This Ipomoea start flower here now, in the cold autumn, but I also start this MG late in the season from seeds.
The leaf looks like the seeds on Ipomoea nil, but what flower I have never seen such before. And they are very small and they not open up!!!???
What can it be wonder Sylvia
Ah one of my favourites... http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/1317/
I'm just dry seeds for this fella ready to grow next year.
I grew Spanish Flag for the first time this year and WOW! Loved it! I have yet to see any seeds on it though and it is still producing those amazing blooms! Does it produce some kind of seed pods?
Ipomoea lobata Spanish Flag, I dont think mư one is lobata. There are only very small small tiny red blooms, I dont have had any seed to lobata and I cant remember that I had got any neither. So I think it must be another kind
Sylvia - The flowers you posted here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/hobbyodlaren_1191923239_979.jpg
are Ipomoea lobata often marketed by the outdated synonym of Mina lobata...
If you didn't order any of the plant >you have it now...
The seedpods look similar to Ipomoea hederifolia...
TTY,...
Ron
Ron - I planted some seeds for Ipomoea Lobata this past Spring and they have been growing and blooming for 5 months! The blooms are absolutely stunning! This is one of my favorite vines growing on the back fence along with the Moonvine.
I have not seen a single seed pod form. Does it produce seeds later in the season before it dies back?
I was hoping to collect seeds from it so that I could grow it again in the Spring. I want to grow more along the fence because it is so pretty!
There should be seedpods forming near the base of the main stalk that holds the flowers...
Post a closeup photo of the base of the stalk where the earliest flowers formed...
TTY,...
Ron
I'll try to get a photo tomorrow. :-)
I think there are two types of this flower in two different colors, I also had one that did not have the yellowing at the end. Maybe you have that strain.
A.
I have heard of one that is all yellow but thought it was urban myth!
I grow this one every year. I spent an hour sorting seed yesterday afternoon.
The flowers in the photo above look very young, maybe they will change in a day or two.
I like the name Mina as Ipomoea makes everyone think of mg type flowers, so allways argue that it isnt that! lol
Mike - You mentioned
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I like the name Mina as Ipomoea makes everyone think of mg type flowers, so allways argue that it isnt that!"
Do you mean that you tell people that Ipomoea lobata isn't(!) properly an Ipomoea and should be properly referred to by the outdated synonym of Mina(?!)...
Ron
Haha.. I wouldn't dare Ron Just with "certain" people it helps avoid confusion.. its a little like i drop the word "red" from the pest red spider mite as most people in england think of another insect. (not sure if that example translates) .
So i just prefer it but it really depends who i am talking too. Someone that doesn't even know which way up a plant goes i may use it!
Am i protesting my innocence too much??? lol
Mike - Explanation 'reluctantly accepted' but 'careful' as you know you're treading on 'thin botanical ice'...(!)...
Mitigating factor on your behalf is the following current classification info...
Perhaps the fact that the term Mina does still legitimately apply to Ipomoea lobata as the section subtaxa demonstrated as follows:
genus: Ipomoea
subgenus: Quamoclit
section: Mina
TTY,...
Ron
Yeah, no need to come over all educated.. i only like the name! heheh
Ron - I tried to find the base of this vine to no avail. Most of the vines are pretty much done for this season in that area of the garden bed. All I could get was a photo of the flowers. Not a single seed pod that I can see anywhere on this vine. I am going to have to beg for more seeds on the seed trading forum. :-/
This message was edited Oct 12, 2007 6:21 PM
Becky - I asked you to look at the base of the stalks that held the flowers...not necessarilly the base of the entire vine...although the first stalks to flower would usually be located on a lower portion of the vine...
The photo you posted of the stalks shows that the first flowers to bloom on those stalks have completely dropped the calyxs from the lower stalk and I do not see seedpods forming where they would if they were going to...the whole of 'why' they are not forming is another conjectural story...
You are in Florida so the temperatures shouldn't be the cause of no seeds...
Ordinarily I'd recommend hand pollination but I know you have already declared that you are not ready for that yet...you are putting off the inevitable(!) and the sooner(!) you learn the basics and start(!) practicing(!) the sooner you'll be enjoying seeing seeds that you'd like to see develop and ripen...
TTY,...
Ron
My plants produce seed but only about half the flowers ever produce seed. Some have 3 or more seed in the pod some only 1 odd!
Anyway off to kill some plants in the garden!
Ron - Actually, I have been trying to hand pollinate many of my MGs this past week and will continue to do so. I've been using a fine point paint brush and will see if what I am doing is helping. I particularly want seeds from the Yaguruma Blizzard vine, but also from this Spanish Flag. The blooms on this vine are so different. I'm going to have to really look at them to figure out my technique for hand pollinating them.
I have Moonvine, purple Hyacinth Bean vine, and Cardinal Climber all growing together with the Spanish Flag vine. All of them are producing seeds except the Spanish Flag vine. I can't help but wonder why it is the only seedless one. :-/
If it helps my hyacith bean doesnt do well! So i have the problem the other way round!
I grew this during the 2006 season. It grew into a very large plant, covered with flowers and not one seed pod produced.
Arlan
Becky - If you look at the photo you posted,in the middle there is an off-white mature bloom with the pistil help up above the rest of the repro parts...the stigma looks good but the anther looks on the brownish side which isn't a good sign...these type of flowers will not ordinarilly self-pollinate due to the stigma being held so much higher than the anthers...
The Ipomoea lobata species is from Central America where the hummingbirds there do the pollinating as the pollen attaches to their snouts...
You will have to locate good pollen and place it onto those lofty stigma's if you want seed...
TTY,...
Ron
