can never have to big of a gh, I am living proof!!! I started out with my first one a little over 5 years ago to house my cacti collection and it was 12W x 9H x 18L. The cacti are now in a house that is 14W x 10H x 26L and my hoyas are now in a house that is 18W x 12H x 30L and I could use some more space already!!! I am pondering the thought of contacting the dealer I bought the big gh from and seeing what it would cost me to add on 2-3 more sections which would be roughly 8-12 more ft lengthwise. I wish I had of bought the 96L gh kit right from the get go and I wouldn't be having such a space issue right now. Of course if I could get my hoya buying/trading addiction under control I wouldn't be having space issues either!!!



dmichael

Nan: I like pottsii so well because it is one of the main ones that its leaf turns colors, they are glossy, and they are very fast growers. I like my pokey hoyas but I absolutely adore the fast growers.

S

Great Falls, MT(Zone 4a)

Dlambii,

Speaking of addictive personalities...here is the pachyclada that just came in the mail today. "I" didn't have pachyclada, and, "I" didn't order this for myself. I received this from a very good, very ENABLING, friend who does not support the hard work that I have been doing to overcome my addiction!! HeeeHeeeee. However, as she is more addicted than I am, I suppose I can overlook it this time.

David, are those the Thai hoyas that you were trading for? They look pretty super! Congratulations on a successful negotiation.

S

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Whitestone, NY(Zone 7a)

I just got my first pottsii with the past David Liddle order (H. pottsii 'Budabadoo'), and I just LOVE it!! I love the veining and the maroon color. Nan, if you haven't found any pics yet (but I'm sure you have), you can take a look at my leaf pic under the David Liddle thread.

Sara, nice pachy you got there! It happens to be one of my favorites, and even though it looks like a slow grower, it's pretty fast! It's also a constant bloomer for me. Enjoy!

Gabi

Murrells Inlet, SC(Zone 8a)

Sara, these are ones that I bought. The hoyas I was supposed to get in trade have not shown up yet. That is if they were even sent. I was in contact with 2 people in Thailand, one for $$$ one for trade. I think I finally got all of the legal things taken care of for me to go ahead and move forward with getting the others but since it's starting to cool down here already I most likely will wait till spring before I try to get anything from that far away.

dmichael

Great Falls, MT(Zone 4a)

Thanks Gabi, I have seen pictures of your pachyclada, and yours always seems to be blooming.

I am struggling to unravel the Hoya pachyclada / Hoya subquintuplinervis riddle. I purchased subquintuplinervis several years ago, and for the life of me can't tell the two apart. I have leaves on both that look like pictures on leaves that are on both.

Here is a picture of the subquintuplinervis that I got quite a while ago. I bought it from Janice back in 2005 (ebay). I haven't questioned the identity, as she advertised her hoyas as purchased from David Liddle. However it did not come with an IML #.

Can anyone tell if it is supquintuplinervis or pachyclada? The older leaves are quite a bit smaller than the new ones which are measuring as long as 7 inches.

Thanks for any ideas you may have.
S

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Whitestone, NY(Zone 7a)

Sara,
I just love the way you display your plants! Such nice pots and nice trellises, and you put the vines on them so perfectly! I see what you mean about that one looking like pachyclada, but there seem to be some differences. The foliage looks more dark green and shiny than pachyclada foliage. They also look more cupped/rounded. But that's just my opinion. I love that hoya...I think I'll have to add it to my wish list!


So I took some updated pics of some of my hoya tables. After being told by a bunch of you that I had so much unused space (yes, I'm blaming it on you guys :)), I decided to pack in more hoyas on my tables. Needless to say, my girlfriend wasn't the happiest about it, but at least I didn't ADD any tables - right???

So here is a picture of my bedroom hoya table. It's right by my balcony door, so I took this picture from my balcony, instead of from inside the room (like last time) in order to get the "full view":

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Whitestone, NY(Zone 7a)

And here is a close-up of the actual table:

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Whitestone, NY(Zone 7a)

Here's a pic of my living room corner table. I know, there's still plenty of room. I'm also going to hang a plant or 2 above the table when the weather gets a little colder. I'll update with a picture when I do that.

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And a close-up of that table. Thanks for looking guys!

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Macon, IL(Zone 5b)

Gabi - your hoyas (and other plants) look wonderful - nice use of space. And tell your girlfriend you're just contributing to the manufacture of good air!!

Karen

Great Falls, MT(Zone 4a)

Gabi, I think that things are looking great at your place!! I certainly don't think that you are crowding, I would say "clustering". I love when plants are clustered and overlapped...it seems to contribute to a jungle atmosphere. Thank you for the kind compliments on my hoya arranging - it just reinforces my need to add to the whole spiel! Heee. Heee. How are your Liddle cuttings coming along?

I am still just awed by your huge serpens! I love that plant. Mine is about 3 little strands, but it is trying!! I don't think that it will be as big as yours though, even if it were to grow for a hundred years.

Is the table in your bedroom mahogany? I love the red hardwoods in furniture. LOL about Sam not being impressed with your new plants. I am telling you, keep it up, and soon she won't even notice when you add a new one! Ha - I bought a huge cactus this week, it is 9 feet tall (it has been a long time since I was tempted by anything other than a hoya), and is very hard to miss. My sister was visiting, and trying to stir the pot, asked Bryan what he thought of my new cactus. He wandered around the house for a while, but couldn't seem to find it. It is right next to the TV too. HA!!

Here is a closer-up picture of my subquintuplinervis leaves, and then I will show you the close up of the new pachyclada. I really like both, and notice that the pachyclada is much more succulent feeling than my subquintuplinervis. I don't think that is a plant factor, but a watering frequency factor. (I tend to over water, but I am working on that. :)

S



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Great Falls, MT(Zone 4a)

Here is my closer-up picture of the pachyclada. Smaller, rounder, and more succulent. Same? Or different? I am thinking different, but maybe switched around? Ah well, I do know what the experts say about trying to ID with leaves. Ha! But that just won't stop me from guessing.

S

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Whitestone, NY(Zone 7a)

Ha....good idea Karen! Although she's got a man's brain and could care less about air purity!

Sara, at least we're BOTH enabling each other!! I'm reinforcing your need to add nice set-ups, and you're trying to get me to turn my place into a jungle - I think we're even now :P

Can you believe that I *almost* didn't get the serpens when I found it?? I must've been delusion that day. Thank goodness I had some hoyaholics there to snap me out of it. My Liddle cuttings are doing great. Well, all but the waymaniae. It's "sort of" rooted, but not too well. And there is only one leaf left on it. So I had no choice but to order one from Carol - hehe. I'm gonna get into so much trouble when my order from her arrives. But I told Sam that she's retiring (I left out the fact that it's not a "complete" retirement, but what she doesn't know won't hurt her!). How are your Liddle cuttings doing?

Yes, that's a mahogany table. I love the dark red woods too. All my furniture is that color. And the color compliments the hoyas well!! Too funny about Bryan not seeing the 9 foot cactus!! I guess he's too distracted by the TV - keep that in mind, and the next time you bring a hoya into the house, do it while he's watching TV!

Your pachyclada and subquintuplinervis do look VERY similar. Your pachyclada actually looks nothing like mine - it's much more shiney and the stems are less woody. I'm sure someone here will have a better idea of whether they are the same or not. Either way, those are 2 GORGEOUS plants!

Gabi

I'm enjoying this series of threads so much that I was inspired to join. I'm really enjoying seeing all of your hoya collections and how you have them displayed. My hoya displays are in a state of "work in progress" right now because we're listing our house for sale in the spring and are doing some renovations. I'm getting nicer display shelving for most of them early in the new year. I think I qualify as an addictive personality in that I normally buy a hoya simply because I don't have it.

This first picture is of the stand in our bedroom. Its the first thing I see when I get out of bed. The stand was made by my father 20 years ago.

Christine

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This group of hoyas is in the spare bedroom. This is just to the right of a north-west facing window. I've already moved one of these shelves because it didn't get enough light.

C.

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This is the grouping that I have in the kitchen. I have moved the shelf for the picture, but again, its normally located to the right of a north-west facing window and gets good late-day sun.

C.

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This display is in my living room, to the right of a sliding glass door that has no window covering. The sun just streams in there in the early morning. The bottom shelves are all new hoyas this year. The top shelf has a few new ones too, ones that have had some major growth already.

C.

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Chowchilla, CA(Zone 10a)

Beautiful, Christine!!! What healthy looking plants.
Ann

This is the other corner in my living room, the shelf is sitting right in the window and it gets some brutally hot sun until early afternoon. So on the bottom, hotest shelf, I have a few copiously growing eriostemmas right in the front of the window and they provide dappled sunlight to the some of rest that don't need sun that strong. My only blooming hoyas right now are on that stand - Multiflora, heuscheliana. On the bottom shelf is my final nursery of cuttings for the year

The change I made last night was to take the shelf of hoyas on the left in picture 2 and move it the the left of the shelf in the final picture. There's far more light for it there and dappled sunlight, and allows the other shelf in picture 2 to get more light due to its absence.

Well, that's my little obsession and we all know how a little obsession like collecting hoyas can control our lives. The past year I've spent working on the house has been one of the best excuses I've ever had for not leaving home for more than two or three days. No dryed out hoyas at all, and they're all so happy and growing. I even have an umbel of flowers on one of the new ones I got this past summer-crossing my fingers for it not to blast.

My most recent count is 121 hoyas, 1 dischidia, 1 Norfolk Island pine and 1 pony tail palm, and a few others that I have to bring in from outside for the winter. I had way more "other" tropicals until fairly recently, but they were taking up precious hoya space and simply had to find new homes.

Hoya nuts unite!!

Christine

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Thanks Ann. My life will never been the same ... but that's a good thing!

C.

Jerusalem, Israel

Gabi and Christine - very nice display and beautiful healthy hoyas!
Christine ,I love the spiral 'trellis'.

Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Christine,

Stunning plants; they look very healthy. I envy your large windows that let in all that wonderful light. I love your stands as well.

Doug

Central, LA(Zone 8b)

Christine, I enjoyed seeing how you display your plants. Thanks so much for sharing. 121 Hoyas!!! You are indeed biten by that hoya bug!!! LOL!!!

Jeri

Long Beach, CA

Those are some awesome plant stands. Where did you get them?
You are doing a great job of hoya displaying. I always like the idea of surrounding myself with plants where possible. I think we all need huge sky lights in our ceilings so we have more choices besides windows. Ha.
Marcy

Macon, IL(Zone 5b)

Christine - beautiful plants, and I, too, love the spiral trellis'!! Oh, and I had a good laugh at the "Soup Nutsy" bag!! Thanks for sharing!!

Jeri - I love the swimming pool idea in your picture!! Good "temporary place" until you get that greenhouse finished!!


Karen

Thanks all. I got the wooden stands at Ikea-$25. The wire stand is a mini greenhouse that didn't work out for me, so I put it to a better use. The metal spirals are from Lee Valley, and I'm not so enamoured with them anymore-they make the plant very top heavy, so they need a really heavy base, or to be attached vertically to something. The others that look like spirals are a little better because they're a lighter plastic, but I much prefer the bamboo hoops now and am slowly switching most of them over.

Karen, the Soup Nutsy bag is a not just for comic relief, although it does do a good job as a conversation piece! The Soup Nutsy (its in the building I work in) gives one of those bags with each soup order. Consequently, each plant area inside and outside of my house has one of the bags now to collect leaves and spent blooms, etc., until they get full, and then get put in with regular garden waste.

Christine

Chowchilla, CA(Zone 10a)

Check out what I scored from David. I was on the telephone with him and he was in a HD buying stuff for his greenhouse, he walked over to the houseplants section and said that he was looking at an 8-inch EA basket of H. nummularoides. He also said that it was too bad he already had a couple of these or he'd buy this one too. The crazed addict that I am spontaneously squealed for him to buy it and send it to me. He did, and here is my very own 8-inch basket of H. nummularoides - straight from the great state of South Carolina. Thanks David!!!
Ann

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Great Falls, MT(Zone 4a)

Ooooo Ann, that is a delightful plant!!

Does it have any peduncles on it? My nummalroides is also an EA basket. It is huge and healthy, but no peduncles yet. I bought it in Twin Falls, on our way to a family reunion in reno. Since I got it on the firs day of driving, it hung in our van, and in the hotel for about 6 days. It was loaded with scale, so while Bryan and the kids would watch TV at night, I would spend about an hour picking scale off of every branch! Heeee Heeee! Bryan thought it was pretty disgusting, but hey, it is clean now.

It is probably lucky for you that David already has three of them, or you might have had to go to S.C., and pry it out of his greedy hoya hands!! Just kidding D.Lam. - we know how generous you truly are.

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