New lily virus please help, contagious to humans

Port Orchard, WA


It started in the olympic mountains midsummer while 4x4ing. Myself and my fiance spotted some orange spotted flowers on stalks along some of the roads. Ever since I have been semi obsessed with lilies. Are these things from another planet? Ever since I caught the bug I want to learn, propagate, and grow as many as I can, it doesnt seem natural for a guy like me! slaves I tell ya slaves,thats what we are. Its the way they work. Infect you with a virus multiply carefree and take over the world. would it be so bad? I think not.

The lillies that got me started were lillium columbianus, columbia lily and then Fritilaria lanceolota, rice lily (spelling oops).
This site has been a valuable resource for information on the germination on these species but I guess the best test of that will be in the spring I have five of the rice lily bulbs and five of the columbia lily bulbs both of which are rooting nicely in there new homes. I had to dig two up just to check after reading about funguses and the dificulty of transplanting native bulbs. I only took five of each bulb especially the rice lily because of there rarity in the wild. I was careful in the escavation of the bulbs keeping them surrounded by the soil they grew in and planting them in prepared beds with soil from there locale. I also collected about two thousand seeds from the columbia lily. I have planted about 300 seeds in different ways i have read about including hulla ho-ing areas at my work at the edge of the woods in well draining soils and scattering the seed then lightly brushing over the soil to set them about a half inch deep, scattering seeds in a planter where I could keep a closer eye on them, and in shoe box sized plastic bins drilled out on the bottom and filled with miracle grow cactus mix soil. As I learn more I will plant the other seeds to or maybe trade for other varieties.

One of the most important things I have learned so far about the germination of these seeds is that the western american native lillies are better classified as having immediate Hypogeal germination. Only one site I went to had the correct information on the germination of western natives. Basiclly it means the root and shoot growth happen at the same temperature after 8 weeks 45-55 degrees, unlike true hypogeal germination as in martigons and orientals in which bulb formation comes first in the warm period then a cold period is required to start shoot growth.

looking forward to learning and sharing more of what I learn.
Jason

Port Orchard, WA

one of the lilies that got me sick.

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Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Oh ~ you mean that kind of lily / human virus. The kind that once you're infected, you actually have the desire to infect others? Welcome to our world! And welcome to DG. ;)

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Port Orchard, WA

a second lily that finished me off.

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Louisville, KY

I would think that 4x4ing is not good for native lilies or any other wild flower.

Southern, WI(Zone 5a)

Welcome, micro.
This is only the beginning of the virus that has no cure, as of yet. Please, if I am wrong about the cure, fill me in on it ;)

I do believe if you fall to blindness and have no sense of smell, you may have hope at the cure. But those are two things I am not willing to give up just yet, so let this virus go where it may. And have a lot of fun being so sick. Lol!

Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

I too was sucked in by your luring thread heading. LOL
Welcome to the forum! And welcome to the plant world! You may just find that lilies and fritillarias are just the tip of the iceberg. Beware.

Good luck with the lily seeds. Perhaps then, with your potential seedlings grown up, your first plan will be to replace those you dug. I am not sure if that was such a good idea, digging in the wild when they are rare in your area. Maybe if you knew the owners of that land, that would make me feel a better.

At any rate, there are so many different kinds of lilies, just peruse this forum, and the links it takes you to. You think your hooked now? Just you wait! They are beauties, one and all.

Agawam, MA(Zone 6a)

I caught your disease about 12 years ago and it only greats worse. Wait!!!! I'm glad I found Dave's Garden. In last couple of months I've learned so much from these wonderful people, on this forum. I even joined The National Lily Society per their suggestion and have learned even more.

Port Orchard, WA

Glad to see I am not the only one with this disease lol.
Ya, 4x4ing and lillies dont mix to well in some cases but the lilies are safe from my truck. Digging up them wild bulbs probably wasnt a good thing either normally but I do plan on replanting some in the wild, just not where I got them from. The trees in the area are marked for logging so I plan to replant some areas where they grew before but were also destroyed by logging. One of the biggest problems in my area for the rice lily is progress.
Jason

(Jan) So Milw, WI(Zone 5b)



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Lisbon, IA(Zone 5a)

Jan, is that yours? and if so, do you haul that thing in every winter?? (it makes me hurt just thinking about trying to move it. :) )

Diann

(Jan) So Milw, WI(Zone 5b)









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Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

Asiatics, species, Orientals, Trumpets, Orienpets, LAs, LOs, etc etc--this is an illness with lifetime consequences! Dots & Dashes

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Dayton, KY(Zone 6a)

I agree with Wanda, the most wonderful thing about lilies is there are so many colors, shapes, sizes to explore that you can never grow tired of them. This is my newest - Lilium species hybrid 'Madam Butterfly' (PAF).

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Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

Madame Butterfly bloomed for me this summer too. Fascinating specimen!

Elodie is a double asiatic that won "Best Asiatic Lily" at the Iowa Lily Society Show in June for me. Tall, strong & blooms that don't quit. (My winning stalk had spent 3 days in the rain & sun before I took it to the show!)

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Strasburg, VA(Zone 6b)

hmmm, i think i needed to have a lily-booster shot along with my flu shot this morning....i just can't wait for new lilies coming and daylilies settling in to bloom next year....i'm glad buggy crazy's site isn't working for me....keeps saying busy although i got a couple of things from her & some from b&d and some from the lily garden :-)

Crosbyton, TX(Zone 7a)

OMG....this is so funny; i have just recently purchased lilies....never have grown them....WELL, i wanted to read everything about lilies so i came to this forum and would read every thread but this one....i thought....oh no...i don't want to know anything about a stupid virus that can make humans sick...it will never happen to me.....so i am not going to read that thread....; so i have been passing over the thread like i pass over the hosta hvx virus(which is truly a virus that will kill hostas...); but i refused to read about the lily virus that could make humans ill till tonight....so i thought, well i am going to read about the stupid virus ......; like i need something else to make me sick....i have lupus, chronic fatique syndrome et al; ....

OKAY SO I FINALLY GET IT....i think i already got the virus...but it is sort of a good virus....i really thought that there was a virus i could get that would make me physically ill....but it only makes me MENTALLY ill....and i have it!!!!! you are silly kids:)

Dayton, KY(Zone 6a)

Wanda - Elodie looks fantastic. I just added ANOTHER to my "want" list. ☺ I have never tried showing lilies - did try daylilies for the first time this year and got a few ribbons (grin).

Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

I'm not a competitor--don't like that kind of thing, but... I took the Lily Judging School this summer and one of the requirements is to grow lilies (EASY!) and enter them into a show--not so easy. It was my first time, so I just went out and grabbed 9 nice stems that were just opening. I HATE cutting my lilies, so this was a big deal for me!

I packed the stems into vases seperated by bubblewrap to make the 2 hour trip to the Iowa Regional Lily Society show in Des Moines : http://www.irls.org/

Two of my lily stems had broken petals by the time I arrived. I REFUSE to glue petals back on (allowable per judges rules book!!!) I cleaned them up , best I could and set them out for display. I know most people don't like the lily doubles, but I wanted to show my friends how cool & tough Elodie was. Imagine my surprise when the head judge went crazy over my stem!!!

I was a "clerk" for the judges at the show and learned alot more about judging. We then had a mini-show where we had to classify & identify lilies pulled out of the show. And judge them. TOUGH TEST! I still don't have my results back.... Am I a student judge, or not?

Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

Kinda nice to know some of what goes on before I do my stint at learnin' judging. Thanks Wanda! For the time being, our Society's semi-plans for classes fell through.

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